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Primogenitor was fantastic. Hoping this narrative focus also gets us some Bile and creations plastic kits at some point. (Though the Primaris Chaplain+Apothecary conversions of him are lovely too)

His little face! Beaming with glee!



I'm quite looking forward to Cadia Stands, the Emperor's Legion, Overlord of the Iron Dragon and both Elysian audio dramas myself.

 BrookM wrote:
His little face! Beaming with glee!

Spoiler:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Book 47: Old Earth.

Book. 47.

Ugh.

Let's go already!!!

Only three more to go after book 47, should be done* by this time next year at the latest if everybody** delivers their drafts on time!

*Those waiting on paperbacks the completion date will be sometime next decade.
**Isn't ADB doing book 50? Uh oh.

I should be just about finished reading through the existing Gaunt's Ghosts books by the time the new one shows up!

Has 50 books been confirmed? I know there's not many left but I'm pretty sure there's more than 3.

When Laurie was still there he semi confirmed 50 it at the last Black Library HH talk I went to, somebody else's notes on it: https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/5fjdp5/horus_heresy_weekender_2017_future_releases_for/ From memory the final books have been assigned to authors with their plot worked out.

I'd be surprised if they miss the official tally being 50 for the final siege book, very easy to do additional books that do not have a number, a raft of the novelettes do not have an official number and have been combined into a single numbered volume if at all. I'm also expecting them to keep HH as a setting once the siege has gone, plenty of stories at all stages in the overall arch still to tell.

I hope they do keep it as a setting, gives me hope we'll see further development of 40K pre- it's final recent shark jumping session.

Y'know they could be planning a relaunch with book 50. IE book 51 will be SIEGE OF TERRA Book 1.

After 10, 15 years a new brand name might be a good way to kick things up rather than a 3 book wind down.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Y'know they could be planning a relaunch with book 50. IE book 51 will be SIEGE OF TERRA Book 1.

After 10, 15 years a new brand name might be a good way to kick things up rather than a 3 book wind down.

That wasn't the impression they gave at the time, the main plot arc will finish with the battle between the Emperor and Horus and that should be book 50.

I can totally see more books covering the siege in greater detail from the angles of the other main players in the future, that is a no brainer for me. I absolutely do not want a ton of Siege of Terra books dragging out the story before we get the big battle between the Emperor and Horus.

The Primarch series will take another couple of years to complete and all of those so far are all set in the HH or slightly before HH so the setting will be carrying on in some form at least.

I can also see them doing a mini series (I hope it is a mini series, not a drawn out affair) for the Great Scouring more or less straight after.

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Y'know they could be planning a relaunch with book 50. IE book 51 will be SIEGE OF TERRA Book 1.

After 10, 15 years a new brand name might be a good way to kick things up rather than a 3 book wind down.

That wasn't the impression they gave at the time, the main plot arc will finish with the battle between the Emperor and Horus and that should be book 50.

I can totally see more books covering the siege in greater detail from the angles of the other main players in the future, that is a no brainer for me. I absolutely do not want a ton of Siege of Terra books dragging out the story before we get the big battle between the Emperor and Horus.

The Primarch series will take another couple of years to complete and all of those so far are all set in the HH or slightly before HH so the setting will be carrying on in some form at least.

I can also see them doing a mini series (I hope it is a mini series, not a drawn out affair) for the Great Scouring more or less straight after.

The impression I get from the most recent news/interviews is that the series was never set for exactly 50, and that the final number will be closer to 60.

The series will finish with a trilogy, which will, imo, most likely be written by ADB, McNeill and Abnett (in that order).

As long as the writing is of good quality, i'm happy for them to extend the HH series as long as possible.

byrd9999 wrote:


As long as the writing is of good quality, i'm happy for them to extend the HH series as long as possible.

Yeah, well, about that...

It is time to finish this up!

I'm confident that the final 3 books will be quite good, at least!

byrd9999 wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Y'know they could be planning a relaunch with book 50. IE book 51 will be SIEGE OF TERRA Book 1.

After 10, 15 years a new brand name might be a good way to kick things up rather than a 3 book wind down.

That wasn't the impression they gave at the time, the main plot arc will finish with the battle between the Emperor and Horus and that should be book 50.

I can totally see more books covering the siege in greater detail from the angles of the other main players in the future, that is a no brainer for me. I absolutely do not want a ton of Siege of Terra books dragging out the story before we get the big battle between the Emperor and Horus.

The Primarch series will take another couple of years to complete and all of those so far are all set in the HH or slightly before HH so the setting will be carrying on in some form at least.

I can also see them doing a mini series (I hope it is a mini series, not a drawn out affair) for the Great Scouring more or less straight after.

The impression I get from the most recent news/interviews is that the series was never set for exactly 50, and that the final number will be closer to 60.

The series will finish with a trilogy, which will, imo, most likely be written by ADB, McNeill and Abnett (in that order).

As long as the writing is of good quality, i'm happy for them to extend the HH series as long as possible.

Eh... Mcneil's working for LoL now, I doubt he will do anything for blacklibrary (he hasn't for quite a few years now)

Lord Kragan wrote:

byrd9999 wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Y'know they could be planning a relaunch with book 50. IE book 51 will be SIEGE OF TERRA Book 1.

After 10, 15 years a new brand name might be a good way to kick things up rather than a 3 book wind down.

That wasn't the impression they gave at the time, the main plot arc will finish with the battle between the Emperor and Horus and that should be book 50.

I can totally see more books covering the siege in greater detail from the angles of the other main players in the future, that is a no brainer for me. I absolutely do not want a ton of Siege of Terra books dragging out the story before we get the big battle between the Emperor and Horus.

The Primarch series will take another couple of years to complete and all of those so far are all set in the HH or slightly before HH so the setting will be carrying on in some form at least.

I can also see them doing a mini series (I hope it is a mini series, not a drawn out affair) for the Great Scouring more or less straight after.

The impression I get from the most recent news/interviews is that the series was never set for exactly 50, and that the final number will be closer to 60.

The series will finish with a trilogy, which will, imo, most likely be written by ADB, McNeill and Abnett (in that order).

As long as the writing is of good quality, i'm happy for them to extend the HH series as long as possible.

Eh... Mcneil's working for LoL now, I doubt he will do anything for blacklibrary (he hasn't for quite a few years now)

Two 30k books this year from McNeill isn't bad going for someone who hasn't done anything for quite a few years

He has said he will still write freelance for BL. The books will come slower, but there's still a window for him, and i doubt he'd turn down the chance to finish what he started.

byrd9999 wrote:
The impression I get from the most recent news/interviews is that the series was never set for exactly 50, and that the final number will be closer to 60.

The series will finish with a trilogy, which will, imo, most likely be written by ADB, McNeill and Abnett (in that order).

As long as the writing is of good quality, i'm happy for them to extend the HH series as long as possible.

50 was the rough number defined when they started the series, it went up dramatically, as high as 100 with some of the estimates when they started padding out the series with the side stories, but by the time Laurie was leaving it was back to (about) 50 as the preferred target for the final boss battle. If it has gone up to 60 that is a recent change from even this year's HH weekender from the official line, as that would have been another 15/16 books from that point in time. I'm not counting any books that come after the boss battle in my 50 books, I'd expect the series to always exist in some form even decades from now.

Lord Kragan wrote:

byrd9999 wrote:

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Y'know they could be planning a relaunch with book 50. IE book 51 will be SIEGE OF TERRA Book 1.

After 10, 15 years a new brand name might be a good way to kick things up rather than a 3 book wind down.

That wasn't the impression they gave at the time, the main plot arc will finish with the battle between the Emperor and Horus and that should be book 50.

I can totally see more books covering the siege in greater detail from the angles of the other main players in the future, that is a no brainer for me. I absolutely do not want a ton of Siege of Terra books dragging out the story before we get the big battle between the Emperor and Horus.

The Primarch series will take another couple of years to complete and all of those so far are all set in the HH or slightly before HH so the setting will be carrying on in some form at least.

I can also see them doing a mini series (I hope it is a mini series, not a drawn out affair) for the Great Scouring more or less straight after.

The impression I get from the most recent news/interviews is that the series was never set for exactly 50, and that the final number will be closer to 60.

The series will finish with a trilogy, which will, imo, most likely be written by ADB, McNeill and Abnett (in that order).

As long as the writing is of good quality, i'm happy for them to extend the HH series as long as possible.

Eh... Mcneil's working for LoL now, I doubt he will do anything for blacklibrary (he hasn't for quite a few years now)

he just had/did the Crimson King, he's still involved.

https://www.trackofwords.com/2017/09/06/gav-thorpe-talks-twenty-years-of-black-library-part-two/

part 2 of the Gav Thorpe interview

Have the novellas Masque of Vyle and The Carnac Campaign been released in collections?

Only in e-format AFAIK.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/11/the-flesh-tithe/

another SoB e-story.

 Alpharius wrote:

BL just needs to get this whole thing to the finish line and then write about 'current' stuff more, maybe....

If Dark Imperium is any indication of the standard of their 'current' stuff these days, I'm not so sure they do...

OK then, they need to write WELL about "current" stuff more!

I'd like some well done books about the Great Crusade and Pre-Unification Wars Earth, and...the Unification Wars too!

 insaniak wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

BL just needs to get this whole thing to the finish line and then write about 'current' stuff more, maybe....

If Dark Imperium is any indication of the standard of their 'current' stuff these days, I'm not so sure they do...

Agree, I'm a big fan of Haley and i found Dark Imperium the most boring book I've read in ages. One or two glimpses of goodness but they were rare.

I'm finding myself not much of a fan on the new settings so I would much prefer to see 'historical' books coming out. But who knows if quality changes

Well, okay..?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/13/coming-soon-a-new-eisenhorn-novel/

We are delighted to announce that as part of next year’s celebration of all things Black Library (which includes reprints of two classic novels voted for by you), we’ll be releasing a brand new novel by Dan Abnett. And not just any novel… The Magos is a new entry in one of the best loved Warhammer 40,000 series of all time: Eisenhorn.



It’s been fifteen years since rogue Inquisitor Gregor Eisenhorn last appeared in a novel of his own, and five since his appearance in Pariah, the first book in a sequel trilogy that brings him together with his old acolyte Gideon Ravenor. So how did The Magos come about? Here’s Dan Abnett himself to shed some light:

“The Magos is a brand new Eisenhorn novel… and one I didn’t expect to write. This epic volume gathers together all the Eisenhorn short stories that have appeared over the years, several of which haven’t been in print before. But it’s not just an anthology for completists. There’s an entire, new, full-length novel here too, one which ties together many elements from those short stories to become the unexpected fourth book in what was previously the Eisenhorn trilogy. Hunting for heresy in the remote worlds of the Imperium, Gregor Eisenhorn must confront the truth about himself: who is the real heretic? And, in this life-or-death struggle, who is the hunter and who is the hunted? Essential reading for all fans of the Eisenhorn and Ravenor series.” – Dan

Thank you, Dan. We can’t wait to get our hands on this new novel, and thankfully, it’s not going to be too long a wait, as we can expect to have it in our hands in February 2018. Before then, we have more to look forward to from Dan, with The Warmaster, the fourteenth book in the Gaunt’s Ghosts series, coming in December. At the Black Library Weekender in November, you’ll be able to get your hands on The Warmaster early, and meet Dan Abnett to get it signed – plus, he’s also doing a seminar talking about the new Eisenhorn book. An excellent opportunity to be among the first to find out more about it!

There goes the release date for the next book in Eisenhorn v. Ravenor!

All kidding aside, this one does sound good too, of course!

It's annoying, but I am enough of a whore for the franchise that I will pick it up regardless. Though I will be awaiting this one with low expectations for sure.

His later revisits to Gaunts Ghosts and the Ravenor series disappointed me. I think I'll wait for reviews...and then buy the paperback.

 BrookM wrote:
I really, really hope this becomes a more regular audio drama series:



This one was excellent!

I really hope those become miniatures.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/BL-weekender-2017.html

few more people etc etc announced.


Note the HH end game stuff, think we can safely say it won't be over in 50 books.

 reds8n wrote:
http://www.blacklibrary.com/BL-weekender-2017.html

few more people etc etc announced.


Note the HH end game stuff, think we can safely say it won't be over in 50 books.

I'm not getting that from the vague statement on the BL flyer? It reads like they are more discussing previous books and how they will/could influence the Siege, if anything you could read it that all the important books are already out and that the Siege is next

The road to Terra - The Horus Hersey enters its final stages. With the end near, the authors of the Horus Hersey discuss key titles in the series so far and how they build up to and could influence the inconic Siege of Terra.

I would expect the rough number to be confirmed at the weekender. If it is 60 then we are looking at another 3 years or so of HH books at the current (slow) publishing rate, I'd be mighty off if that is the case as that is a lifetime away.

December has Old Earth coming out which is book 47 - there's no way HH finishes at book 50.

They still have to do the Death Guard release with them turning fully, I imagine they'll do at least one or two more anthologies which will be numbered as well. They'll do a few books setting up the siege and the initial stages of it and then as someone else mentioned, a trilogy to round it out.

I predict 65 numbered novels in the series by the end.

So, another 3 years, give or take?

 Alpharius wrote:

zerosignal wrote:
I've just finished Praetorian of Dorn, which I thought was absolutely fantastic. John French really writes well.

You're dead to me.

[adds zerosignal to The List.]

zerosignal wrote:

I bought the Garro collected one, Swallow isn't a great writer but I quite liked Flight of the Eisenstein and bolter porn is bolter porn, so...

BL just needs to get this whole thing to the finish line and then write about 'current' stuff more, maybe...

Or explore the Great Crusade, or the Unification Wars, or pre-Unification Earth or something...

Unification Wars would be amazing, I would jump on that in an instant! Thunder Warriors ho! Pre-unification Earth would also be pretty great, but it would be hard to do justice to the Dark Age of Technology for example...

 foostick wrote:
December has Old Earth coming out which is book 47 - there's no way HH finishes at book 50.

They still have to do the Death Guard release with them turning fully, I imagine they'll do at least one or two more anthologies which will be numbered as well. They'll do a few books setting up the siege and the initial stages of it and then as someone else mentioned, a trilogy to round it out.

I predict 65 numbered novels in the series by the end.

Book 46 is Ruinstorm, which should put Guilliman, Lion, and the Angel exactly where they are needed for the Siege, Black Library tag it: "It's an explosive end to the Imperium Secundus storyline and sees the march to Terra and that final battle begin in earnest.".

Book 47 is Old Earth as you say, that puts at least Vulkan where he is needed for the Siege, Black Library even tag it with "It's the final stage in Vulkan's journey.,, following his own barely understood path all the way to the Throneworld itself.".

Praetorian of Dorn dealt with Alpharius, obviously Dorn never left the Solar System. That is six out of 17 Primarchs still alive. Horus, Lorgar, Mortarion,Fulgrim, Angron, Perturabo, Curze, and Magnus will likely all turn up together in a single book, my guess is the start of the Siege but it could be it's own book. That leaves Khan needing a route back for the classic line up. Corax will likely be left where he is for now, but Russ needs a book to bring him back into play for the final stages of the Siege.

So after Vulkan's book, at most I'd expect to see one book on Morty, one on Russ, one on Khan (although I suspect his will be combined with Russ), may be one on the traitor Primarchs final trip, then the Siege. I really can't see another ten to fifteen books before the Siege, that would be so much padding.

I could totally see the Siege being more than one book, one from the loyalist perspective and one from the traitor perspective would be pretty cool, released as a nice double set.

The White Scars are on Terra.