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The Battle Barge Buffet Line

Is his head smaller with the helmet on? Did the squats perfect timey wimey wibbley wobbley tech during the Dark Age of Technology to make headgear that is bigger on the inside? :0

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That's an Ironkin I'm pretty sure

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Maybe that's not a helmet but instead a custom MoI head? Like when they get high-enough rank they give themselves a more elaborate faceplate then discount among us.
   
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I remember a while back some were saying that having the Votann head logo GW are using to represent the Kin placed on the models somewhere wouldn't fit them because they're not a unified civilization / army and such, so it just wouldn't make sense to have that symbol on them.

...well now we have a large version of that quite clearly visible the shoulderpad of the Kahl as decoration.

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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
That's an Ironkin I'm pretty sure


I hadn't thought of that. I thought the ironkin was the floaty obvious robot in earlier art.

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Love this guy- the helmet looks especially awesome. It being a multipart kit is brilliant and there's more options than what we have seen. I was really hoping for something like the Autarch kit/cannoness kit so this looks promising.
The art is really great as well-looks like there's an army standard bearer coming too. Wondering if that art is the codex cover.
   
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 Geifer wrote:


To be fair, unlike the transhuman super soldier the space dwarf actually has a reason for a voluminous belly.

Oh yeah, totally agree, but putting that illustration next to the gravis captain, the similarity is just hilarious. Same pose, same type of gorget, same belly, same gauntlet, hell even his coat match the captain cape.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I keep seeing so many people saying "The Leagues are just short space Marines" but I really don't see it myself. They both have slightly curved armour, but outside of that they aren't really similar at all.

They don't really look like 40k Space marine... except in some situations (but that's more GW insane lack of creativity when it comes to poses at work tbh), but they do look a LOT like Starcraft 2 marines.

 silverstu wrote:
Love this guy- the helmet looks especially awesome. It being a multipart kit is brilliant and there's more options than what we have seen. I was really hoping for something like the Autarch kit/cannoness kit so this looks promising.

It's says long about current GW that getting proper multipart kit for HQ is considered brilliant and not the bare minimum anymore.

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 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I remember a while back some were saying that having the Votann head logo GW are using to represent the Kin placed on the models somewhere wouldn't fit them because they're not a unified civilization / army and such, so it just wouldn't make sense to have that symbol on them.

...well now we have a large version of that quite clearly visible the shoulderpad of the Kahl as decoration.


Maybe the Kin don't get to wear ancestral decorations unless they have ancestors - most clones wouldn't have anything, and maybe the commanders are those who've actually descended from a hero? To steal a Dark Eldar term, the commanders are the Trueborn, or at least second generation clones?
   
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 Shakalooloo wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I remember a while back some were saying that having the Votann head logo GW are using to represent the Kin placed on the models somewhere wouldn't fit them because they're not a unified civilization / army and such, so it just wouldn't make sense to have that symbol on them.

...well now we have a large version of that quite clearly visible the shoulderpad of the Kahl as decoration.


Maybe the Kin don't get to wear ancestral decorations unless they have ancestors - most clones wouldn't have anything, and maybe the commanders are those who've actually descended from a hero? To steal a Dark Eldar term, the commanders are the Trueborn, or at least second generation clones?


It's been implied that the whole "The Ancestors are always watching" idea is something throughout Kin society, so I don't think that's the case.

The point is though that some said the faction logo wouldn't make sense on the models, but there it is. So it must have some relevance to the Leagues as a society overall.

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Given my personal dislike of too many unhelmeted heads on the battlefield, maybe more Kin heads can be painted like that Kahl's helmet, to represent helmets that are a custom facial cast of the wearer?

Also, it seems they are really sporting a lot of animal motifs. The art has two standards with boar and ram respectively. Wonder if they'll get around to explaining why. I hope it's a little something more than "those animals are stubborn and hard headed, just like us".

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 Shakalooloo wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I keep seeing so many people saying "The Leagues are just short space Marines" but I really don't see it myself. They both have slightly curved armour, but outside of that they aren't really similar at all.


The art at the bottom of this latest article has two troopers in the foreground, leaning forward so their backpacks look very similar to Astartes-style. Besides that one instance, yeah, I don't see it.


I agree, they wear armour and have stuff on their backs, but so do eldar troopers, doesn’t mean they look like marines. Clearly different vibe, their armour is more similar to the ad mech robots.


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 warboss wrote:
Is his head smaller with the helmet on? Did the squats perfect timey wimey wibbley wobbley tech during the Dark Age of Technology to make headgear that is bigger on the inside? :0



Even if it makes no sense that “helmet” looks cool to me. And I will likely be using it and saying it’s a helmet. U less there are other heads in the kit that I prefer.

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I really don't think that's a helmet after all. The armour design is very similar to the Hearthkin which suggests it's meant to use the big bubble astronaut helmets.

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 Mentlegen324 wrote:
I really don't think that's a helmet after all. The armour design is very similar to the Hearthkin which suggests it's meant to use the big bubble astronaut helmets.


Maybe it's a cyberhead? Maybe he is "spam in a can" with a little bit of brain tissue inside an inorganic cybernetic head replacement?
   
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I actually like him. That Stormbolter (which is probably belt-fed and also somehow a lever action revolver no doubt) is really cool.

 Togusa wrote:
... the same way Ubisoft constantly spams 'iconic' for crap they're trying to push into being iconic...
That is exactly what I was about to post.

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Also note this art. Right hand side in the foreground, one with a partial helmet, which I don’t think we’ve see before?

And we’re promised Heavy Weapons wielder next week.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Also note this art. Right hand side in the foreground, one with a partial helmet, which I don’t think we’ve see before?

And we’re promised Heavy Weapons wielder next week.




That's the "standard" helmet of the kins, the one that really amp up the "starcraft 2" ripoff look.
I'm starting to wonder if GW didn't realized how blatant it was and that's why they have inverted the usual ration of 1/10 unhlemet trooper in their showcase.

Comparing that artwork to the actual mini, once again for like the third time, it seems that the problem isn't really the LoV design, it's the garbage job the sculpted did to transpose thos designs in plastic.
Also, that red colorsheme looks way better than the Sons of Horus color sheme they have used so far ngl.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Also note this art. Right hand side in the foreground, one with a partial helmet, which I don’t think we’ve see before?

And we’re promised Heavy Weapons wielder next week.



We did, quite a few times
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and we've still got whoever that raven head from the rumour engine is acting as a badge of rank for (unless it's an alternate for todays bloke, and since they show the alternate head/weapon i think they'd show an alternate animal standard too if it was there)

 
   
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 (HN) wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Also note this art. Right hand side in the foreground, one with a partial helmet, which I don’t think we’ve see before?

And we’re promised Heavy Weapons wielder next week.




That's the "standard" helmet of the kins, the one that really amp up the "starcraft 2" ripoff look.
I'm starting to wonder if GW didn't realized how blatant it was and that's why they have inverted the usual ration of 1/10 unhlemet trooper in their showcase.


It's a full helmet with a visor though reminiscent of a Space Suit, and the Leagues have an armoured Astronaut aesthetic.
   
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 Mentlegen324 wrote:
It's a full helmet with a visor though reminiscent of a Space Suit, and the Leagues have an armoured Astronaut aesthetic.

Sure, if you take that detail alone that's a decent explanation. But if you put it in context with the rest of the design the similarities are too numerous to just chuck it too random coincidence.
   
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 (HN) wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
It's a full helmet with a visor though reminiscent of a Space Suit, and the Leagues have an armoured Astronaut aesthetic.

Sure, if you take that detail alone that's a decent explanation. But if you put it in context with the rest of the design the similarities are too numerous to just chuck it too random coincidence.


What other similarities do you mean? There's the curved style but I don't think that's really something unique or distinct enough to indicate it's intentional, especially when that seems to just be have GW Dwarfs are now with the Kharadron Overlords also having a curved style of armour.
   
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The full helmet is an ironkyn. But there are heads that have the visor down for the guy on right, at least for the elites.
   
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Just for comparison purposes. You can make your own conclusion, if course, but to me there is an awful lot of things that sound like ducks going on here.







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 Flinty wrote:
Just for comparison purposes. You can make your own conclusion, if course, but to me there is an awful lot of things that sound like ducks going on here.









So GW have ripped off a space marine rip-off.?? So really they are ripping them selves off?? Either way, not bothered, never okayed StarCraft and love the new squats. A lot.
   
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Kind of like this model.

Possibly said it before, but I hate these orange power weapons. I don't know if its the nature of the zoomed in shots, but it doesn't look right at all. Rather than looking like this bits powered up, it just looks like your sword/axe is made of orange plastic. Its the sort of thing they did in the 1990s, but there are better techniques now.

On the Starcraft Front, I don't really see it. Find closer ties to Gravis Armour. It might be that I'm used to marines being half a cm by half a cm big - occasionally covered by a green lightning bolt.

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They're supposed to be hot and glowing, looks about right to me, to be honest

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 Mentlegen324 wrote:

What other similarities do you mean? There's the curved style but I don't think that's really something unique or distinct enough to indicate it's intentional, especially when that seems to just be have GW Dwarfs are now with the Kharadron Overlords also having a curved style of armour.


I'm surprised you are asking that Mentlegen, you were there the first time the topic was brought up and discussed at length.
The exo-armour in particular bears way, WAY too many similarity with SC2 designs to be ignored. They look like a shorter version of a mix between the marauder and the marine, the Hearthkyn themselves look very, VERY SC2 marinish thanks to their guns that look pretty close to the oversized one SC2 marines have (and that's before even mentioning the helmet ofc.)
One of the most obvious to me is that little one that almost nobody ever talk about


That spine on the left, which is a very well known part of the SC2 marine design, thanks to the SC2 intro where you can clearly see it in the middle of that gearing up sequence (that was ripped off by GW later on when they ripped off the fanmade "Raptor" video that was itself literally a retake of the SC2 intro but in 40k).

I honestly don't want to get back into beating that dead horse, especially since you were here beating it with us at the time, it will just make the usual dense members here like Andy do their little baity song and dance again.

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Kind of like this model.

Possibly said it before, but I hate these orange power weapons. I don't know if its the nature of the zoomed in shots, but it doesn't look right at all. Rather than looking like this bits powered up, it just looks like your sword/axe is made of orange plastic. Its the sort of thing they did in the 1990s, but there are better techniques now.

Yeah, agree there. I see what they were going for, that "white hot iron" thing, but it just doesn't work, probably because they have done it way too cleanly and lazily.
If they had put a little more effort in there and follow something like what the Man Duncan did here (for the first style), thos weapons would look actually pretty cool and unique.



I think the biggest mistake they made was to edge highlight the thing in white rather than black. It totally kill the effect.

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 (HN) wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:

What other similarities do you mean? There's the curved style but I don't think that's really something unique or distinct enough to indicate it's intentional, especially when that seems to just be have GW Dwarfs are now with the Kharadron Overlords also having a curved style of armour.


I'm surprised you are asking that Mentlegen, you were there the first time the topic was brought up and discussed at length.
The exo-armour in particular bears way, WAY too many similarity with SC2 designs to be ignored. They look like a shorter version of a mix between the marauder and the marine, the Hearthkyn themselves look very, VERY SC2 marinish thanks to their guns that look pretty close to the oversized one SC2 marines have (and that's before even mentioning the helmet ofc.)
One of the most obvious to me is that little one that almost nobody ever talk about


That spine on the left, which is a very well known part of the SC2 marine design, thanks to the SC2 intro where you can clearly see it in the middle of that gearing up sequence (that was ripped off by GW later on when they ripped off the fanmade "Raptor" video that was itself literally a retake of the SC2 intro but in 40k).

I honestly don't want to get back into beating that dead horse, especially since you were here beating it with us at the time, it will just make the usual dense members here like Andy do their little baity song and dance again.



It was the Hearthkyn in particular that i was referring to as that was what was mentioned, I can certainly see the resemblance between the Einhyr and the Starcraft Marauder. There are similarities between the Hearthkyn and Marine with the helmet and generally curved bulky design being quite significant elements of both, but to me that partly feels like it's more so down to the armoured astronaut vibe they're going for than anything else. Not sure how they could really do that idea without there naturally being similarities. Still, you're right in that in context with the Einhyr maybe it's not just a coincidence.

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Did anyone else notice that in the artwork the Kahl is armed with an Ax AND a power fist? Is this going to lead to another one of those Elder Autarch situations where you can't legally build the guy in the artwork?

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