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Hi, i've been thinking, Khaine isn't dead right? only scattered, so my question if all the shards of Khaine were collected and assembled, would the Eldar effectively never lose as long as he's on the battlefield?

No khaine was killed by slaneesh and his essence was scattered to the craftworlds and put in to the avatar statues that rested there.So no if they were all brought together it would be scary but khaine wouldn't come back.

i remember it specifically said in the eldar codex that slaneesh couldn't kill Khaine, he was too weakened by the fight to kill him

Black Dragon Ninja wrote:i remember it specifically said in the eldar codex that slaneesh couldn't kill Khaine, he was too weakened by the fight to kill him

In the murkyblack future of Fantasy in Space 40k- you could probably expect just about anything.

From a realistic standpoint (heh...for a fictional game of course)...if would be nigh impossible to reassemble Khaine. All his essense must probably be gathered into one place, and I am sure high arcana or technological rituals will have to be enacted. Once done, it would probably take a long time to merge all of it together and then when finishe, forged a new body for the god to inhabit.

Short version...no.

It was technically a draw. Khaine actually successeded in preventing Slaanesh from physically manifesting. Khaine is banished from the warp and requires a physical body/ies, Slaanesh cannot escape the warp.

Khaine is fine as is. Isha is the one they need to rebuild, and she was more important anyway. Her essence remains in her shrines, whatever that means.

Between Isha, Khaine, the Laughing God and Ynnead the Eldar could have the working core of a pantheon again.

Hmm, that's fair, cuz if the Eldar could res Khaine they'd be doing it wouldn't they? Althougth just the idea
Of all the Edar dying just to beat Slaneesh seems a bit.... Much, I was thinking Khiane + Ynnead = Slaneesh gone with out all the Eldar race dead.

Actually the main reason that they don't try, at least IIRC, is because Khaine was tainted somehow in his fight with the nightbringer.

I think the biggest challenge is power. It probably takes alot of energy to bring a god back together, even if you do bring all the pieces back together.


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Wait, how does the Nightbringer come into this?

Khaine fought the Nightbringer and was injured. Since the essance of the Nightbringer entered Khaine, he became tainted. Also because of this Eldar have Dark Reapers IIRC.

Orlanth wrote:It was technically a draw. Khaine actually successeded in preventing Slaanesh from physically manifesting. Khaine is banished from the warp and requires a physical body/ies, Slaanesh cannot escape the warp.

Khaine is fine as is. Isha is the one they need to rebuild, and she was more important anyway. Her essence remains in her shrines, whatever that means.

Between Isha, Khaine, the Laughing God and Ynnead the Eldar could have the working core of a pantheon again.

I thought Isha was being held captive by Nurgle (who had wrestled her away from Slaanesh), and she's being used to test many of his diseases before he sends them to the mortal realm.

At least, that's how I remember it from the Chaos Daemons codex.

edit: Nevermind, found my copy. It's a legend from one craftworld that states this.

alright, because i was planning on making a Craftworld. The Fluff being they're going around collecting the shards of Khaine in order to resurrect him, because they wish the Eldar race to survive the victory over Slaanesh (rather than all the Eldar dying to bring Ynnead to life). The idea was that Khaine Nearly beat Slaanesh, so if they could resurrect him and not need all the deaths of the Eldar to resurrect Ynnead then it would be enough to destroy Slaanesh.

However, your quite right about the difficult of the task

Black Dragon Ninja wrote:alright, because i was planning on making a Craftworld. The Fluff being they're going around collecting the shards of Khaine in order to resurrect him, because they wish the Eldar race to survive the victory over Slaanesh (rather than all the Eldar dying to bring Ynnead to life). The idea was that Khaine Nearly beat Slaanesh, so if they could resurrect him and not need all the deaths of the Eldar to resurrect Ynnead then it would be enough to destroy Slaanesh.

However, your quite right about the difficult of the task

There's no reason why there might not be a craftworld attempting to do something along those lines. After all, each craftworld is different. And just as only one craftworld believes that Isha is now a prisoner of Nurgle, it's entirely possible that there's exactly one craftworld that believes combining all of the fragments of Kaela Mensha Khaine would be a good idea.

Of course, how that craftworld would go about doing such a thing is a bit tricky, since active craftworlds would probably be unlikely to just hand over their Avatars...

It could be possible that the Eldar of a craftworld are trying to look for allies to fight Nurgle. Hell there is the Bloody Hands Chapter that allied the Eldar for a while and followed their orders and turned their back on the Imperium.

well, the idea was for the fragments for active craftworlds it would join up with my craftworld as a fleet so it wouldn't lose the fragment or give the pieces last after all the others are found. The idea is not only to destroy Slaanesh, but rather all the major threats to the Eldar: Chaos, Necrons, Orks, Tyranids and any Immperium force that is threatening the wellbeing of the Eldar.

the idea is that the Craftworld assists anyone whose fighting these forces (sometimes even helping one of then foes in order to inflict heavy damage to another, but just like Biel Tan to quickly turn of them and leave both foes crushed )

I was thinking an Avatar with the full blown power of Khaine at the forefront of the Craftworld totally annihilating the enemy forces (being a absolutely pro war god)

Asherian Command wrote:It could be possible that the Eldar of a craftworld are trying to look for allies to fight Nurgle. Hell there is the Bloody Hands Chapter that allied the Eldar for a while and followed their orders and turned their back on the Imperium.

were is this from? I'm preparing to facepalm if you say its from a C.S. Goto book.

in the codex on the guadians page (pg 39) there is an extract saying Ynnead will be awakened when all the eldar die, it sucks but that's what is written


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oh, nevermind what i said then.... i didn't see the quote lol

Black Dragon Ninja wrote:well, the idea was for the fragments for active craftworlds it would join up with my craftworld as a fleet so it wouldn't lose the fragment or give the pieces last after all the others are found. The idea is not only to destroy Slaanesh, but rather all the major threats to the Eldar: Chaos, Necrons, Orks, Tyranids and any Immperium force that is threatening the wellbeing of the Eldar.

the idea is that the Craftworld assists anyone whose fighting these forces (sometimes even helping one of then foes in order to inflict heavy damage to another, but just like Biel Tan to quickly turn of them and leave both foes crushed )

I was thinking an Avatar with the full blown power of Khaine at the forefront of the Craftworld totally annihilating the enemy forces (being a absolutely pro war god)

Also you could use this as a great excuse for mixed colour schemes. Biel-Tan Are trying to rebuild the Eldar empire so sending their avatar and a fleet to help this craftworld you are thinking up would be doable.

hmm, true that, but was thinking a craftworld by itself, no real intermixes of other craftworlds (bar the ones that join the fleet and the ones that move to the craftworld), but it's a good idea