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I'm more interested in getting a look at potential marsh terrain.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm more interested in getting a look at potential marsh terrain.

I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but it would be really nice to have rules for water terrain in Warhammer. Sucks big time that we haven't had them because 'ewww we don't make a miniature for that' GW policies, despite them being on boards everywhere since ever.


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 Overread wrote:

Carlovonsexron wrote:
I'm hoping that with Hashut coming out to play that there will be a bigger lean on actual minor gods of chaos.

Because honestly Chaos has always seemed far too orderly with every thing divided so neatly between the big 4.

Far as AoS lore is right now there are 5 Chaos Gods

Khorne, Nurgle, Tzeentch, Slaanesh and the Great Horned Rat


Of them the first four are native to the Realm of Chaos, with their realms being full of demons who are all facets of the greater whole of the Patron god. Meanwhile when they interact with the Mortal Realms its mostly though Greater and Exalted Greater demons influencing the peoples. So the minor gods appear there, basically as lies from the Four core chaos gods.

The last group is not native to the Chaos Realm, but kind of bought his way in at the end of the Old World. The Great Horned Rat also differs in that his worshippers don't go to Chaos when they die; instead their souls go down to the Realm of the Dead and a regular normal (if skaven style) underlife/world. Not that this is one of the few that resists the invasions and attempts by Nagash, to take them over.

It depends on how much we can rely on content from a single novel which exists outside of the battletomes & campaign books to be canon. If we go by that then the Skaven underworld (Ruin) is canon, a continual warzone between Nagash and the GHR to claim what are no doubt the crappy fast-food equivalent in souls .

Such an assumption would also make Zuvassin canon via the Shadespire novel, which along with Hashut would bring the total to 7.

 DaveC wrote:

zamerion wrote:
The GW newsletter said that they are from Nurgle, and a new expansion, not edition :(

Nurgle's servants wade into the Realm of Beasts in the next big Warcry expansion. Get a first look at these marsh-dwelling marauders.

Good I'll take a Red Harvest style box rather than a second edition, the game needs a few fixes but not a new edition. The Rotmire Creed will probably end up in Maggotkin?

Agreed, for the most part the Warcry rules feel like the best ruleset GW has developed since this millennia (I'm skipping BB2016 and second season since they are so similar to the original). The core rules of Warcry are quick to learn, easy to teach, and fun while also allowing for a fair bit of tactical depth. Unlike 40k/AoS/Kill Team/Etc. I don't really feel like there are a lot of glaring issues with the rules that need major revisions. I also appreciate that all the Warcry expansions feel like expansions - things you can pick up to add to your game or play it in a different way - not things you have to pick up to keep playing with what you currently have.

I'm really liking the Horns and this Marsh Dweller - really excited for this new set.

For me it's a poor bloke hunting spiders in the sump deep in the Underhive.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm more interested in getting a look at potential marsh terrain.

IIRC it was you who asked, how many people are going to use the ash waste terrain for the sumps. Well, I guess I will. And those spider cultists from Warcry are another source of denizens.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm more interested in getting a look at potential marsh terrain.

I have some swamp Nurglers for AoS, so both the warband and eventual terrain would be welcome!

I feel a little more confident that this is part of the terrain for the new WarCry set.

By a twist of fate Archon is doing "Swamps of Doom" as part of its Dungeons&Lasers 4 crowdfunder in the very near future. GW's will probably be out faster, but at several times the cost.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Spoiler:

I feel a little more confident that this is part of the terrain for the new WarCry set.

Hard to think of a better guess at this point

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm more interested in getting a look at potential marsh terrain.

ooohhhhh good call!

I missed this yesterday but the 4 Harrowdeep Warbands are getting Warcry cards in White Dwarf 477

I'm pretty happy about that, I really like how good they have been about getting Warcry rules for new/extra stuff out there.

Warcry Heart of Ghur

Fun! I might get this one - the nurgle boys look like they will only need a little modeling putty and a craft knife/file to get rid of any pustules or open wounds.

Nice table. Not sure if 160€+ nice.

This whole box is sexy as hell.

I find both Warbands a bit lame but the scenery is excellent.

I think the box is pretty nice with a high ratio of things that won't take any conversions to make them aesthetically pleasing enough to hit my table. Whereas Red Harvest only had like 4 miniatures that looked good.

On the other hand, while the scenery is very cool, it is pretty insubstantial, with dozens of the little short walls/barricades that are barely knee high and only a few larger walkways and platforms.

Red Harvest had much more substantial terrain. The terrain in this box feels a bit disconnected as well with a clear divide between the bone elements and the stone elements. With none of the stone ruins appearing on any of the platform pieces (that we can see), and no skeletons on the pieces with carved stones.

I might still get it, as the walkways are pretty unique, but I usually get tempted by other stuff or Kickstarters before I can save up the money for a GW big box that will surely cost nearly $200 USD.

I'll buy 1 box, the terrain isn't as nice as the Red Harvest terrain which prompted me to buy 3 copies of that box. I think I'm fine waiting for the individual terrain release in 3-6 months time and picking up a couple extra pieces then.

The weapon design on both teams is pretty ugly, although I do like the swamp leader and the swamp guy with the net.

Warcry could do with moving on from Chaos warbands, especially when they dominated the last edition, and now in the land of Ghur. Not keen on Nurgle but would have overlooked them at least pitted against Sylvaneth. If not, a destruction-allied warband would also have been ideal.

The terrain is quite nice.

The roll out of faction rules for Kill Team gives me little confidence going into the new edition of Warcry. This is the one area that will either seal or break the deal...

Got to admit that it would be nice to see more non chaos warbands. They started with Daughters of Khaine, but seem to have gone back to Chaos. What's really odd is that they've still not updated the marauders which basically are what all of the chaos warbands end up being various flavours of.

SO EXCITED!! That trailer was fething awesome, and Nurgle mortals! Bamboo! BAMBOO! WantwantwantwantWANT!

Did anyone watch the show.
Who did they say the name of the thing the Nurgle people worship was?

Excited for a new edition of warcry, But underwhelmed by that box, especially compared to the previous starter sets.
I'm not seeing what others clearly are with the terrain, As to me it looks like aquarium scenery. I do like that we've got a setting with trees! actual goodness trees! But I'll probably just use a few Awakened Wyldwood sets to make a proper forest.
What i'd really love is for those wonderful new underworlds witchunters to get some warcry rules!

Danny76 wrote:
Did anyone watch the show.
Who did they say the name of the thing the Nurgle people worship was?

The Great Leech!

Yes that was it!

So they worship that. Not knowing it’s actually Nurgle I guess.
Maybe why they aren’t as fully ‘Nurglified’ as some normally are when we get new stuff for his followers.

Danny76 wrote:
Yes that was it!

So they worship that. Not knowing it’s actually Nurgle I guess.
Maybe why they aren’t as fully ‘Nurglified’ as some normally are when we get new stuff for his followers.

Basically all of the Warcry Warbands worship their own gods. These gods are basically concepts that the tribes and cities understand at a general unified level. However each worshipper or cult/group leader might well be worshipping a different Chaos Greater Demon.

This Demon "might" be a Great Unclean One, but it could also be a Lord of Change or a Bloodthirster or a Keeper of Secrets.

Yes their factions natural identity would be Nurgle, however there's nothing to stop the others focusing on other aspects and stealing them as worshippers. I think that the War Queen novella shows this well - though that tribe were aware of the different Chaos Gods by name.

In the case of most of the Warcy Warbands they don't know of the Great Four.

 Overread wrote:

Danny76 wrote:
This Demon "might" be a Great Unclean One, but it could also be a Lord of Change or a Bloodthirster or a Keeper of Secrets.

Leeches drink BLOOD. Khorne confirmed!

Yay! New edition and time to repurchase stuff!

Warcry is the only GW stuff that entices me as I really like the low fantasy/sword and sorcery design of a lot of the factions (the crow and snake ones are my favorite) and the bronze bull look on the first faction is pretty awesome for that. Will likely pick this box up as I like the terrain and the other faction as well.