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so while perusing the annals of wikipedia, I stumbled across this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astarte did GW just troll every last one of us who plays space marines?

"Adeptus Astartes" roughly translates to "Adepts of the Stars" in Latin if I recall correctly.

Thats boecause you had a comma after it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astarte

FM Ninja 048 wrote:Thats boecause you had a comma after it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astarte

ah thank you didn't even notice that

Right, astartes could also just as easily come from the greek aster + tes, which means "he who is of the stars".

Or they're making a clever pun off of the starflower, but I'm guessing not.

Or "those who are adept at sex", which is creepy given how Space Marines reproduce.

Melissia wrote:Or "those who are adept at sex", which is creepy given how Space Marines reproduce.

cutting gene encoded organs out of the dead chests of they're brethren and then planting them surgically in the chests of pre-pubescent teens seems like a rather round about way to go in terms of reproduction.

wait, how are YOU having sex?

Ailaros wrote:wait, how are YOU having sex?

you mean you don't cut the organs out your old friends and put them in your new friends to make more super friends?

Brother Heinrich wrote:

Ailaros wrote:wait, how are YOU having sex?

you mean you don't cut the organs out your old friends and put them in your new friends to make more super friends?

sigged!

Wikipedia wrote:Astarte was connected with fertility, sexuality, and war. Her symbols were the lion, the horse, the sphinx, the dove, and a star within a circle indicating the planet Venus. Pictorial representations often show her naked.[/quote

I don;t see what the problem is. Sexuality and war are my two favorite things!

Brother Heinrich wrote:

Ailaros wrote:wait, how are YOU having sex?

you mean you don't cut the organs out your old friends and put them in your new friends to make more super friends?

New friends who are little boys... hmmm... the Astares ties with the church are becoming clearer now

This is one of those things that always gave me a quick moment of humor whenever it crossed my mind. She's quite common in sections of the Old Testament, though the KJV identifies her as 'Astaroth' instead. She was typically worshipped along with the much better known Baal. The two were part of linked cults in the same religion, iirc. He got (animal) sacrifices on the mountaintops (there's a famous story involving Elijah and a contest of sorts regarding whose god would respond more quickly to a prayer and sacrifice). She got much more... uh... "stimulating"... "worship" in the groves.

So? I'm confused at to why this is important. GW steals mythology and old roman stuff all the time. Promethium=Prometheus. Just an example.

PraetorDave wrote:So? I'm confused at to why this is important. GW steals mythology and old roman stuff all the time. Promethium=Prometheus. Just an example.

Except that the purview of the ancient goddess Astarte was sex and fertility. Those aren't ordinarily what come to mind when 40K fans think of "Adeptus Astartes".

oh. I think GW just had a laundry list of old roman gods and terms, and sorta picked one because it sounds good, and not necessarily because of its meaning.

And war!

The real problem is that she is a girl.

We can't have our Manly Mariens being named for a girl.

Nice pic, is that meant to be you

Didn't Astarte have a young hunk of a lover what dies and is resurrected?

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Didn't Astarte have a young hunk of a lover what dies and is resurrected?

That may have happened to Baal - at the hands of Tiamat. But I don't remember for certain.

FM Ninja 048 wrote:Nice pic, is that meant to be you

My mother.

I am much more Manly.

kinda weird that the Greeks had a women as their god of war.

I known of this for years and the humorous part is that her simbol is a eight-pointed star.
EDIT:Oh wait,this is my 1888 post,damn you Chaos.

really? interesting.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:kinda weird that the Greeks had a women as their god of war.

Ares was the Greek god of war (though Athena was also at least somewhat militant).

Astarte was from some of the other cultures in the Mediterranean, and 'Astarte' is the Greek rendering of her name.

Brother Heinrich wrote:

Ailaros wrote:wait, how are YOU having sex?

you mean you don't cut the organs out your old friends and put them in your new friends to make more super friends?

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AFAIK, The Mesopotamian myths all have a version of the Son/Lover who dies and is reborn. The tropes carry through the Levant and into the Christianity.

Athena's military function was defensive. Hence the Aegis (shield)

Also, "Abaddon" is Hebrew for "destruction".

I think Abaddon is an angel - sometimes goes by Appolyon.

That could also be true. One day I decided to read up on what'll happen during the end of the world (see: freaky sheeat), and under one of the annotations, it had the hebrew word for destruction, and that's what was there.