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2017/11/20 21:55:43
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Three and a half weeks for us in the UK.
Got the day booked off, and my ticket booked. Also inadvertently printed from when I went to see Thor. Automatically Appended Next Post: Here’s a thought though....
What if Finn is actually a sort of Manchurian Candidate?
We know Phasma ordered him to report for Reneducation....we’re just sort of taking it as read that he didn’t, and went straight to Poe?
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2017/11/20 21:59:11
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Galef wrote:Man this wait is killing me. I'm stuck between forced indifference (just to make the time go faster) and anxious anticipation.
Man, I wish I felt anything at all for Star Wars again.
Here, let me warm my ethereal fingers with your joy. Commmmmme heeeeeeeeeeeeeere..
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2017/11/20 22:02:37
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Blimey, that crept up on me... and I need to have a dissertation written by then...
I was very pleased to hear that the run time for TLJ is a full two and a half hours. The fact that they're letting Johnson have a release longer than the 2:20 that pretty much every Disney movie in the last few years has capped at is quite encouraging; that and the fact they've given him the keys to a new trilogy before TLJ even releases says that they're very pleased with what he's done thus far and have a great deal of faith in him...
Which with any luck means we're in for a bloody good film come December....
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2017/11/20 22:07:49
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Yup.
There’s a lot to look forward to!
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2017/11/20 23:12:22
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Is that a CGI face on Chewbacca? Tell me I'm seeing things because that looked fake as hell. It's almost (but not quite) as bad as Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales. Seriously, Disney, WTF?!?
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2017/11/21 01:15:26
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Fixture of Dakka
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Three and a half weeks? I've got episode 3, Rebels, Rogue 1 and episodes 4-7 to get through!
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2017/11/21 01:55:57
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
We know Phasma ordered him to report for Reneducation....we’re just sort of taking it as read that he didn’t, and went straight to Poe?
No, Phasma says that he reported to her section, was assessed and released. Then he went to get Poe.
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2017/11/21 06:43:09
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Hmmm.
Still makes me wonder.
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2017/11/30 10:55:29
Subject: Re:The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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How long until the UK gets The Last Jedi and I'll have seen it?
*flails excitedly*.
Also, just read a fan theory that Rey has been cloned from Lukes lost hand.
Pretty sure that's not really how cloning works. Male donor would only produce male clones. On account they're clones.
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2017/11/30 11:02:20
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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I'm pretty sure someone just found some old Doctor Who scripts there...
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2017/11/30 12:11:53
Subject: Re:The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:How long until the UK gets The Last Jedi and I'll have seen it?
*flails excitedly*.
Also, just read a fan theory that Rey has been cloned from Lukes lost hand.
Pretty sure that's not really how cloning works. Male donor would only produce male clones. On account they're clones.
They release it on the 15th here in Romania. I'll probably wait until the 17th or 18th, give it a few days to wind down a bit.
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2017/11/30 13:25:13
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I typically go to the 10:30 AM showings on Saturday when all the teenagers are still asleep and the mid-20s rabble-rousers are still hung over.
We sometimes get a theater to ourselves, even on opening weekend.
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2017/11/30 14:05:14
Subject: Re:The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Also, just read a fan theory that Rey has been cloned from Lukes lost hand. Pretty sure that's not really how cloning works. Male donor would only produce male clones. On account they're clones.
Well, technically you could get a female clone from a male source by simply duplicating the male's X chromosome and discarding the Y. What you cannot get is a male clone of a female, because there is no Y chromosome. However, it's still a dumb theory. I am doubling down on the Rey Skywalker theory though, as that is not only the strongest theory, but it is the only one that would make sense to a casual audience member. These stories need to be easy to follow and 90% of the current theories need extra source material (i.e. not the movies) or too much exposition to explain. It would also provide some really nice symmetry for the Saga as Kylo is the Son of the Daughter of Anakin and Rey would be the Daughter of the Son of Anakin. Anakin's light & dark sides personified. Oh and Rey may not be her name after all. Some translated the symbols on the rebel helmet she was wearing in TFA and it have the name Reigh on it. Some other cannon source shows that she has a journal from a captain Reigh. So she probably told Finn her name was Rey as a cover. If true, this indicates that Rey knows more than she let on in TFA. -
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2017/11/30 15:37:33
Subject: Re:The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:How long until the UK gets The Last Jedi and I'll have seen it?
*flails excitedly*.
Also, just read a fan theory that Rey has been cloned from Lukes lost hand.
Pretty sure that's not really how cloning works. Male donor would only produce male clones. On account they're clones.
I think you could clone a female from a male - just replace the Y chromosome with a copy of the X (and hope Luke didn't have any recessive genetic disorders in his X chromosome).
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2017/11/30 15:56:19
Subject: Re:The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Galef wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Also, just read a fan theory that Rey has been cloned from Lukes lost hand.
Pretty sure that's not really how cloning works. Male donor would only produce male clones. On account they're clones.
Well, technically you could get a female clone from a male source by simply duplicating the male's X chromosome and discarding the Y. What you cannot get is a male clone of a female, because there is no Y chromosome.
However, it's still a dumb theory.
I am doubling down on the Rey Skywalker theory though, as that is not only the strongest theory, but it is the only one that would make sense to a casual audience member.
These stories need to be easy to follow and 90% of the current theories need extra source material (i.e. not the movies) or too much exposition to explain.
It would also provide some really nice symmetry for the Saga as Kylo is the Son of the Daughter of Anakin and Rey would be the Daughter of the Son of Anakin. Anakin's light & dark sides personified.
Oh and Rey may not be her name after all. Some translated the symbols on the rebel helmet she was wearing in TFA and it have the name Reigh on it. Some other cannon source shows that she has a journal from a captain Reigh. So she probably told Finn her name was Rey as a cover. If true, this indicates that Rey knows more than she let on in TFA.
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Or she never knew her name, and chose one? At the age we see her in her vision, that's entirely possible.
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2017/11/30 17:39:05
Subject: Re:The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Or she never knew her name, and chose one? At the age we see her in her vision, that's entirely possible.
Possible, maybe, but certainly not plausible. Children who are old enough to speak are able to know their name.
Another clue that Luke dropped her off on Jakku is the shuttle from that vision. In Legends, Luke has a personal shuttle that looks just like it (boxy with 2 main engines and fins down the sides)
Disney is clearly taking bits and pieces from Legends stories (which is where the clone of Luke's hand comes from) so I would not be surprised.
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2017/11/30 17:58:43
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Fixture of Dakka
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My hope is that Kylo left her on Jakku to go along with the idea that he's something of a failure at being Vader.
It saddens me to realize that I am super excited for this film and super excited for the week immediately after it, but ultimately resigned to the misery that is the next year of hearing about how its the worst movie of all time. :-(
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2017/11/30 18:56:22
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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LunarSol wrote:It saddens me to realize that I am super excited for this film and super excited for the week immediately after it, but ultimately resigned to the misery that is the next year of hearing about how its the worst movie of all time. :-(
I'm old, and perhaps my memory is growing hazy. But I don't remember it being a 'thing' in my youth to plunk down good money for a movie in order to hate-watch it. It seems to be something people do now.
I suppose it's partially a geek thing? God knows geeks obsess over minutiae, and *love* to sound smart by spouting jargon ("it had some pacing issues in the third act"). Still, to me it's a weird mindset to dwell in such pre-planned, gleeful negativity.
I don't really care though. I'll probably enjoy TLJ no matter what the hipster doofus prick at the comic store has to say about it.
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2017/11/30 19:20:38
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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gorgon wrote: LunarSol wrote:It saddens me to realize that I am super excited for this film and super excited for the week immediately after it, but ultimately resigned to the misery that is the next year of hearing about how its the worst movie of all time. :-(
I'm old, and perhaps my memory is growing hazy. But I don't remember it being a 'thing' in my youth to plunk down good money for a movie in order to hate-watch it. It seems to be something people do now.
I suppose it's partially a geek thing? God knows geeks obsess over minutiae, and *love* to sound smart by spouting jargon ("it had some pacing issues in the third act"). Still, to me it's a weird mindset to dwell in such pre-planned, gleeful negativity.
I don't really care though. I'll probably enjoy TLJ no matter what the hipster doofus prick at the comic store has to say about it.
Agreed. If I am spending good money to watch a movie (likely several times) I am going to do my best to enjoy it rather than pick it apart. Acknowledgement of a movies flaws can be fun for discussion, but it should never be the main take-away.
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2017/11/30 19:22:23
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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2 weeks! Can't wait. It's been a good movie year. I have enjoyed Thor: Bosom Buddies, Justice League, Murder on the Orient Express, Wonder Woman, Guardians of the Galaxy II, Logan, and The Dark Tower.
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2017/12/03 11:52:13
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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So much more excited for this than Christmas!
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2017/12/04 14:46:25
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Galef wrote: gorgon wrote: LunarSol wrote:It saddens me to realize that I am super excited for this film and super excited for the week immediately after it, but ultimately resigned to the misery that is the next year of hearing about how its the worst movie of all time. :-(
I'm old, and perhaps my memory is growing hazy. But I don't remember it being a 'thing' in my youth to plunk down good money for a movie in order to hate-watch it. It seems to be something people do now.
I suppose it's partially a geek thing? God knows geeks obsess over minutiae, and *love* to sound smart by spouting jargon ("it had some pacing issues in the third act"). Still, to me it's a weird mindset to dwell in such pre-planned, gleeful negativity.
I don't really care though. I'll probably enjoy TLJ no matter what the hipster doofus prick at the comic store has to say about it.
Agreed. If I am spending good money to watch a movie (likely several times) I am going to do my best to enjoy it rather than pick it apart. Acknowledgement of a movies flaws can be fun for discussion, but it should never be the main take-away.
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I don't understand going to watch a movie you don't think you will like - why bother, watch it later for free on Sky etc - thats what i do with films I am unsure of.
I quite enjoyed TFA so likely see this - that film was not as good as the second half of Rogue One but much better than its first half.
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2017/12/04 15:01:56
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Mr Morden wrote:I don't understand going to watch a movie you don't think you will like - why bother, watch it later for free on Sky etc - thats what i do with films I am unsure of. I quite enjoyed TFA so likely see this - that film was not as good as the second half of Rogue One but much better than its first half.
I guess my original point is that it's Star Wars, so I'm gonna enjoy it no matter what. I enjoyed the Prequels after all, and we all know how flawed those are But I do kinda agree with your assessment of TFA vs R1.
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2017/12/04 15:04:32
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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I don't get people that go to a movie to dissect it, rather than simply watch it.
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2017/12/04 16:12:47
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Fixture of Dakka
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I rarely see this happen. More often than not they go to it, watch it, like it even if they see the flaws, then respond to other people's adoration by digging their heels into the flaws and losing sight of what they liked. Contrary opinions get a lot of attention, and people inherently like to stand out. Rewatching a film is a totally different experience in many cases (as my daughter has quickly forced me to learn ) and if you go back to a film intent to see how bad the flaws are, they'll be all you see.
Ultimately what its really about is that most films people LOVE are in the B+/A- range. Are there better films? Sure. Does that make these films lesser films? I guess. Does that make lesser films bad? No, but people love them some binary logic. It doesn't help that true A/A+ films are exceedingly rare and hard to come by. Even the academy listing is often a mix of B/B+/A-/A stuff where its quite common for even the winner to be more of a B film that only really works for the awards crowd. It takes years to really see what lasts and by then public opinion has cemented people's opinions pretty hard.
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2017/12/04 16:12:51
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Some people want to wath the world burn. Others want to give wicked sick burns to the world.
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2017/12/04 16:13:19
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Me neither. I might go to a movie I think I'll enjoy and end up not liking it, but that's always a risk. Then again, my expectations for movies aren't very high. I don't go to movies expecting paradigm shifts in how I look at the world. If I want that, I'll read a good book.
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2017/12/04 19:32:02
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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It's not like I do it on purpose. I can love a dumb film if it just doesn't hit me in the face with it or slow down so much that I have to think about the film to occupy myself. That's what happened with BVS. I went because I expected it to be fun in the way that pre-Iron Man superhero films were fun, but instead found myself studying the film and its fractal pattern of flaws for lack of fun to distract me. TFA had the same problem. The first half was pretty fun, if stupid, but then it started adding up and getting in my face until nothing in the film rose above the obvious, glaring flaws. As a JJ film, it's even worse later when the rush wears off and you actually think about the film "cooly". The pacing problems didn't help, either. It was like being force-fed cake instead of enjoying it.
When I know I won't like a film, I don't go see it. If I was tricked by word of mouth, I walk out of the theater. The only time I sat through a movie I knew I would hate was Peter Jackson's King Kong. Ten minutes in, I wanted to get our money back, but my friends wanted to MsT3k the film instead (which I thought was rude to the customers who paid to enjoy the movie for what it was), and my wife didn't want us to have to wait in the lobby or the mall. I honestly would have preferred to spend that time at a dentist's office rather than sit there feeling hours of my life disappear forever. But I have a good dentist.
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2017/12/04 21:00:03
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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I have no idea how they're distinct things for you.
How would someone turn off their brain and not consider what they're doing/watching/reading?
I'm not being insulting, I just have no idea how thought can be compartmentalized and kept away from any activity, or why it would be a good thing to do so.
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2017/12/04 21:55:50
Subject: The new Last Jedi Trailer just premiered
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Voss wrote:
I have no idea how they're distinct things for you.
How would someone turn off their brain and not consider what they're doing/watching/reading?
I'm not being insulting, I just have no idea how thought can be compartmentalized and kept away from any activity, or why it would be a good thing to do so.
Because one can still appreciate the sheer spectacle of a movie even whilst acknowledging that it was pretty dumb and didn't make much sense.
The prequels were poorly written, but I still loved the battle scenes and Lightsabre duels.
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