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Haven't seen a thread on this yet, so I'll post it up

GW has put up the new 40k FAQ. Looks like FAQs are official rulings now rather than just house rules.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1490286a_FAQ_40Krulebook_version1_1.pdf

Woah. That was unexpected.

Nungunz wrote:Looks like FAQs are official rulings now rather than just house rules.

Wrong page for that.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat440134a&categoryId=1000018§ion=&aId=3400019

Still Studio House Rules, if that matters to you.

Time to read!

Q: Who gets a cover save when two units are
intermingled? (p21)
A: The unit with the model closest to the enemy that is
firing does not have a cover save.

AWESOME!

kirsanth wrote:

Nungunz wrote:Looks like FAQs are official rulings now rather than just house rules.

Wrong page for that.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat440134a&categoryId=1000018§ion=&aId=3400019

Still Studio House Rules, if that matters to you.

Time to read!

Yeah, noticed that myself. FAQ itself says that those are official rulings, though. Hopefully they'll update the main page soon so we can avoid confusion.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Q: Can any embarked troops shoot out of a vehicle on the
turn it has used its smoke launchers? (p66)
A: No




Q: If a model fires a template weapon out of a vehicle, will
the vehicle be hit if it is underneath the template? (p66)
A: No it will not be hit.




Huzzah!

Are most of these rules to aid people lacking sportsmanship/common sense?

Yes.

Nungunz wrote:

kirsanth wrote:

Nungunz wrote:Looks like FAQs are official rulings now rather than just house rules.

Wrong page for that.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat440134a&categoryId=1000018§ion=&aId=3400019

Still Studio House Rules, if that matters to you.

Time to read!

Yeah, noticed that myself. FAQ itself says that those are official rulings, though. Hopefully they'll update the main page soon so we can avoid confusion.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Q: Can any embarked troops shoot out of a vehicle on the
turn it has used its smoke launchers? (p66)
A: No




Q: If a model fires a template weapon out of a vehicle, will
the vehicle be hit if it is underneath the template? (p66)
A: No it will not be hit.




Huzzah!

The FAQ states no such thing. I already posted my response here..

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?t=11580

So I won't cut and paste the same thing over and over. FAQs are still house rules, and always will be.

House rules maybe, but they come from GW so that gives them a lot of weight 'on the street' so to speak.

Because it's always a better use of one's time to get into an argument with a new player over whether the FAQ's are official, and why you don't want to use them in the game...

I'm actually impressed with this one. It's like they admitted to real problems in the game and wanted to set things straight for ludicrous loopholes and rules lawyering abuse of common sense. Dare I hope this is a trend that continues into the future? I may just.

well it's good enough for me, back to flamer vets in chimeras ... lol

SumYungGui wrote:House rules maybe, but they come from GW so that gives them a lot of weight 'on the street' so to speak.

I agree. GW house rules do hold a lot of wieght, I am not disputing this at all.

solkan wrote:Because it's always a better use of one's time to get into an argument with a new player over whether the FAQ's are official, and why you don't want to use them in the game...

No, it is better to use one's time to educate a new player in what the difference between an Errata and a house rule is.

This is so epic.

Wow, first horrorfex goes bye-bye, now the FAQ decides on the side of "multiple pinning weapons, one test"

It truly is dead

Holy...just watching at the amount of questions answered.

Yeah, they wanted to change SOMETHING.

Q: What happens when a unit arrives from reserves but is
unable to completely move onto the board? (p94)
A: The unit is destroyed and removed from play.

Oh ouch. Poor monolith and baneblade.

I thought monliths were exactly 6" wide?
And aren't baneblades Apoc?

ChrisCP wrote:I thought monliths were exactly 6" wide?
And aren't baneblades Apoc?

Just because it's for an expansion doesn't meant the core rules still don't apply. Likewise I think it also means Land Raiders can't come on 6" to fire unless they want to do so sideways.

Vaktathi wrote:

ChrisCP wrote:I thought monliths were exactly 6" wide?
And aren't baneblades Apoc?

Just because it's for an expansion doesn't meant the core rules still don't apply. Likewise I think it also means Land Raiders can't come on 6" to fire unless they want to do so sideways.

It's Apoc... people adjust is what I'm saying, one can't except everything in an expansion to be compatible with the cores rules (but honestly I'd only expect that sort of thing from GW )

I don't see an issue with that, think about "I'm going to not quite come onto the board so I can fire all my weapons and present my front armour, you (not you, you, if you know what I mean) really let people voluntarily not come onto the board so they could pull that gak?

Q: If a transport vehicle is destroyed in the same turn as it
moved flat out what happens to any embarked models? (p70)
A: They are removed as casualties.

Did this just kill any hopes for a Trukk list?

Remember same turn = same PLAYER turn.

So if you wreck your OWN vehicle in YOUR OWN turn you die. This basically means that ramming with embarked troops couldbe a bad idea...

Wouldn't Ramshackle overrule the general rules anyway, as it is more specific?

Thank nos! I misread that and was starting to panic. No trukk list and landspeeders and crew being destroyed on a 3+ (penetrate) or 5+ (glancing) was sounding a bit awful

AlmightyWalrus wrote:Wouldn't Ramshackle overrule the general rules anyway, as it is more specific?

It only replaces the normal table, the effects of the results are not mitigated in any way by it being 'special'.

solkan wrote:Because it's always a better use of one's time to get into an argument with a new player over whether the FAQ's are official, and why you don't want to use them in the game...

I tend to ignore people who cry that the FAQs are unofficial, myself.

It's not an argument worth getting into, they'll constantly scream unofficial no matter what.

In my experience they also tend to be the people most likely to rules lawyer anyway.

AW - no, as both tables tell you to disembark. (well, explodes you DONT disembark, but we'lll leave that for now...) Meaning you still die.

As to this specific FAQ there is errata and addenda in it as well so how do you parse that? Even though they themselves say that these are house rules it shows RAI if nothing else.

ChrisCP wrote:I thought monliths were exactly 6" wide?
And aren't baneblades Apoc?

Don't forget spearhead...1 tactic to avoid the automatic wound from starting the superheavy at turn 1 was to reserve it...I guess you can't do that now and thus risk the damage roll on the superheavy vehicle damage chart...

I must say im impressed that GW has come up with the goods here.

The next question is - are some revised Army FAQ's now on the way?