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2018/02/26 11:32:21
Subject: Re:New historical kits for possible use in 40K
Die Waffenkammer have a Ratte coming out in 1/56th eventually. The modeller's been making it on and off for a while now. ...That's like the size of a Landraider I suppose.
For a size comparison I'd say one of those Marders would come out a smidge longer than s a Space Marine's bike. The 38 (t) was a comparatively small tank compared, even when not comparing it to things like the Sherman or Panzer IV. Whilst Warlord Games' plastic soldiers are Heroic Scale, they aren't nearly as large as Games Workshop's figures. So unless you're using comparatively sized soldiers - i.e. Forgeworld's, they'll look a bit small.
I suppose the exposed crew would be similar to a weapon's team. If you're going to use realistic looking vehicles though, you'd have to go ahead and replace any other vehicles in your army as well. Having something like this next to a Games Workshop vehicle will look weird (the GW one's lack of details and ridiculous proportions being the main issues). I'd look towards finding some 1/48th scale replacements for the rest as well (i.e. Tiger IIs for Leman Russ, something like a Katzchen for a Centaur or a Panther converted over to an APC for the Chimera (there wasn't really any WWII examples that fit the bill of the BMP styled Chimera. Most of those came in the following decades - though the British did have a 50 man APC just after the war ...which in 40K terms would hold maybe 10 guys).
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2018/03/13 08:34:00
Subject: Re:New historical kits for possible use in 40K
Saves on gas too. Just put it in neutral and have it fire opposite of the direction you want to go .
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
2018/03/13 12:20:17
Subject: Re:New historical kits for possible use in 40K
The 2A3 Kondensator 2P (Russian: 2А3 «Конденсатор» - "Condenser") was a Soviet 406 mm self-propelled Howitzer. 2A3 is its GRAU designation.
The 2A3 originated during the Cold War as a response to the United States' new "Pentomic Division" tactical doctrine that emphasized heavy use of nuclear weapons including nuclear artillery. The US M65 cannon was introduced in 1952 and deployed in Germany in 1953. The Soviet Union started its own program to develop a 406mm self-propelled howitzer capable of firing nuclear projectiles, codenamed 'Objekt 271'.[1]
Grabin Design Bureau completed the artillery system in 1955. The 'Objekt 271' chassis from the Kotlin Design Bureau in Leningrad was completed soon thereafter. The unified system received the military industrial designation 2A3 and was completed in 1956 at the Kirov Works in Leningrad. Total production only amounted to four vehicles.[2]
Western observers got their first look at the new weapon during a 1957 parade on Red Square. Initially observers thought that the weapon was a mockup created for deterrent effect.
Kondensator had an exceptionally short service life. Following a period of extensive testing the weapons were assigned to the Artillery High Command reserve. There they remained in service until the military reforms of Nikita Khrushchev were enacted, favouring more effective missile systems over the super-heavy artillery and heavy tanks of the Stalinist era.[3]
All four Kondensator howitzers were retired in the mid-1960s. One of the weapons was placed on static display at the Central Armed Forces Museum in Moscow.
2018/03/13 17:48:49
Subject: New historical kits for possible use in 40K
Eyeballing it, the large turret would be around a 40mm base sized. Maybe 50mm. Regardless, the main gun's barrel diameter looks smaller than an autocannon's. You could maybe get await with it for 40K if you replaced all the hatches to look larger, and probably the whole upper area with some form of casement (as those guns are *far* too small compared to GW's aesthetic).
2018/03/16 05:12:52
Subject: Re:New historical kits for possible use in 40K
Nifty British fighter from the 50s that still looks science fictiony today.
Nice MRAP
Another nice APC with a robot arm
And some useful terrain/accessory bitz. The milk jugs in particular raise all sorts of ideas. Maybe your Marines have to safeguard the Lord-Governor's baby, but the baby is hungry so they have to set out across hostile territory to get some milk. Or maybe a planet's cows are tainted by chaos and the Inquisition has to intercept the milk shipment before it infects billions of innocent citizens. The posibilities are endless!
(Milk jugs and a cart? What a totally random kit )
2018/04/27 11:13:39
Subject: Re:New historical kits for possible use in 40K
Not sure if they've already been in this thread, but the Meng Kids range has some interesting 'chibi' style WW2 kits - in particular the airplanes look good for greenskin flyers...
Scale shot with Tamiya paint - a touch small for an Ork flyer, but surely good for a Grot (or a Squat!)
Don’t be rude , if BrookM has been taken and probed then its a historical kit (sorry it’s really not funny that you were probed)
LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14
2018/05/19 22:05:54
Subject: New historical kits for possible use in 40K
Those world war toon tanks are amazing. Definite conversion potential.
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2018/05/20 07:37:24
Subject: New historical kits for possible use in 40K
For those who are looking for Leman Russ alternatives at a cheap price, I don't think you can really pass this tank up. They clock in at around $23AUD at full retail, and can usually be found a lot cheaper than that online. This kit is immensely detailed, coming with everything you need to detail the tanks interior as well as keeping it nice looking for the exterior, which includes some photo-etch grill pieces for the engine area. You could skip adding all this in and just keep the pieces around for conversion bits for other projects if you're looking to just use this as a wargaming piece. The engine could be converted nicely to be some kind of electrical charger for a laser cannon if you added in a few bits and pieces to it.
Since 8th Ed. has changed how vehicles work (no more need to worry about facing or front/side/rear armour values), the necessity for having a tank exactly to scale with the Leman Russ diminishes quite a lot. Here the T-34 is a great choice, as when you punch in the real world dimensions, and adjust using this wonderful scale calculator here, you can see that the 1/48 T-34 is slightly longer than a Leman Russ, but also a bit thinner (1.75cm by my reckoning) and shorter (about 2cm perhaps). The width can be solved by making some spaced armour for it, using whatever you want, and the height isn't really much of a consideration to be honest, unless you're really want to be that detailed.
Comes with plastic tracks for it as well, so no cheap rubber-band style ones for this nice model.
Price is around $20-40AUD, depending on retailer (cheaper to buy via ebay or hlj.com). This is the most modern MBT available at the moment, and has some really good sleek lines to it. Again, since facing and armour sides aren't involved any more, I don't think people will be too mad that you've got a tank which is longer length but thinner and shorter than a Leman Russ. A little plasticard converting to perhaps give it some reactive armour or change the basket on the back, and you've got something really nice to use for people who want a much more futuristic style tank. And it makes a change from buying a 1/48 Abrams to represent such. Best of all, it comes with plastic tracks instead of rubber belt ones, so you can have really nice looking tracks for your tank, with actual realism to them instead of just rounded sprockets and a glorified rubber band.
This kit is an absolute beast, while also being really easy to put together and exceptionally well designed. Retails from around $85-130AUD, depending on where you source it from (HLJ is a good place to find it in stock), and it is huge. The only drawback is that the tracks are only made in rubber, so unless you want to spend $50AUD for some workable metal ones, these will need to suffice.
However, here is the benefits of this kit - It's priced cheaper than a Baneblade (for Australians at least); it comes with fantastically made slide-tooled parts to make it wonderfully tight fitting and accurate; it's the same size as a Baneblade/Fellblade. In fact this would be a hell of a lot cheaper to buy than a Fellblade/Fellglaive, and looks cooler as well. How do I know that they are the same size? This wonderful youtube video shows me how close they are in size!
I have two of these kits, and I wish I had 10. They are so fantastic to put together. Oh and if you buy some Kotobukiya M.S.G. weapon add-ons (like this Sentry Gun or these for sponson weapons, they fit in perfectly with this tanks style.
8E has really freed us up on what we can use to represent vehicles, and so long as the tanks are within reasonable similar dimensions, I don't see why we can't use them on the table-top.
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2018/06/19 15:01:33
Subject: New historical kits for possible use in 40K
ph34r wrote: Those world war toon tanks are amazing. Definite conversion potential.
I have converted 10 of them into ork tanks. 4panzeriv, 5 kv2 and 1 king tiger. Really easy to fit 40k sized weapon on them as their weapon are already the right diameter.
So so redeemer flame canon on the kv2 and some kustom blasta on the others. The kv2 just scream 40k.
Note that the king tiger is the size of a leman russ and could be used for that too.
The ming planes are too narrow to fit even grots though.
The egg plane series on the other hand makes great mini dakjajet with grots pilot. A tad pricy unless your ok with 3 month delivery
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2018/06/19 17:39:14
Subject: New historical kits for possible use in 40K
ph34r wrote: Those world war toon tanks are amazing. Definite conversion potential.
I have converted 10 of them into ork tanks. 4panzeriv, 5 kv2 and 1 king tiger. Really easy to fit 40k sized weapon on them as their weapon are already the right diameter.
So so redeemer flame canon on the kv2 and some kustom blasta on the others. The kv2 just scream 40k.
Note that the king tiger is the size of a leman russ and could be used for that too.
The ming planes are too narrow to fit even grots though.
The egg plane series on the other hand makes great mini dakjajet with grots pilot. A tad pricy unless your ok with 3 month delivery
What source did you order from?
ph34r's Forgeworld Phobos blog, current WIP: Iron Warriors and Skaven Tau +From Iron Cometh Strength+ +From Strength Cometh Will+ +From Will Cometh Faith+ +From Faith Cometh Honor+ +From Honor Cometh Iron+
The Polito form is dead, insect. Are you afraid? What is it you fear? The end of your trivial existence?
When the history of my glory is written, your species shall only be a footnote to my magnificence.
2018/06/19 17:40:57
Subject: Re:New historical kits for possible use in 40K
I'd warn that the Hobbyboss kits aren't that amazing if we're in the realms of scale WWII tanks. The details are shallow, some pieces are overly thin and I found that many of their kits have flash and mould imperfections in small holes which you're supposed to insert parts into. Though if you're using them for Warhammer detail's probably not a massive concern and most would be left off anyway.
Tamiya do an IS-2 which has an 88 that may be more suitable for a stand in as a Leman Russ, though costs a few pounds more than Hobby Boss' kits (I remember buying one of those T-34s when they were just out for £10).
2018/06/19 19:58:36
Subject: New historical kits for possible use in 40K
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, if BrookM has been taken and probed then its a historical kit 
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