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Straight from Warseer, it looks like someone at GW screwed up while updating the site, giving us a look at the new Stormraven.

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I'm disappointed.

we all said it was going too look like a box. But the models here at dakka dakka look so much better.

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If this is really it, then its okay. I have seen worse, but I have seen far better conversions as well.

Figured better post this in case they try to yank it -



Gotta say, I am not sure if it is a kit-bash or not. A good one mind you, but certain parts still look all too familiar. Pretty cool, but not as cool as it could have been if it is the real deal. It look a hell of a lot like the conversions done by hobbyists, almost like they copied the conversions for the design lol.

Yea.... considering that was the main reason I was excited for Blood Angels, I'm Kinda not feeling it... Looks like they took two valk engines with wings, and attached them to the front part of a thunderhawk, and then glued on the tail fin from the thunderhawk... I mean I get that this is sci-fi, but as far as combat drop ships go, thats gotta be the most unbalanced crate ever. I can't imagine it flying, which is a big reason I'm not feeling it.

I dub it the chibi-hawk

vitki wrote:I dub it the chibi-hawk

+1 lol

Well you could take the front and make a killer Spartan Landraider conversion for all you old school rogue trader players out there!

I like it

looks like a mark 1 landraider with wings!
Not my cup of tea I'm affraid,

I'd need to see the rest of the angles before I have an opinion on it. I'm a big hater of "clear glass" on models in our hobby so that's already a negative for me but it might work.

Looks to be the real deal. Note the bloodstrike missiles under the wings etc. It looks more like a helicopter than a plane to be honest. I'm just not sure what people were expecting. The Thunderhawk has to be one of the most unrealistic GW vehicle ideas ever and it was always known that the Stormraven would follow the same design lines.

Asherian Command wrote:we all said it was going too look like a box. But the models here at dakka dakka look so much better.

EDIT: DO not comment here we already made a thread for it here
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Please contact a mod to close this thread thank you.

I understand the intent here, but that thread is called '7 flyers', not Stormraven production model pics, this deserves its own thread. How would people even know that the stormraven pics were out unless they looked at the ambiguously titled '7 flyers' thread? Rename the other thread '7 new flyers in the works for 40k, 1 revealed, Stormraven! pics on page whatever' and that solves the problem nicely though!

Looks like fun to me. Not too big, not too small. Cool.

@ Therion

The thing is I could picture a Thunderhawk Flying... like I can suspend belief enough to believe that one could fly..... The Stormraven, I can't... I mean how in the hell does a pilot even land that thing, keeping it level would be a achievement worthy of the emperor...

Aerodynamics are heresy.

ugh its vile....... it looks like the thunderhawk smoked to much during its pregnancy.....

It's the wings that bother me the most. They barely look connected to the frame of it at all. If they had been placed further up front or if they had extended the body a bit, it wouldn't have looked too bad (chunky, yes, but at least more acceptable,) but as it is it just looks bizarre.

Same sort of feeling I got with the Caestus Assault Ram from FW, actually. Wings felt tacked on, which is weird, considering that they're kind of the reason it should be flying at all. At least with the Caestus you could kinda handwave it by having it be made for space combat instead of atmospheric, but still.

Aerodynamics are heresy.

Hilarious. I enjoyed that.

In a game with a galaxy spanning empire, magic weapons, daemons and altered humans that can spit acid, it amazes me what some fellow enthusiasts consider too implausible to be fun.

Similar design cues and shaping to the T-hawk without that horrific bowl os sucksoup would have been nice, thanks. That looks like someone dropped a bottle of superglue into a box full of parts.

It just looks silly. Makes me chuckle everytime I see it.

Hmm, the only positive I can think of right now is that when the plastic Land Speeder first came out I thought it was way too boxy looking.

Over time it grew on me, maybe this will be the same?

Eitherway, if I do go for Daemonhunters next year, I'll probably get a couple just to save me the hassle of converting my own.

Now that you mention it... the wings look a lot like the wings on the Assault Ram... which is ridiculous, you could shoot those off with a bolter, or turbulence.

Sgt.Roadkill wrote:ugh its vile....... it looks like the thunderhawk smoked to much during its pregnancy.....

Haha hilarious, I know GW vehicles are kinda 'Chunky' eg the Leman Russ but this is too far, It's little stubby wings are an insult to aerodynamics. I can actually see the 10 space marines fitting in but that is all i will say in it's defense.

It's adorable!

The_0perator wrote:Now that you mention it... the wings look a lot like the wings on the Assault Ram... which is ridiculous, you could shoot those off with a bolter, or turbulence.

In space, there's no turbulence. So, there's no issue with that for the Caestus Assault Ram.

Anyways, as I said in the flyer thread...

I like it. It's simple, and it makes me think the Astartes who designed it looked at a Sikorsky Skycrane and said "Holy Emperor's Teats, THIS IS BRILLIANT!".

It's a Goldfish.

Or a beta.

I might have to paint one up as a beta, dub her "The Flying Fighting Fish"

Lootable for the orks, but entirely too ugly to be taken straight, in my opinion.

BrassScorpion wrote:

Aerodynamics are heresy.

Hilarious. I enjoyed that.

In a game with a galaxy spanning empire, magic weapons, daemons and altered humans that can spit acid, it amazes me what some fellow enthusiasts consider too implausible to be fun.

Lol, there isnt much in the game that would actually fly let's face it. I don't mind most of the time, and don't mind that much in this particular case. I can see potential in the kit.

The only thing that really bugs me is all the lift and thrust is in the back while it looks like 80% or more of the weight is in the front. The Thunderhawk is a shoe-box too, but at least the weight looks distributed. It's not so much an aerodynamics thing as it is an aesthetic balance issue I think. Anyone who stops to look at a Thunderhawk, Thunderbolt, Fighta-Bomba etc with a critical eye will instantly pick it apart scientifically on aerodynamics. However, they are not so bad as to instantly and fundamentally bother you with being somehow 'off'. The SR just looks fundamentally unbalanced I think, as is. In a way that draws the eye to it every time. At least from this angle anyhoo.

Nothing a little Plasitcard and effort can't remedy though! It will probably be cheaper than buying the raider/valk kit to bash together the standardized homebrew template everyone seems to have been using lol, and take less work to convert too.

BrassScorpion wrote:

Aerodynamics are heresy.

Hilarious. I enjoyed that.

In a game with a galaxy spanning empire, magic weapons, daemons and altered humans that can spit acid, it amazes me what some fellow enthusiasts consider too implausible to be fun.

Magical weapons, daemons, or galaxy spanning empires haven't been encountered in real life. Space shuttles and aeroplanes however have. If GW designs a daemon that looks like Popey the Sailor Man I don't have any evidence to call it unrealistic or even lame, just a strange concept that my imagination finds hard to believe even on an imaginary world. If GW makes a plane that supposedly can "jink effortlessly through the interceptor fire and maneouvre at full speed through the cluttered spires of a hive city" but makes it look like a hundred ton brick with two steel plates glued on the sides of it, I can provide real world evidence about the stupidity of the concept. It amazes me that you can't see the difference. Your fellow enthusiasts can.

Now, if GW wants to sell any real amount of these kits, they need to re-write its rules for the Codex: Grey Knights. Right now it's just junk. I'm pretty sure the Valkyrie kit sales wouldn't even be half of what they are if the Vendetta option didn't exist in the IG codex.