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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/20 16:42:21
Subject: [Question]Swarmlord's BoneSabres Vs Dark Eldar Shadow Field
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Regular Dakkanaut
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"The Bone Sabre's ATTACKS inflict Instant Death regardless of the opponent's Toughness. In addition, any successful invulnerable saves made against HITS inflicted by the Bone Sabres must be [i]re-rolled."[/i]
So if an Archon with Shadow Field gets 3 to-wound roll from a Swarmlord, does this mean it needs to re-roll 3 times of the invul save?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/20 16:47:42
Subject: [Question]Swarmlord's BoneSabres Vs Dark Eldar Shadow Field
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Alright, if you wound an archon 3 times who happens to have shadowfield. he would than have to essentially make 6 2+ invulnerable saves or die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/20 17:12:09
Subject: Re:[Question]Swarmlord's BoneSabres Vs Dark Eldar Shadow Field
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
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That's correct so basically you go like this: Roll for invulnerable save...passed...reroll it and do that 3 times and if at any point a 1 is rolled his is instagibbed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/20 17:24:53
Subject: [Question]Swarmlord's BoneSabres Vs Dark Eldar Shadow Field
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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On my canoness (same issue basically) I just grab three different colors of dice and roll all 6 togehter. Any 1 means I get ID.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/20 18:28:37
Subject: [Question]Swarmlord's BoneSabres Vs Dark Eldar Shadow Field
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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calypso2ts wrote:On my canoness (same issue basically) I just grab three different colors of dice and roll all 6 togehter. Any 1 means I get ID.
This normally works but shadow field specifically calls out to roll each save separately and one by one because of how the field works.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/20 19:26:27
Subject: [Question]Swarmlord's BoneSabres Vs Dark Eldar Shadow Field
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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true, but considering it's gonna ID you ... not gonna matter
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/20 19:27:45
Subject: [Question]Swarmlord's BoneSabres Vs Dark Eldar Shadow Field
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Maybe I don't understand, but given any single failed save kills the Archon (as well as blowing the shadow field) is there really a difference?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/21 02:00:26
Subject: [Question]Swarmlord's BoneSabres Vs Dark Eldar Shadow Field
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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In this situation, you don't even need dif colored dice. Just roll 6 dice, and 1's and you die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/22 22:53:30
Subject: Re:[Question]Swarmlord's BoneSabres Vs Dark Eldar Shadow Field
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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just like if you get hit with, say, 3 S6+ attacks you might as well just roll 3 dice and move on with your life.
RAW, roll them individually because the codex tells you that you have to. At the table? It really won't matter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/22 23:47:28
Subject: [Question]Swarmlord's BoneSabres Vs Dark Eldar Shadow Field
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Mr Gold wrote:
"The Bone Sabre's ATTACKS inflict Instant Death regardless of the opponent's Toughness. In addition, any successful invulnerable saves made against HITS inflicted by the Bone Sabres must be [i]re-rolled."[/i]
So if an Archon with Shadow Field gets 3 to-wound roll from a Swarmlord, does this mean it needs to re-roll 3 times of the invul save?
Funny enough, yo do not take invulnerable saves from hits, you take them from wounds...
So RAW you do not have to re-roll the successful ones, since you can not take an invulnerable save from a hit, only from a wound!
Silly RAW is Silly!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/11/23 01:25:19
Subject: [Question]Swarmlord's BoneSabres Vs Dark Eldar Shadow Field
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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DeathReaper wrote:Mr Gold wrote:
"The Bone Sabre's ATTACKS inflict Instant Death regardless of the opponent's Toughness. In addition, any successful invulnerable saves made against HITS inflicted by the Bone Sabres must be [i]re-rolled."[/i]
So if an Archon with Shadow Field gets 3 to-wound roll from a Swarmlord, does this mean it needs to re-roll 3 times of the invul save?
Funny enough, yo do not take invulnerable saves from hits, you take them from wounds...
So RAW you do not have to re-roll the successful ones, since you can not take an invulnerable save from a hit, only from a wound!
Silly RAW is Silly!
Wait a minute. There are now vehicles with Invulnerable saves, so there ARE now models that take invulnerable saves against hits.
Silly RAW is Sillier!
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