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JimmyWolf87 wrote:
 Siygess wrote:
Ooof, my monies! Well, I suppose I can hold off on the additional adventurers until there is a print version of Into the Dark available.

But when that happens? I need these. Especially Sven!


I'm not sure there's going to be a print version of Into the Dark.


Manchu wrote:Digital only would be astonishingly lame and feel like a red flag for the product line.


They did the same thing with fallout due to print costs and MSRP not being practical for such a small document but John has recently stated they're looking at combining the fallout Into The Wasteland with other rulesets that would be too small on their own as well (with die cut cards) for that line. I would suspect to see something similar with Into the Dark with CTA settlement mode (being worked on) expansion and probably a wilderness generator (like into the wasteland) if one is planned. It could also get wrapped into one of their yearly planned campaign books for CTA but until Gavin, John or Chis let us know what the plans are you'll have to assume there won't be a print.

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 Manchu wrote:
Digital only would be astonishingly lame and feel like a red flag for the product line.


Gavin and I sat down today and planned out the share of 2D and 3D between now and 2025 so no worries about the product line on that front.

The issues right now are Bethesda being super busy with Starfield and TES so not having as much capacity to approve as we usually have (we are working out how to resolve that) and the whole global situation still being bumpy.

Paper and printing are still crazy expensive and backed up, we had a quote for an 11 month wait on some book printing recently.

So, digital helps as it means we can release things sooner rather than later. We can do minis in house so that's easier (and approval is much faster on non written content). Now, I know nothing about the status of Into the Dark so please don't misread this as confirmation of anything, more letting you know that we are planned right up to end 2024 and have no intention of stopping there as long as we have the various licences.

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 JonWebb wrote:
 Manchu wrote:
Digital only would be astonishingly lame and feel like a red flag for the product line.


Gavin and I sat down today and planned out the share of 2D and 3D between now and 2025 so no worries about the product line on that front.


I have what's purported to be a partial transcript:

Gavin: I need 30 slots a month for models
Jon: I don't think we really have the manufacturing capacity for 30 new models a month in Elder Scrolls in addition to Fallout.
Gavin: Hear me out. What if all of the models were Gunners ...
Joh: Go on...
Gavin: ...in costume

Also Modiphius is having a sale.
https://modiphius.us/collections/new-year-sale-2022/elder-scrolls_all-products

https://modiphius.net/collections/new-year-sale-2022/elder-scrolls_all-products

About 20% off for miniatures making them fairly in line with your average store but they have most of the line on sale and somethings (like the card packs) were hard to find a few months ago so worth a gander if you've been looking. Probably a bit better for the Fallout crowd as a good number of things in the sale have been hard to find in stores recently.

Some really good prices on older RPG books (infinity and John Carter) and Achtung Cthulhu stuff from the UK store. Really wish the John Carter miniatures got more love, including an adventure game mode like ES:CTA and Fallout, as the minis are great but the wargame light rules didn't do much for me (neither did the RPG light rules the book have converting things to the Conan Rules is the way to go if you do pick up the 2d20 stuff).

Also the Troll set and Giant spider just got released today as well.

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 Manchu wrote:
Digital only would be astonishingly lame and feel like a red flag for the product line.


Hello all. Gavin here.

Into the Dark has an interesting background. I always strive to be transparent, as those of you who follow my postings on Discord will know, so a little context will help. I think.

I'd had an idea that we wanted a procedural Quest generating system since we released that game. It was something we'd talked about during the very, very early days of discussing Thanehold, to generate threats as part of the whole settlement building system. We released Call to Arms in September 2020 and started to hear of disruptions to global shipping due to some new virus. 2021 came around and we all learnt around COVID-19.

Modiphius essentially shut down for a number of months as the whole country went into Lockdown. During this time Chris asked Mark Latham for a fast and dirty, quick turn-around procedural delve generator framework. It was always designed to be a non-core add-on - a way for the TES:CTA player to keep playing during Lockdown when you couldn't get together with friends.

It was also designed to be a framework that we can use to add additional modules on in future - Thanehold has a couple of new types of Delve and we have a couple of others in Histories of the Empire Volume 2.

As part of that idea that it was a base to build upon, we never envisaged that it would go into print. It has always been envisaged as a PDF download. That said, I have talked previously about my desire to do a deluxe, stand-alone rulebook that includes a load of additional vlaue add stuff, like painting guides, terrain guides consolidating all our PDF scenarios and Into the Dark.

We've also been looking at anthologies. I also work over our Achtung! Cthulhu line and we have a regular output of PDF adventures that we will likely consolidate into a print product, with some bonus content, and the same model would seem to be a logical for TES:CTA. Into the Dark also seems to be a good fit for just such a folio type publication, too.

So, Into The Dark likely won't be released on its own as a print product. Unless it is.

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 GavinDady wrote:
Unless it is.
Here’s hoping it is, maybe as part of Histories Volume 3 or something. Modiphius is still carving out its place in the minis gaming market and pdf/stl content might be fine for RPG lines but miniatures gamers are the most tactile.

   
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The Volkihar Vampire and the Dawnguard core sets have both gone up for pre-order to be released towards the end of July. No word yet on what will be in the Chapter 3 Bundle; the card set for Chapter 3 might not be around until August so that will presumably have an impact on the rollout of those. We know that there's at least a Bandit core and some further Vamp/Dawnguard sets to follow (with crossbows and dogs).

https://www.modiphius.net/collections/the-elder-scrolls-call-to-arms/products/the-elder-scrolls-call-to-arms-vampire-core-set

https://www.modiphius.net/collections/the-elder-scrolls-call-to-arms/products/the-elder-scrolls-call-to-arms-dawnguard-core-set

There's also a good few different bits of Dwemer terrain on the webstore now if anyone had missed them.
   
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Going by the picture on the previous page, am I correct in thinking that Serana comes in a box of adventurers which has yet to be released?

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 Geifer wrote:
Going by the picture on the previous page, am I correct in thinking that Serana comes in a box of adventurers which has yet to be released?


Yes, she'll be in an Adventurer set. If past record is anything to go on there'll possibly be 2 Adventurer sets for the Chapter and I seem to recall they came out a few months after the main launch.
   
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Thanks. Back to waiting, I guess.

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Patience has certainly been a virtue with this one. Nice to see that new stuff is starting to roll out again.

The updated rulebook is still being finalized in terms of layouts and last bits of editing before the digital version goes public (the print version is, sensibly IMO, coming after folks get their hands on it and can spot any potential errors).

There's some excellent rules expansions on the way; hopefully stuff like the Steam and Shadow book aren't too far off.
   
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To be fair Modiphius still releases models infinitely faster than I paint. I haven't really been in a fantasy mood lately and was hoping that Serana might help with that. One of the few Elder Scrolls characters I actually like.

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Haven't updated in a while and there's been a few new sets now gone up on sale/for pre-order:

Adventurer Fortune Hunters set, including a Dragonborn (in Ancient Falmer Armour) with 2 head options (one of which is a bit vampiric), Serana and some of the named bandit-related characters from Skyrim:
Spoiler:


Bandit Core set; a mixture of named leaders and some more general bandits who double up as thralls for Vampires:
Spoiler:


Dawnguard Stalwarts; filling out the named faction members and the war-huskies:
Spoiler:


Volkihar Inner Circle; adds in some higher ranked Volkihar vamps and one from outside the clan, along with Gargoyles
Spoiler:


Still waiting on an update for the rules for all of this; the Chapter 3 cards were still sat in approvals last I heard but least there's an outside chance I might catch up on the painting backlog before they hit the table.
   
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The trolls were also released a while ago, June I think, as I picked some up with a FWW order.

I enjoy the game but haven't been in the mood to play it as I was pretty involved in the Facebook group where all the drama happened that caused the rulebook rework and pausing of the game releases. All that dumb drama really burned me out on anything really associated with the game.

Not sure if I will ever play it again but I did like that it was, at least in relation to FWW, a beer and pretzel type of game. Super easy to set up and more streamlined play overall though I would have liked the games to have similar movement rules and LOC rules. I don't know why one is from the start of the base and the other center. Seams like an odd thing to change when you have games with similar mechanics that are based off of IP from the same company.
   
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This game did catch my eye but I was holding off until the rulebook was redone cause it sounded like a mess. If they released a bunch of dunmer in bone armor or ordinators and stuff i'd buy it just to collect though. Anything morrowind/dunmer related is just too cool to pass up.

 
   
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 Thargrim wrote:
This game did catch my eye but I was holding off until the rulebook was redone cause it sounded like a mess. If they released a bunch of dunmer in bone armor or ordinators and stuff i'd buy it just to collect though. Anything morrowind/dunmer related is just too cool to pass up.


It's no where near as bad as people have made it out to be. The people complaining the loudest really hadn't played a tabeltop game before and their biggest complaint were:
1) No errata should exist at all, if there is errata it's bad and a failed game (I wish I was kidding).
2) The game was too complex and rules too hard to follow as no game should take more then 1-2 playthroughs to fully learn.

There was a reasonable amount of errata, especially on cards but Modphius had been printing replacements for those, but nothing that if you played as printed would significantly change things. It really turned into a bit of a mob mentality as 2-3 people posted about it every day for weeks and that it was horrible and Modiphius needed to right this injustice (with no real constructive feedback on what to improve, just that it was bad most times). And since that was what most of the posts were everyone started to believe them and reworking the rulebook was about the only option they had at that point. And since Modiphius announced they were reworking the rules that lead everyone that heard the complaints to say "well it must be true then".

Since Modiphius is paying a lot for IP that are widely known to try and attract new blood into the hobby there's a good argument to be made that they should extend the rules a bit (which can be costly to even add 2-4 pages) to be a bit more handholdy (I see this need a lot on the Fallout Wasteland Warfare subreddit with new players) and verbose then they are -- but hardly a mess. Anyone that's use to RPGs, Complex boardgame or wargames in general will have no significant issues with the rules.

I think it's also fair to say Modiphius usually has and issue with cramming too many rules into too small of a book for their RPGs and the Fallout 2d20 RPG is kind of a mess sadly. It should have been two books with a slightly larger page count between the two but they did it in one (as expansions sell like 1/3rd what the core books do) and there's clearly areas where they just removed things (even important sentences leaving rules awkwardly written) to hit that page count and that game suffered because of it.

While the wargames have good rules but they're written for experienced players yet they're really targeting new players.

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 Thargrim wrote:
This game did catch my eye but I was holding off until the rulebook was redone cause it sounded like a mess. If they released a bunch of dunmer in bone armor or ordinators and stuff i'd buy it just to collect though. Anything morrowind/dunmer related is just too cool to pass up.


The rulebook update should be available before too long (was awaiting final layout a couple of months ago, not sure if it has to go through approvals still). One of the upcoming Chapters focuses on the Dragonborn DLC from Skyrim so there should certainly be some Bonemould-armed Dunmer in there.

 Monkeysloth wrote:
The trolls were also released a while ago, June I think, as I picked some up with a FWW order.

I enjoy the game but haven't been in the mood to play it as I was pretty involved in the Facebook group where all the drama happened that caused the rulebook rework and pausing of the game releases. All that dumb drama really burned me out on anything really associated with the game.

Not sure if I will ever play it again but I did like that it was, at least in relation to FWW, a beer and pretzel type of game. Super easy to set up and more streamlined play overall though I would have liked the games to have similar movement rules and LOC rules. I don't know why one is from the start of the base and the other center. Seams like an odd thing to change when you have games with similar mechanics that are based off of IP from the same company.


The Trolls were released in January (time flies...).

Ah that one weird day in the FB group... Actually felt bad for the guy who made the initial post as their concerns about the rules layout were fairly reasonable and polite; it was just escalated by one or two people into something ridiculous.

From what I can gather, the change to front of base movement/range etc. was to make CtA more straightforward and in line with typical wargaming movement (melee combat is also fairly streamlined compared to FO:WW).
   
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Melee is about the same (though no equivalent to FWW battlecry/charge/pushback system that I remember). Ranged is simpler as you don't have a long/short range that have different damage and cover is different.

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 Monkeysloth wrote:
Melee is about the same (though no equivalent to FWW battlecry/charge/pushback system that I remember). Ranged is simpler as you don't have a long/short range that have different damage and cover is different.


Indeed, it's the removal of Battlecry and charge (and generally a bit less reliance on icons and symbols to convey special effects for weapons) that streamline the melee process. How armour works also involves less rolling of dice.

Ranged weapons in CtA absolutely do have short/long ranges with different damages/effects; those respective differences are just based on flat numerical range rather than the coloured bands though (and, again, less reliance on icons) so generally feel a bit more efficient in how that information is conveyed.
   
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The Modcon 2022 stream had a fairly hefty chunk of reveals for Call to Arms to round out the Chapter 3 content (will update with images as and when).

Dawnguard Vampire Hunters - a more 'rank and file' Dawnguard set with 3x Dawnguard with Warhammers and 3x Dawnguard Scouts with Crossbows.

Vampire Fledgelings - 3x Volkihar Vampire Fledgelings and 3x Death Hounds. Supposed to represent more of a random encounter you'd find out in the wilds of Skyrim rather than the more powerful named Vampires.

Bandit Pillagers - Mixture of (even more) named Bandit leaders and some core Bandits with axe and shield.

Bandit Outlaws - 3x Bandits with Bows 3x Bandits with Two-Handed Axes.

Spriggans (were revealed previously but not mentioned here yet; not available on the main Modiphius store just yet):
Spoiler:


Spriggan Matriarch:
Spoiler:


Chapter 3 Promo model is a Wolf Familiar in clear blue resin (maybe one day it can come in normal resin too...).

Teased for the future with some 3d renders were a Giant and an unmasked Dragon Priest (the latter of which is to go alongside the next Chapter: Rise of the Dragon Priests

Chapter 3 cards are still with approvals but going forward, they're adapting to the same release method as Fallout WW with the punch-sleeve cards and an accompanying source book.
   
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Hello folks

Quick update on all things TES:CTA.

Chapter 3 cards are through layout and about to go to print. There's a whole proofing/approval cycle to do, but we're seeing good progress.

Core rulebook rewrite is in layout now and changes have been approved by Bethesda in super fast time, which is really great. Its a lot of layout work, so this may not appear soon, but its being worked on.

Histories of the Empire: Volume 2 Steam and Shadow is with the editors now. I'll update ETA as we see how much editing the editor needs to edit.

That's all for now.

G.
   
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 GavinDady wrote:
Hello folks

Quick update on all things TES:CTA.

Chapter 3 cards are through layout and about to go to print. There's a whole proofing/approval cycle to do, but we're seeing good progress.

Core rulebook rewrite is in layout now and changes have been approved by Bethesda in super fast time, which is really great. Its a lot of layout work, so this may not appear soon, but its being worked on.

Histories of the Empire: Volume 2 Steam and Shadow is with the editors now. I'll update ETA as we see how much editing the editor needs to edit.

That's all for now.

G.

Great news!
Will there be a proofreadable version of the rewritten rulebook before it's finalised? One thing the internet hivemind is good for is spotting errors.

   
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 Hanskrampf wrote:
 GavinDady wrote:
Hello folks

Quick update on all things TES:CTA.

Chapter 3 cards are through layout and about to go to print. There's a whole proofing/approval cycle to do, but we're seeing good progress.

Core rulebook rewrite is in layout now and changes have been approved by Bethesda in super fast time, which is really great. Its a lot of layout work, so this may not appear soon, but its being worked on.

Histories of the Empire: Volume 2 Steam and Shadow is with the editors now. I'll update ETA as we see how much editing the editor needs to edit.

That's all for now.

G.

Great news!
Will there be a proofreadable version of the rewritten rulebook before it's finalised? One thing the internet hivemind is good for is spotting errors.


It's going to be available as a PDF for community feedback prior to it going to physical print so should be plenty of opportunity for proofing like that.
   
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Latest blog post with a progress update on some significant releases:

https://www.modiphius.net/blogs/news/anyway-as-i-was-saying

Chapter 3. Cards are available for pre-order and should be shipping towards the end of the month, alongside the last of the Dawnguard and Vampire sets. There's also the bundles going up for pre-order this Friday with the clear-resin Wolf Familiar as the promotional model.

Spoiler:


Spoiler:


The updated rulebook is fairly imminent, with the final version coming down the line after a period of public feedback. The next couple of Histories of the Empire tomes are also well into development (Book 2 is basically written, just needs to go into layouts; it has some very fun content in it).

Dragon rules needed more playtesting apparently so they're not coming just yet.

End of the article also offers some pretty clear hints as to what's coming after the Draugr in Chapter 4 (something, something werewolves...) and showing off one of the named characters for Winterhold.

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Should also note that, like Fallout WW, Call to Arms is very likely to be moving to blank plastic bases in the future rather than the detailed resin ones. Chapter 5 onwards was mentioned as the likely switchover.
   
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Bundles for the Chapter 3 sets are now available. Some good savings in there if you can live with the shipping costs (which are apparently out of Modiphius' control). Comes with the Wolf Familiar promotional model in clear resin.

https://www.modiphius.net/collections/the-elder-scrolls-call-to-arms?page=1&sort_by=created-descending

   
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MM sale. Not sure about the price, but good selection?
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/sale?start=384&sort=title+asc&sort=title%20asc&utm_campaign=march-madness-sale

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Looks a good price to me, though it's not my market. Selection is likewise good. The on-sale items are basically the most recent waves of releases (bar the very last one which might only just be making its way through the U.S. stock chain with the new warehouse).

Dawnguard/Vampire sets are obviously quite specific faction pieces (and lovely models at that) but those Bandit sets are just great buys for anyone playing the game; they have multiple uses just within the Chapter 3. cards as well as just being generally useful Skyrim models.
   
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Would pick these up tthese prices but …

… I already have them lol!

   
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Some new developments for Call to Arms:

A new Starter Set which doesn't offer anything 'new' but bundles the previous rules/cards/dice alongside the associated miniatures and the Ethereal Dragonborn promotional model.



The first wave of Chapter 4 sets have also made an appearance.

Draugr Scourges (Draugr should be getting rules as a playable faction for the first time in this Chapter):



Plus the College of Winterhold gets a core set with some of the major players of their questlines:



The revised rulebook is also currently available for download and player feedback. Rules themselves haven't altered dramatically but they've looked to improve the layout and ease of access. The Adversary (AI) rules have had some slight tweaks to give them a bit more opportunity to activate and be more reactive to the players.
   
 
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