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2019/05/15 10:30:14
Subject: Re: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Fixture of Dakka
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Strg Alt wrote:
LOL, I still play Blood Bowl and haven´t touched BB 2 because of the stupid aging rules.
those rules were in proper Blood Bowl at the time. If this new version of the computer game is based on the current version of the tabletop game, aging will be gone again.
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2019/05/15 14:06:33
Subject: Re: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Dakka Veteran
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The post from BigBen/Cyanide with the BB3 announcement has mysteriously disappeared. Looks like someone made a balls up somewhere so people can read into that what they will.
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2019/05/15 14:14:28
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I imagine we'll be hearing confirmation of the new TT version shortly then.
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2019/05/15 14:16:40
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Fixture of Dakka
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Or simply a better translation of the original French.
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2019/05/15 14:24:38
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Or they'll just pretend it never happened and let people wildly speculate and doomsayers to cause mass panic in the community for months on end.
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2019/05/15 15:12:29
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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From what I hear, I'm pretty sure it is not a mistranslation. But we shall see
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2019/05/15 16:22:44
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Charging Orc Boar Boy
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Oh it isn't a mistranslation. There will be all new rules for sure. GW dose this time and time again with every game they have in order to get the copyright. They went as far as changing "space Marine" to " adeptus asarties" imperial guard to "Astra militarium" because they couldn't copyright space Marine or impiral guard. They change the spelling of elves... The took man o war and turned it into dreadfleet. The list goes on and on. My guess is they had no way to put a lid on the lrb that is widely and freely available so what are they going to do? Make new rules that you have to buy from them. I understand to some extent. Blood Bowl has free rules hundreds of teams you can buy from any number of third parties and it has been going on so long that there is now no way for them to bring it back under their control but a complete redux. I just don't see a community that has been around for 30 years conforming to a new ruleset especially if they make the game worse. They can't make it better.
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Stikk bommas are special among ork society for one reason - They know when you pull the pin out of a stikk bomb you throw the bomb not the pin!
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2019/05/15 16:26:55
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Clousseau
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I have to say that the thought of blood bowl rules getting AOS'd and streamlined etc... prepares me to drop the game.
Of course I'll wait and see but I play Blood Bowl for certain reasons, and if those reasons are all removed in the name of making it "faster" and "easier" and if they make it wombo combo related like their other main games are, thats the end of the line for me.
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2019/05/15 16:29:49
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Charging Orc Boar Boy
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People will just go back to lrb
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Stikk bommas are special among ork society for one reason - They know when you pull the pin out of a stikk bomb you throw the bomb not the pin!
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2019/05/15 16:44:40
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Maryland
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Yeah, the NAF will just shrug and go back to the LRB. Blood Bowl was doing fine for a decade without GW's support. If they do something really dumb, it'll live on. Of course, that's assuming something will happen, and this wasn't just a screwup from a Cyanide social media coordinator, misinterpreting GW's continued team/Spike magazine release schedule.
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2019/05/15 16:47:53
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Clousseau
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The one thing to consider is that whenever there is an official updated edition to your game that is alive, it will split communities and make it harder for new blood to be introduced to the game.
It is not a guarantee that the NAF will ignore it. Much the same was said when AOS appeared... that WHFB would just live on.
I know there is a "9th age" that seems to be in one corner of the world but there is no whfb or a 9th age anywhere that I can see in north america being played short of random peoples' garages.
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2019/05/15 16:49:55
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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AoS stuff is just made up. They are half way through releasing the teams. There is no logical reason to panic about that.
New rules, yes.
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2019/05/15 16:56:28
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Maryland
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auticus wrote:The one thing to consider is that whenever there is an official updated edition to your game that is alive, it will split communities and make it harder for new blood to be introduced to the game.
It is not a guarantee that the NAF will ignore it. Much the same was said when AOS appeared... that WHFB would just live on.
I know there is a "9th age" that seems to be in one corner of the world but there is no whfb or a 9th age anywhere that I can see in north america being played short of random peoples' garages.
Yeah, that's definitely a worry. I think there are some differences between the BB and WHFB communities that could help the game survive. Blood Bowl isn't as much of a cost investment to get into, and there's a lot more 3rd party support. And the NAF has a record of not having support from the games parent company but still keeping the game alive and introducing the game to new people. WHFB had a community, but not an organization.
HOWEVER - this could also mean an actual book release of the rules. So far, the only way to get the rules for Blood Bowl is to buy the starter set (or a PDF of the old LRB or CRB). Maybe this just means a seperate hardcover release?
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2019/05/15 17:00:32
Subject: Re: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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BB is from the FW team. They keep making "complex" games. (necromunda, HH, adeptus titanicus..)
Maybe they just change activations alternating miniatures as they have done in necromunda or something like that
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2019/05/15 17:09:08
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Clousseau
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Vorian wrote:AoS stuff is just made up. They are half way through releasing the teams. There is no logical reason to panic about that.
New rules, yes.
When I say " AOS it" I mean super streamlining the rules and making the game about combos and deck building. Or cutting players down to 7 to match the 7s game (I say that because thats a common request I hear semi-regular... make official blood bowl 7s to make the game go faster)
Something like "while your thrower is on the field, all catchers get +1 to catch", "while the ogre is on the field, adjacent allies get +1 str". Crap like that. I don't like wombo combo games being everywhere.
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2019/05/15 17:57:51
Subject: Re: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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New AOS teams: Stormcast Eternals, Seraphons, deepkin. Basically new worlds to play on with new rules.
God I hope not, but will probably happen.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
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2019/05/15 18:02:01
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Clousseau
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I can see new races. I don't really mind that.
edit: provided they don't do what they do in AOS and make a new faction like a stormcast team be super powered and OP to move models.
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2019/05/15 18:06:47
Subject: Re: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Fresh-Faced New User
Portugal
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It's probably just a new compendium. They can barely keep up with "4 teams per year" statement, let alone a brand new release with new teams and rules... at least until they go through most of the 24 teams.
Tomorrow there's a Licensing Preview scheduled in the Twitch channel. That would hopefully clear things up.
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2019/05/15 18:30:53
Subject: Re: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Charging Orc Boar Boy
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montanhas18 wrote:
It's probably just a new compendium. They can barely keep up with "4 teams per year" statement, let alone a brand new release with new teams and rules... at least until they go through most of the 24 teams.
When has lack of ability to Finnish what they started had any bearing on wether or not they move on to the next thing?
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2019/05/15 18:51:07
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Charging Wild Rider
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It does seem unlikely that they would completely change the game now, rather than when they re-released it. Not impossible, but certainly not what I'd expect to happen (if anything is to actually happen at all).
Also, that Wood Elf is very promising. The 6th ed aesthetic was in my mind one of the best updates they ever did, and combined with modern plastic design and dynamic poses.. yes please.
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2019/05/15 19:54:05
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Fiery Bright Wizard
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Funny enough the BB twitter and bigben accounts deleted all their tweets and the announcement. So yeah someone screwed up.
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2019/05/15 21:01:09
Subject: Re: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Dakka Veteran
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AndrewGPaul wrote: Strg Alt wrote:
LOL, I still play Blood Bowl and haven´t touched BB 2 because of the stupid aging rules.
those rules were in proper Blood Bowl at the time. If this new version of the computer game is based on the current version of the tabletop game, aging will be gone again.
Cyanide BB is based on LRB6, which didn't have aging. Cyanide, and not GW, is the only company to have distributed the full LRB6. When LRB6 came out, GW stripped out all the fluff and some of the rules and distributed it as CRP.
Cyanide's aging is a house rule added to respond to certain issues that arise in their perpetual leagues.
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2019/05/15 21:14:32
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Fixture of Dakka
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rothrich wrote:Oh it isn't a mistranslation. There will be all new rules for sure. GW dose this time and time again with every game they have in order to get the copyright. They went as far as changing "space Marine" to " adeptus asarties" imperial guard to "Astra militarium" because they couldn't copyright space Marine or impiral guard. They change the spelling of elves... The took man o war and turned it into dreadfleet. The list goes on and on. My guess is they had no way to put a lid on the lrb that is widely and freely available so what are they going to do? Make new rules that you have to buy from them. I understand to some extent. Blood Bowl has free rules hundreds of teams you can buy from any number of third parties and it has been going on so long that there is now no way for them to bring it back under their control but a complete redux. I just don't see a community that has been around for 30 years conforming to a new ruleset especially if they make the game worse. They can't make it better.
That's … not how copyright works. If they were going to do that, they'd have done it in 2016 when the new game came out.
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2019/05/17 17:28:36
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Halflings go up on PreOrder this weekend. Old Treeman and the hotpot are getting the Made To Order treatment. Doesn’t bode well for a new Treeman model soon.
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2019/05/17 17:35:35
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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AduroT wrote:Halflings go up on PreOrder this weekend. Old Treeman and the hotpot are getting the Made To Order treatment. Doesn’t bode well for a new Treeman model soon.
The article specifically states next weekend for the preorders.
Next weekend will see new models to pre-order for Blood Bowl and Necromunda. Join Jim & Bob as they take a look at a new team and learn more about the underhive return of a pair of fan favourites.
Not sure why it went up today rather than Sunday as usual, but maybe they won't have people around on Sunday to make sure everything goes off smoothly?
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2019/05/17 17:42:29
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Maryland
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They're really just going to do a week long made to order to cover for a lack of basic Treemen?
Really?
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2019/05/17 17:46:22
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Kanluwen wrote: AduroT wrote:Halflings go up on PreOrder this weekend. Old Treeman and the hotpot are getting the Made To Order treatment. Doesn’t bode well for a new Treeman model soon.
The article specifically states next weekend for the preorders.
Next weekend will see new models to pre-order for Blood Bowl and Necromunda. Join Jim & Bob as they take a look at a new team and learn more about the underhive return of a pair of fan favourites.
Not sure why it went up today rather than Sunday as usual, but maybe they won't have people around on Sunday to make sure everything goes off smoothly?
Ah, my mistake, thank you.
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2019/05/17 17:49:14
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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rothrich wrote:Oh it isn't a mistranslation. There will be all new rules for sure. GW dose this time and time again with every game they have in order to get the copyright. They went as far as changing "space Marine" to " adeptus asarties" imperial guard to "Astra militarium" because they couldn't copyright space Marine or impiral guard. They change the spelling of elves... The took man o war and turned it into dreadfleet. The list goes on and on. My guess is they had no way to put a lid on the lrb that is widely and freely available so what are they going to do? Make new rules that you have to buy from them. I understand to some extent. Blood Bowl has free rules hundreds of teams you can buy from any number of third parties and it has been going on so long that there is now no way for them to bring it back under their control but a complete redux. I just don't see a community that has been around for 30 years conforming to a new ruleset especially if they make the game worse. They can't make it better.
" GW is a model company and not a games company."
This is GW´s credo. I still remember the cluster feth of rules which was the re-release of N17. Only the dedication of the fan base and their introduction of custom rules made it playable.
So they want to redesign BB with the next iteration of the game? Be my guest as I won´t touch it with a ten foot pole. I have downloaded the living rulebook years ago and have a lot of BB teams. GW, you won´t see a single cent from me.
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2019/05/17 17:57:18
Subject: Re: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Courageous Skink Brave
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montanhas18 wrote:Tomorrow there's a Licensing Preview scheduled in the Twitch channel. That would hopefully clear things up.
Did anyone watch that? Any new info?
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2019/05/17 18:21:49
Subject: Blood Bowl News & Rumors: p#111 Deeproot Strongbranch Treeman
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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I would like to see less emphasis on creating “long term” damage, and more focus on playing the ball. My experience is that the best long-term strategy for non elf / skaven teams (most teams) is to bash and, I almost forgot, 2 guys to play the ball.
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