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So a squad of tactical marines is in a rhino, it gets surrounded by death company, they blow it up, 2 of the 10 tactical marines die. My question is this, if I can't deploy all 8 in the footprint of the rhino, allowing for the 1 inch distance between units, do they die? Or do I push back the opposing squad until I can fit all the survivors in?

If it explodes they should be able to fit in the footprint, however if it's wrecked they're probably toast

Exactly if it explodes 8 marines will easily fit into the foot print of a rhino if it is wrecked they are pretty much dead.

Does he get pushed back an inch from the footprint, or do I have to move my squad an inch into the footprint of the exploded rhino

He should be an inch away from the foot print. As there is no unit to be in base to base contact with.

Umm not if it was exploded in h2h. If he destroys it in h2h and it is completely surrounded you might lose a few more guys. He doesn't get pushed back, your models must be 1" into the footprint of the rhino.

Dracos is correct. Nothing says or implies that the assaulting unit is pushed back. People may be thinking of a previous edition of the game.

If a Vehicle Explodes result happens with an occupied transport, the occupants are placed in a new crater of the exact same footprint as the vehicle, and any models which cannot get outside 1" from the enemy are dead.

Since this is the crux of the question i just wanted to note:

Everything Mann and Dracos said was correct; with 1 added bit: Only the individual models that cannot be placed >1" away from the enemy models die. I.E. if you can place all but 2 models within the footprint and not within 1" of the Death company, only those 2 models die.

Mann said this as well, but since the OP asked if the whole unit died; I wanted to completely clarify it.

Mannahnin wrote: If a Vehicle Explodes result happens with an occupied transport, the occupants are placed in a new crater of the exact same footprint as the vehicle...

For my clarification, Can I get a page number that this tidbit is on please.

Thank you
-DR

That quote dosn't exist in one place.

PG 67, right hand, "The surviving passengers are placed where the vehicle used to be and take a pinning test."

PG 61, lower right describes the vehicle blowing up and placeing the crater.

Veldrain got it.

Page 67 tells you the surving passengers go where the vehicle used to be.

Page 61 tells you that that space is an "area of difficult ground representing scattered wreckage or a crater (if you have one)."

So the area of difficult ground does not have to be the "exact same footprint as the vehicle"

Although it should probably not be any bigger than the ensuing explosion, from what I gather from P.61 Destroyed - Explodes.

Page 61 says that the exploded vehicle is removed and replaced with "an area of difficult ground".

You're right that it doesn't specify how big that area should be. I think the most intuitive choice is the same size as the vehicle's footprint. Any other size (bigger or smaller) is just as justifiable as any other.

In practice I usually see craters of the same approximate size & shape used, or occasionally dice to mark the exact dimensions. I have known a number of people to make their own crater markers the exact same footprint as their vehicles.

This is another case where the rules should have a table to specify the size of the crater/area for each type of vehicle.

A Tau Devilfish has a much larger outline than a Chimera, and it is very oddly shaped.

It's on my list of jobs to make some craters and markers for exploded vehicles. I won't try to make them conform precisely, partly because I don't have any official models for IG and SM. Instead, I'll make three standard templates, for small, medium and large vehicles.

I'll probably make them roundish and crater shaped, so I can use them for actual terrain too. If bodies are thrown outside the exact outline of the original vehicle, I'll put that down to them being blown clear of the wreckage by the explosion.

Post photos when you do it!

When I made a bunch of craters for a store I used to play at years ago, I based the size off a Rhino. The store I play at now has a few different sizes; some small (around the size of a Dread base), some medium (built off discarded CDs, about the same size as a Rhino), and some large ones similar in size to a Land Raider or Devilfish.

Mannahnin wrote:You're right that it doesn't specify how big that area should be. I think the most intuitive choice is the same size as the vehicle's footprint. Any other size (bigger or smaller) is just as justifiable as any other.

Personally, I just use the first crater out of the box. Sometimes it's smaller, sometimes it's bigger.