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Now that's what I'm talking about! Fantastic update.

Update time!

Update #53

Apr 18 2014
hard work!
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Hey all,

Slowly but surely, all the pieces to the ifrit are coming together. There are just two pieces on their way over from the printers but I am just too excited to wait for them before I show you how the package is looking. Your resin miniatures are now safe from all the hazards of travel, and with 2" of foam layering and plenty of space all around to spare, it will make a great transport once you've painted and based your miniature.




These certificates are simply awesome! The paper is so smooth and it contains a thick red core in the center. There are also accompanying cards (still in the mail system) that will have matching serial numbers.


That's all for now! I'm aiming to have resin the lich mastered in resin for your viewing pleasure next week.

Wow, he's put an impressive amount of effort into the packaging, looks great!

It does!

My enthusiasm was somewhat tempered after someone else reminded me he's still got quite a few miniatures left to sculpt for this one.

And we're already 1 year + 2 months past the 'estimated delivery date' for it.

Are we there yet?

Yeah, was just looking and in late February he posted there were 11 weeks of sculpting and 13 figures left. Obviously doesn't count casting time.

In late March, said Ifrit was getting ready to be prepped for molding.

Last week, said Ifrit wasn't in production yet in resin due to casting difficulties, and not yet communicated to valiant about casting the metals of it.

That said, the updates in April were such an improvement! And the Lich sculpt was shown, too, so that is good.

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There is also an Instagram feed on the home page of Imbrian Arts, just scroll down:

http://www.imbrianarts.com

About half the pics are of the Beer and D6s game, which are shown well packaged and cast in resin. I hope it isn't Jody casting and packing them himself......... but at least some of that seems likely.

On that note, there's also this from the Instagram http://instagram.com/p/lfjc99osaQ/

Still, as I said, such better updates last month, so hopefully that (and hopefully faster sculpting progress) continues!

I've kind of given up on this one, to be honest.

I've certainly given up hope of any sort of actual game based on these miniatures.

I'm not sure I'd even buy anything else from him, even though the sculpts are beautiful, and I'd really like to buy some more!

Hey! I'll be doing an update tomorrow but since I came across this I thought I'd share this with you now and also comment about the resin.

I do indeed do all of my own resin casting now! If I'm going to ask $12 or $14 (in some cases a lot more) for a resin figure it has to be damn good, and I wasn't getting that feeling from the resins that I was getting made for me. I'll dig up some of them and give you a side by side comparison.

You get this incredibly guilty feeling when you consider sticking a miniature with bad mould lines in the mail to send off to someone who likes your work enough to pay money for it. It's like you're cheating them. I want the product they get to look just as good as the pics you see in the shop, so you throw it away (bye bye money) and look in the bag for another cast that looks better. Casting resin is pretty tricky and can be a bit of a challenge, that's why most people would rather pay someone else to do it. This way I only have to spend money on the materials, and I don't have to pay for stock that may or may not sell well and eat up funds. But the most important thing is that the difference in quality is huge. I'm proud to sell it and I'm proud that I made it.

I do a lot of the packaging myself. Sometimes I get help, but I'd rather be there to get that one last look at the miniature to make sure it's good before sticking it in the packaging.

I've worked out the casting issues with the ifrit. He's casting up just fine and the resin version is available in the shop. The Lich casts are coming out beautifully as well. I'm currently stocking up on the Lich casts while I wait for the cards to arrive. Recently a few friends of mine convinced me to cast up an old sculpture that I made for GW as a test sculpt. A few years back they asked me to sculpt an empire soldier as part of a job interview. Since it wasn't my style I just stuck it in a box and forgot about it. So there's that too! I'm aiming to have a summoning circle ready by the end of the month. From there we can work on card design for the beta rules and get some rules out for testing. I really really don't want to stick pictures of unpainted miniatures on cards. It's not a good look! Maybe we'll use some of the concept art, or start setting aside time for painting.

Thanks for hanging in, and seriously, if you have any questions feel free to message me.

Here are some pics of the new stuff.

An update...

Update #55

May 19 2014
Ifrit and Lich
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Hey! Another quick update for you on our progress.

We had some casting issues with the censers on the ifrit so we separated them and now the casts are coming out great and we released it on Friday.







The resin copies of the Lich are currently in production and should be ready by the time all of the pieces for the package arrive which should be at the end of this month.



Work on the summoning circle is continuing. I'd like to have a working version ready to show you by the end of the month, and give you another run down on how it works with the bones. Once the circle is done we'll focus on cards, rules, and getting models painted.

That's all! Our next update should have a summoning circle preview and casts of the zombies!

-Jody

Nice to see some progress - and those two miniatures do look very good indeed!

But, let the waiting continue!

I actually don't like the Ifrit very much. The movement seems off, and he doesn't seem very grounded. In fact, the movement is very off to my eye.

Update - backer only.

Some big personal happenings for him, and while congrats are due, it is strongly hinted/implied that we won't be seeing much progress here for quite some time.

Possibly towards the end of this year, or later.

Ugh.

Estimated delivery was FEBRUARY 2013.

This one has every indication of shipping 2 years late - or later.

[EDIT --never mind. too distasteful]
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giggity.

Yeah, I had a comment here last night that I deleted, too. I posted above that he commented in February of this year on the Kickstarter page that there were 11 weeks of sculpting left, comprising 13 figures.

A due date for his family of this coming December should really not have affected anything. And it still really shouldn't, if progress were being made at any reasonable pace... but as I said before, I think his taking on casting in-house has massively increased the workload that he will be required to do himself. It allows him to get the models made much cheaper, which sounds like it's important right now... but if everything had gone ahead like it should have, the money would have been spent paying a caster and this would be over with and he could easily move on to commission work.

I actually just went and looked at my metal goblins from this Kickstarter this morning. They are absolutely lovely. It's a shame he couldn't make more progress on the things that were not already sculpted when this began... I'm just glad that I stuck to pledging for what was already done and just needed to be cast.

Edit: From the KS comments:

zoroaster100 about 1 hour ago
That last update was worrying. I understand life happens, we are all human, and delays can occur, but we already seemed pretty far behind on getting our stuff. Jody, I hope you can find a way to fit your obligations to your backers into your now more difficult schedule to keep things moving forward, even if at a slower pace than before. If you plan to launch Kickstarters in the future, you could be shooting yourself in the foot if you treat your backers as lowest priority just because you already have our money. It could hurt your credibility on future Kickstarters if you delay delivery too long.

Creator Jody Siegel 37 minutes ago
I understand your concern zoroaster. My issue is that I do not want to spend my KS funds on anything other than production of this kick starter. Switching to metal effectively tripled the production costs and that money had to come from somewhere. It had to came from money set aside to pay for the time I spend sculpting, aka the commission fee that I'd normally charge. So because that money is being used to fund the production of metals, it means that I'm essentially working but not paying myself to do the work, so I have less income to pay for things like rent, food, etc. Most of the money I need to live off of comes from online sales. So when a situation comes up where I need money, like to pay for moving or what's going to happen when our baby is born and my fiancé has to spend some time out of work then I have to come up with that money in order to keep a roof over our head. I don't mind working for free to get this project done now, because it's going to pay off in the long run, but I still have to make sure rent gets paid and there's food in our bellies while I'm temporarily the soul provider. So the only way to do that is to get extra work.
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This is still very much conjecture and planning for a worst case scenario, in which I have to do commissions to make ends meet, and giving you all a heads up so it doesn't come as too much of a shock. Resin products in the online shop have been a huge boost, and if they continue to do well, commissions may not be necessary, so the more time I have to work on this project and release resins, the better the odds are that I won't be stuck doing a bunch of commissions while mom isn't working.

I once again deleted a comment here because in the end, it's true, casting in metal is expensive. But a lot of campaigns do not lock things down with their casters regarding volume and lead time before launching, and when they hit stretch goals, don't re-verify these things... there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes but I think it's reasonable to say that this campaign did not verify that this volume would be doable with several other campaigns already queued in front of it for casting. So, the switch to metal was unfortunate if the cost wasn't factored in, but honestly not entirely unpredictable.

In the end, casting the resin rewards in-house should make up for a large part of that extra metal cost for the normal rewards, but obviously adds tons of work and time to the campaign... which I think is what we're seeing now.

On Kickstarter:

zoroaster100 about 2 hours ago

That last update was worrying. I understand life happens, we are all human, and delays can occur, but we already seemed pretty far behind on getting our stuff. Jody, I hope you can find a way to fit your obligations to your backers into your now more difficult schedule to keep things moving forward, even if at a slower pace than before. If you plan to launch Kickstarters in the future, you could be shooting yourself in the foot if you treat your backers as lowest priority just because you already have our money. It could hurt your credibility on future Kickstarters if you delay delivery too long.

Creator Jody Siegel about 1 hour ago

I understand your concern zoroaster. My issue is that I do not want to spend my KS funds on anything other than production of this kick starter. Switching to metal effectively tripled the production costs and that money had to come from somewhere. It had to came from money set aside to pay for the time I spend sculpting, aka the commission fee that I'd normally charge. So because that money is being used to fund the production of metals, it means that I'm essentially working but not paying myself to do the work, so I have less income to pay for things like rent, food, etc. Most of the money I need to live off of comes from online sales. So when a situation comes up where I need money, like to pay for moving or what's going to happen when our baby is born and my fiancé has to spend some time out of work then I have to come up with that money in order to keep a roof over our head. I don't mind working for free to get this project done now, because it's going to pay off in the long run, but I still have to make sure rent gets paid and there's food in our bellies while I'm temporarily the soul provider. So the only way to do that is to get extra work.
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This is still very much conjecture and planning for a worst case scenario, in which I have to do commissions to make ends meet, and giving you all a heads up so it doesn't come as too much of a shock. Resin products in the online shop have been a huge boost, and if they continue to do well, commissions may not be necessary, so the more time I have to work on this project and release resins, the better the odds are that I won't be stuck doing a bunch of commissions while mom isn't working.

So, in all seriousness, has anyone received anything yet? I'm just wondering if I should have received any of my figures from the KS yet, the ones that are already for sale on the Imbrian website?

I really don't remember the what the shipping details were.

Two of the minis that I pledged for haven't even been sculpted yet, so assuming that everything is shipped in one batch I will probably receive them all at some point in 2020.

I've gone from being excited about this project, to disappointed about the delays, to practically writing the whole thing off. At least I'm now starting to see the funny side, I wonder what Jody's next excuse for delays will be?

Some people have in fact received some miniatures - the Forest Goblins have shipped complete, I think?

But the latest update on this one?

Yeah, 2015 for delivery is a VERY real possibility here.

This one can easily slip to shipping 2 YEARS late.

On the plus side, I just double checked what I pledged for and it seems that I am getting the Ifrit for free because I pledged more than $110.

If there's one thing better than imaginary miniatures that I will never receive, it's free imaginary miniatures that I will never receive!

Pledge $550 or more

20 backers Limited (80 left of 100)

COMPLETE IMBRIAN COLLECTOR PACKAGE- get every single imbrian arts figure sculpted from 01 Jan 2013 - 01 Jan 2014. Including every miniature shown in this kick starter, except the goblin set, cast in resin along with concept art cards, and certificates of authenticity. Miniatures will be mailed to you as they are completed. Due to the time it takes to put a miniature into production, you can expect to have miniatures sent to you well in to 2014. It's a HUGE deal.

What was the outcome of this pledge level in the end? Was there one?

No idea.

I can't imagine those folks are happy though.

MarkusT 4 days ago

But it would sure be lovely to see the rules so we could get some playtesting done:-). Come on throw us a bone.

Alpharius 3 days ago

@ MarkusT - I see what you did there! Well played!

Alpharius about 16 hours ago

Still no bones thrown?!?

Creator Jody Siegel about 16 hours ago

Sorry guys, no news yet! I'm completely consumed at the moment trying to finish up a piece before our move which is only 10 days away!

I'm going to stand by my prediction of February 2015, just because of the symmetry of it all...

I think that's way too early, personally. If he doesn't finish before having a baby, those in for later miniatures could be waiting a long, long time. I'd be swapping to already completed ones right now if I were in that position... it's worked well for me on other Kickstarters that are encountering difficulty, and I still have yet to get completely stiffed on a campaign because of it (although I've been a part of a few that went south, I just cashed out before they hit bottom).

Not a bad idea, but I really don't think he's got all that much finished yet, outside of the Forest/Jungle/Whatever Goblins - of which I have no interest in.

You're probably right though - Feb. 2015 is a bit too optimistic on t his one.

I really should just forget about it until/if it ever ships.

Yeah, that does throw a wrench in the "cash out" plan

Just think of it like an ejection seat and don't wait too late to punch it if things don't improve/progress...

It is probably already too late.

I'm not in this one for too much - and I really love his sculpting style and much of what he's already completed.

But given all that he's got going on now, I wouldn't be shocked if this one goes well into 2015, and I also wouldn't be surprised if it turns into so much vapor either.

Meconium, Alpharius. Not vapor.

I look forward to following the backlash later.

zoroaster100 1 day ago
@Jody: Do you plan to do any more work on this Kickstarter's miniatures in the next three months?

CrazyBaldHead 1 day ago

Any chance of an official update? Perhaps containing a list of what's left and it's order in the rotation?

Creator Jody Siegel about 19 hours ago

Yes absolutely! Right now everything is packed up and in storage. The property manager at our new place had to delay our move in to spray for bugs and replace the carpets which has delayed our move in by two weeks. So we get to move in mid August and from there it will be back to work on Imbrian stuff. I don't believe we'll have to do any more commissions until the baby is here. I'm just guessing here but as long as there are no more hold ups I can probably sculpt and master at least 6 more miniatures before the baby arrives.

Q2 2015 it is!

You know, there was a time when I regretted pulling my pledge on this one...

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

And man were you ever right here!

t'wasn't even aggro that caused it - just lack of finances at the time and a choice between this and something else...

Sometimes you're right, sometimes you're lucky - but the best times are when you're lucky AND right!