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Ok so the goal is the most Vps during a 12 hour session of warhammer. Here is the list I am thinking about:

Lords:
Grey Seer 240
+30 ward save

Warlord 90
+100 Fellblade

Heroes:
Plague priest 100
+150 Plague furnace
+30 Foul Pendant

Chieftain 45
+25 BSB
+2 Halberd

warlock engineer 15
+30 Doom rocket

Core:
39 Stormvermin 273
+25 command
+50 Storm banner

39 stormvermin
+25 command

20 clanrats 80
+10 shields
+55 ratling gun

20 clanrats 80
+10 shields
+55 ratling gun

Special:
40 plague monks 305
+25 command

Rare:
Hellpit Abomination 235
+15 Warpspikes

Doomwheel 150


INITIAL REMOVALS

first frew removals were Banner of clan superiority from the other storm vermin unit. Banner of the horned rat off the BSB. warp Lightining Cannon and two units of 40 slaves.

What I want in the list eventually

Ok here is things that I would like but mainly I need command on the clanrats.

wants:
Banner of clan superiority (30)
Banner of the horned rat (70)
Plague Banner (30)
lvl.2 plague priest upgrade (35)
plague censer on the plague priest (16)


The strat is obvious weaken as they reach me. THe warlord is to remove characters and own multi wound models. the Grey Seer is to cast the dreaded thirteenth spell and make units become mine XD. Everything else is fairly cut and dry skaven.



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I notice alot of views but not many posts

Quick warning, we're not supposed to list individual upgrade costs, just total unit cost.

A few (more helpful) thoughts:

1. I'd trade the halberd on the BSB for a shield. His job is to stick around, so your other rats stick around. Leave the killing to your other units.

2. Commands on your clan rats, at least a banner for the static +1 to combat res, will be extremely useful. Having a musician for the fast reform is also helpful, depending on what you're using your rats for.

3. I'm not a big fan of ratling guns, myself, because of the BS3 on weapon teams. Warpfire Throwers will cause a panic test on anything they wound and Poisoned Wind Mortars don't allow armor saves (as well as being move and fire). Granted, both of those options are more expensive.

4. Why remove the slaves? I find a unit of 40-50 with a musician can keep an enemy unit tied down for at least two turns while your ranged weapons / spells trash them.

Mmmm lot of issues with this list - is it really designed around being competitive? Couple notes:

1. Warlord - no armor, no saves, etc - fellblade really isn't worth it unless you think your going against ALOT of big nasties. Plus has the strong potential to kill himself and give up easy points.

2. Drop the halberd from the BSB - needs a better AS.

3. Stormvermin - almost worthless in the new edition. Str4, T3 with a 5+ save - they die waaaaay too easy.

4. Clanrat units need to be bigger - ratling guns got pretty much nerfed in the new edition.

5. No cannons? You really need that long range support.

6. No slaves either? They're pretty much a staple now when you figure in how cheap they are and if in range of the general/BSB - your looking at stubborn LD10 for almost the entire game!

7. I would invest in a power scroll for your Grey Seer - almost guarantees a Dreaded 13th going off, especially if you knock your opponent's general's unit or BSB unit or something down to 15 models or less. Characters on foot going poof with the rest of the unit came be a huge gamechanger.

8. No gutterrunners - really could use those for harassment/warmachine hunting.

Your looking to add more bonuses to units vice more units - Skaven need the numbers! At 2500 points and if I was your opponent, the only unit I'd be worried about would be the hellpit, which dies to cannons, fire spells, is random - still leaves opponent units steadfast as long as they have 5 models. I would see several armies tearing this one up in a tournment (depending on how competitive the lists are).

See Ive had bad luck with most other weapon teams except for my ratling guns. However my list currently only runs 160 models but uses a furnace and a bell. My only issues are against DE and occasionally Ogers if I roll poorly on spells