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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 15:50:08
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I had an idea for an army, and I think it is plausible fluff wise but I want to check around to be sure. The idea is a turned inquisitor using demons to do their bidding. I understand demonhostsarehard to make as it is, but iirc that is something the good guys do. I am talking an inquisitor so turned she has very mild demonette features and is infamous, not trying to hide her allegiance but striking with brute force.
Another more specific question, I thought it would be interesting and befitting her personality to have a (forge world sized for coolness) khorne greater demon enslaved. Is this fluffwise possible? I thought about integrating a base slot for the =|= in the demons base and have a slender chain go from it's neck to her hand. Not needed, but symbolic of her bragging of having such a pet. I also considered giving the demon a mask and slaaneshi armor sculpting for added insult.
Plausible/interesting idea? Automatically Appended Next Post: Also please excuse the bad spacing, typing on a phone and it's such a pain...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 16:54:21
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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From what I've read, Inquisitors do not actually use physical Daemons to do their bidding. Instead, they will bind the Daemon's essence to a mortal being or an object, almost creating a Daemon Weapon in some circumstances. Have a look at any info on Inquisitor Quixos, as he was dubious for Daemon essences. However, if you go with this in your army, then you'll have to go with Radical DH, no no Grey Knights for you! In fact, if you get caught by the Puritan DH, you won't just be executed, youll be executed, immolated, and then fired into a star, just to make sure you're really dead
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 18:35:15
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
York/London(for weekends) oh for the glory of the british rail industry
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you would have to use codex:chaos so no actual inquisitor stuff and to be openly a chaos follower they would be hunted into one of the warp storms.
they'ed no longer be an inquisitor
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Relictors: 1500pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 18:37:49
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Right from what I have read I understand loyal inquisitors are limited to temporary binding by both the law and possibly ability. And even that is seen as heretical by many.
But keep in mind this would be an inqusitor who is quite tainted and turned. No hiding that she is no longer in the inquisition. And definitely no grey knights. In fact I'm planning on using the demon book.
So I guess to refine the question it isn't so much would an inquisitor do it, it's a question of is it plausible a slaaneshi demon princess could enslave a demon of khorne. Maybe the fact she is ex =I= is irrelevant. If it is sketchy I was hoping the modeled pink mask and armor would grease the wheels of plausibility. Whether they are an artifact or a more powerful slaaneshi demon bound in reality whose sole purpose is to enslave the demon could be up to the viewer. I like the latter better though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 21:37:16
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
York/London(for weekends) oh for the glory of the british rail industry
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well if you follow the good old fluff slannesh hates khrone , khrone hates slannesh. if you follow the 'rip apart good canon so an army can sell better' codex: chaos daemons then you can.
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Relictors: 1500pts
its safe to say that relictors are the greatest army a man , nay human can own.
I'm cancelling you out of shame like my subscription to White Dwarf. - Mark Corrigan: Peep Show
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 21:41:47
Subject: Re:Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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It seems possibly, but I don't think Khorne would let it stand for very long.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 21:47:50
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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An Inquisitor-turned-heretic, if they were originally a Radical, would definitely know how to summon deamons (actually, all DH would, if only to interrupt them), and may be able to encourage a tear in reality for the warp to spill through. Though I don't know if the deamons would appreciate her efforts.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 21:50:11
Subject: Re:Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Stormin' Stompa
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Maybe a lesser demon, but I doubt a greater demon ( unless the ex inquisitor was a way more powerful demon but w/e)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/20 21:54:33
Subject: Re:Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Stormin' Stompa
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You can make "deals" with daemons, but unless you're a powerful psyker, you can't enslave them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 15:17:43
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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BluntmanDC wrote:well if you follow the good old fluff slannesh hates khrone , khrone hates slannesh. if you follow the 'rip apart good canon so an army can sell better' codex: chaos daemons then you can.
This. I personally find it a travesty, but I'm old school when it comes to chaos. According to what you can do with the new codex it could happen...fluff wise though, I wouldn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 19:27:01
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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It is definately possible. Most DH, even puritans, would have the knowledge to summon. Normally the daemons would destroy the inquisitor as soon as they were summoned but there are ways to control daemons. In the SW codex it mentions an inquisitor forcing a daemon to attack itself. While it would be hard to give them exact directions she could probably aim them at target and they would do the destroying for her.
As for have a pet greater daemon thats a bit harder, getting near any bloodthirster is a bad idea, even if you are controlling it. Daemons are very hard to control so you would want to keep distance in case it broke free. A lesser daemon would make a lot more sense, as they can be held easily by binding them in anti daemonic materials. They would still make very good trophies as in the fluff even small daemons are scary. A caged tzeentch daemon would fit as they would make useful advisors- if you get the truth out of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 20:47:15
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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Of course, the inquisitor could just summon an army of the fellows, take a good few steps back, and let them take care of any opposition. (Likely the force hunting her down, or the forces barring the way to some juciy arcane item ect).
She doesn't necessarily have to enslave them, just offer a deal or exhuast them against the foe.
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After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/21 23:31:44
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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Very true. A small daemonic incursion would be enough to complete a task and give her time to escape while the imperium fights to control the daemons, which would be much a much higher priority.
Chances are that she would have a permanant human force and uses daemons when neccessary.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/22 07:35:56
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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The only problem would be how to represent her with on the field with the army. Perhaps using Fateweaver? Powerful psyker powers (befitting that needed to summon and enforce even the most basic commands on deamons), and leaving the field when taking a wound represents her bodyguards carrying her off when wounded. Or having the sense to go while the goings good.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/22 15:52:27
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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Maybe as a herald. If she goes to battle with a "pet" daemon then it could fit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/22 16:43:21
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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GW Public Relations Manager (Privateer Press Mole)
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GMMStudios wrote:Right from what I have read I understand loyal inquisitors are limited to temporary binding by both the law and possibly ability. And even that is seen as heretical by many.
But keep in mind this would be an inqusitor who is quite tainted and turned. No hiding that she is no longer in the inquisition. And definitely no grey knights. In fact I'm planning on using the demon book.
So I guess to refine the question it isn't so much would an inquisitor do it, it's a question of is it plausible a slaaneshi demon princess could enslave a demon of khorne. Maybe the fact she is ex =I= is irrelevant. If it is sketchy I was hoping the modeled pink mask and armor would grease the wheels of plausibility. Whether they are an artifact or a more powerful slaaneshi demon bound in reality whose sole purpose is to enslave the demon could be up to the viewer. I like the latter better though.
Absolutely plausible, believable and a cool idea. You should run with it, given your modeling/painting talent...I imagine it will be a spectacular looking army. Slaanesh/Khorne dislike each other (In old school fluff)...so I think it makes it even more interesting. What better way to show Slaanesh you deserve his favor than by capturing a Bloodthirster!?
Former Inquisitor that found perverse pleasure in taming chaos....slowly becomes chaotic...turning to Slaanesh...binding Khorne to gain favor. Absolutely, go for it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/12 08:45:32
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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inquisitors are strictly trained to hate and hunt demons how could they possibly turn chaos?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/12 09:01:14
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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lion_el_johnson wrote:inquisitors are strictly trained to hate and hunt demons how could they possibly turn chaos?
Some radical Malleus inquisitors attempt to use chaos against itself. But dabbling with Chaos eventually leads to ruin. Quixos was one of the most dedicated of the Emperor servants until he started to try to use chaos against itself. You might be the most dedicated Inquisitor to the Emperor but if your allies know that you have Daemonhosts etc they will hunt you down for being corrupt. Inquisitors are an opportunist taking and jealous bunch.
If your Inquisitor has learned the true names of some Daemons then it is possible they could have power over them in the same way as a Daemonhost They might not like it but they won't have much choice
A cool little insight here from an old article called Infernal Threat about a botched Daemonhost attempt.
++++ Pict Record Begins ++++
Image displayed sways as pict-skull avoids male figure dressed in red surgical smock [Genetor-Major Lauram Clelland] Clelland approaches a male figure strapped securely to a reclined medicae table. The restrained figure is in a high state of agitation and appears to be undergoing some form of possession. The nature of the possession is unclear but is estimated to be a higher order of warp entity. Continual chanting of the Verses of Repugnance are intoned from a source outside the pict-skull's field of vision.
[Voice - off-pict. Identified as Inquisitor Olarius]
Olarius - Quickly, man. be done with it! The entity will overcome the wards soon.
Clelland - I am proceeding as fast as is safe, Inquisitor. You of all people should know the risks inherent in creating a Daemonhost under these conditions.
Olarius - Do not presume to lecture me, Mechanicus. Just do it faster. This one is stronger than we imagined. These bindings may not be strong enough.
Clelland nods and hurries forward to administer hypo-syringe to the restrained subject. As he approaches the medicae table, the subject tears loose an arm that is darkening in coloration and grips Clelland's neck. The grip tightens, and 1.45 seconds later, the subject has broken Genetor Clelland's neck and torn his head from his shoulders. Clelland collapses, and the subject begins spasming.
Olarius - Emperor's blood! Seal the chamber! Now, damn it, now!
The subject [now positively identified as a Daemonhost] breaks free from the medicae table, and image sways as pict-skull avoids a blow from its hand, which elongates and sprouts long talons. Inquisitor Olarius and three Ecclesiarchy priests carrying books of exorcism enter shot as pict-skull is spun around. The Daemonhost's skin darkens: the musculature swells: and its face becomes bestial. The priests scream and run for chamber's exit, but find it scaled. The Daemonhost disembowels the representatives of the Ecclesiarchy in two blows before Inquisitor Olarius shoots it with a weapon classified as a psycannon.
The Daemonhost falls but rises to its feet, apparently unharmed by the close range blasts, and slashes open the Inquisitors stomach Olarius falls as the ceiling-mounted sprays engage and douse the chamber in blessed acids. Image blurs as acids cat into pict-skull then vanishes altogether as Daemonhost smashes it to the floor. Audio lasts a further 3.42 seconds, consisting of screams of Inquisitor Olarius and the Daemonhost as the acid performs its sacred duty.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/12 16:50:59
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
York/London(for weekends) oh for the glory of the british rail industry
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lion_el_johnson wrote:inquisitors are strictly trained to hate and hunt demons how could they possibly turn chaos?
codex daemonhunter is very good at explaining this
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Relictors: 1500pts
its safe to say that relictors are the greatest army a man , nay human can own.
I'm cancelling you out of shame like my subscription to White Dwarf. - Mark Corrigan: Peep Show
Avatar 720 wrote:Eau de Ulthwé - The new fragrance; by Eldrad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/12 17:58:03
Subject: Re:Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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This would be hard to represent on the tabletop.
Probably your most fluffy approach would be, like 4M2A said, a turned Ex-quisitor with human support, but summoning localized Daemonic incursions in the pursuit of her goals. There's really no Codex that would play like that though. And Chaos Daemons is too... Daemonic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/12 18:39:54
Subject: Turned inquisitors "taming" demons
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Ghost of Greed and Contempt
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Like the idea, though perhaps it's an army best for Vs. friends so you can use some "counts as" stuff. Great imagery though, and I love the pet bloodthirster idea.
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