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2010/12/16 03:11:08
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
New Iberia, Louisiana, USA
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Just had this issue in a game still going on. I held the army in reserve and moved on during my third turn with a Wave Serpent. As part of my move, I tank shocked a bunch of Jetbikes. The Jetbikes used "Death or Glory!" with a blaster, and immobilized my skimmer. It was halfway on the board, leaving it's ass-end off the table. Even if it could move, there was no way it could pivot to get onto the table. I immediately went into a depressed state and simply called it "destroyed" along with 252 points of my army.
How would you guys resolve it? The same way? Entirely different?
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Current Race - Eldar 
Record with Eldar 1-0-2 (W-L-D)
Last game was a DRAW against DARK ELDAR.
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2010/12/16 03:12:58
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Per the new Main Rules FAQ it is indeed destroyed(along with any unit inside)
Let me dig up the Quote for you...
Found it: "Q: What happens when a unit arrives from reserves but is
unable to completely move onto the board? (p94)
A: The unit is destroyed and removed from play."
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/12/16 03:15:52
This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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2010/12/16 03:32:30
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Kel's on the Ball with the new FAQ it and it's contents are now gone
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2010/12/16 09:39:11
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Depending on the Vehicle, wave serpent fro example. Would you use the base to measure this, or the hull?
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2010/12/16 09:52:40
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The hull. THe base is ignored except for assaults on skimmers.
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2010/12/16 11:39:44
Subject: Re:Models not quite on the Board
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Nervous Accuser
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As its been stated already you did correct in counting it as destroyed.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/12/16 11:40:53
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2010/12/16 14:40:44
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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Furious Fire Dragon
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What have we learned Dorothy? Make sure your army gets on the table.
Homer
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The only "hobby" GW is interested in is lining their pockets with your money.
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2010/12/16 18:51:08
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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Yep. Don't tank shock through the model with the blaster.
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2010/12/16 22:58:23
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mannahnin wrote:Yep. Don't tank shock through the model with the blaster.
Especially with a Skimmer who can just fly over them anyway.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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2010/12/16 23:07:15
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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Pulsating Possessed Space Marine of Slaanesh
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DarknessEternal wrote:Mannahnin wrote:Yep. Don't tank shock through the model with the blaster.
Especially with a Skimmer who can just fly over them anyway.
What he said. I couldn't help but let a little chuckle over your misfortune. Why did you tankshock instead of fly over? I play Dark Eldar and have played Eldar and can't think of a single reason I would tankshock with a unit coming from reserves.
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2010/12/16 23:10:59
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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[DCM]
Tilter at Windmills
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If it's a unit subject to LD tests, it can be a chance of basically killing them without ever having to shoot or assault them. Tank shocking is good stuff.
Just don't do it over a model with an antitank weapon and risk losing your tank plus the squad inside!
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Adepticon 2015: Team Tourney Best Imperial Team- Team Ironguts, Adepticon 2014: Team Tourney 6th/120, Best Imperial Team- Cold Steel Mercs 2, 40k Championship Qualifier ~25/226
More 2010-2014 GT/Major RTT Record (W/L/D) -- CSM: 78-20-9 // SW: 8-1-2 (Golden Ticket with SW), BA: 29-9-4 6th Ed GT & RTT Record (W/L/D) -- CSM: 36-12-2 // BA: 11-4-1 // SW: 1-1-1
DT:70S++++G(FAQ)M++B++I+Pw40k99#+D+++A+++/sWD105R+++T(T)DM+++++
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The 40K Rulebook & Codex FAQs. You should have these bookmarked if you play this game.
The Dakka Dakka Forum Rules You agreed to abide by these when you signed up.
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2010/12/17 01:21:12
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
New Iberia, Louisiana, USA
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On a side note, if I had tank shocked a different point in the unit (it was spaced out thin), would the model actually hit have to make the Death or Glory, or can any model do it?
Also, I don't think I could've got far enough onto the table to still disembark my troops (which I wanted to do). At any rate, I got him back by ramming his Razorwing Jetfighters with my other Serpents, blowing them to smithereens (as well as one Prism that had lost it's cannon). Hehehehe...I found a new favorite tactic against DE!
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DS:80+S+G++M---B--IPw40k10#+D++A/eWD-R+T(D)DM+
Current Race - Eldar
Record with Eldar 1-0-2 (W-L-D)
Last game was a DRAW against DARK ELDAR.
I shake your hand and say "Good Game". How are you a good sport? |
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2010/12/17 01:29:01
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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Making Stuff
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TheRedArmy wrote:On a side note, if I had tank shocked a different point in the unit (it was spaced out thin), would the model actually hit have to make the Death or Glory, or can any model do it?
The DoG rules specify that it has to be a model in the vehicle's path.
Some players do interpret that to mean that, since the unit is being affected as a whole, technically any model in the unit is in the vehicle's path. Sort of.
Restricting it to individual models actually in the vehicle's path would stay closer to the actual RAW, though, IMO.
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2010/12/17 01:42:51
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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insaniak wrote:TheRedArmy wrote:On a side note, if I had tank shocked a different point in the unit (it was spaced out thin), would the model actually hit have to make the Death or Glory, or can any model do it?
The DoG rules specify that it has to be a model in the vehicle's path.
Some players do interpret that to mean that, since the unit is being affected as a whole, technically any model in the unit is in the vehicle's path. Sort of.
Restricting it to individual models actually in the vehicle's path would stay closer to the actual RAW, though, IMO.
^this
It's how we always play it.
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2010/12/17 08:25:49
Subject: Models not quite on the Board
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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This was a big debate until the FAQ cleared it up.
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