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H.B.M.C. wrote: That doesn't do anything but strengthen what I said.
Yeah, this just demonstrates how the default for when the empire is in focus are the people who are defecting from it or the incompetents that are left with their pants down in front of the protagonists.
H.B.M.C. wrote: That doesn't do anything but strengthen what I said.
Then maybe I'm missing your point because I thought we were complaining about how they keep pulling a bait and switch promising an imperial perspective and having you play as a defector - Squadrons doesn't do that, it delivers the Imperial campaign it promises where you play an Imperial pilot that parties up with a bunch of other imperial pilots who have their own ideas and dreams and politics who all agree your traitor mentor needs to die in a cool space explosion.
Spoiler:
Then you feth off at the end so that the Rebel campaign that's happening in parallel can also have a happy ending because the writers definitely weren't given enough leeway to to have your rebel campaign crew and empire campaign crew duke it out at the end and kill off potentially lucrative new characters.
But if you want actual imperial perspectives in Star Wars your only real option is the books - not only because that's really the only place that examines anyone's perspectives on the world at large, but its the only place where Lucasfilm gives its authors enough leeway to make up, an imperial admiral who is clearly getting on in years and starting to have trouble differentiating the Rebel Alliance forces from say, Clone Wars style Separatists - or a fighter ace who tried to go awol when the Empire fell apart only to turn around and join the struggling remnants because he realized the New Republic was going to hunt him down like a dog for the rest of his life - without having the Story Group meddle with everything.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: There’s a preview thing of Andor on Disney+, as part of Disney+ Day.
Probably worth watching
It was worth watching for me. I am considerably more optimistic about this show now… especially considering I did not like the Cassian Andor character in Rogue One. In one scene in that preview they managed to make me interested in learning more.
Interesting and worth a look, I'd say. Half of it is a (superficial, but pretty to look at) documentary, the other half is a scene of Cassian getting the rebel sales pitch, which is pretty cool in my opinion. So, I said before I'm looking forward to Andor and I want it to be good, and that teaser certainly didn't disappoint.
So? Well? What are they waiting for? Is it the 21st yet? No? Why not? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
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I really like the format for Tales of the Jedi, gives us those extra tidbits of worldbuilding and seeing things like young Dooku without having to create an entire show around it.
S3 for Mando looks decent too, though I'm worried how much more of SW street we're going to experience in the season. Hoping it's less focused on cameos and touching more on what's going to be happening on Mandalore next as it seems to be implying.
2022/09/10 18:49:36
Subject: Re:[Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Tales of the Jedi trailer now up
those fighters, i've seen them in the EU stuff before.....i can;t remember the name...
edit: the R-41 Starchaser, first appeared in the old TIE fighter game. a fighter almost as old as mandos Naboo starfighter.....
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Like Bad Batch? We’re primed to delve nuts first into this one, because everything else has primed us for it.
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The Clone Wars show is the best thing to happen to Star Wars since the original trilogy, granted, but its disappointing that Tales of the Jedi has nothing to do with the Exar and Ulic era set thousands of years before A New Hope.
I suppose next they'll announce Shadows of the Empire and it'll be nothing to do with Black Sun, Xizor or Dash Rendar. Probably some minor tale about Maz or...sigh..."DJ" visiting Spaceball City.
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2022/09/12 00:16:35
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Tales of the Jedi trailer now up
In some ways the problem with SW stories set near the films is that even though there's a whole galaxy to play with; fans want to see their favourite characters appear and budget wise its much easier to get lots of fans with an established character so produces will always put pressure to include them too.
So going way before/after frees up writers and creators because from the inception of the project you can't go over famous characters bar a select few
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We will probably have to wait till Disney is truly drunk on $$$ for us to get Old Republic storylines. Then they can "afford" to greenlight more niche projects.
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The last time they tried even a slight time jump we ended up with a bad remake of A New Hope, and it only got worse from there. What's more, it doesn't look like they know what to do with that mess, judging by all the Clone Wars and Age of the Empire stuff we're getting. I can't see a foray into the distant past in any meaningful way after leaving their comfort zone the last time hasn't worked out so well.
They're probably better of with what they're doing by developing the Mandalorian further, getting in some Ahsoka action and hopefully at some point actually having a look at the New Republic. I know it's not what many people want because of the ease and occasional need for existing characters to pop up, but there's plenty of untapped storytelling potential in the post-Imperial era.
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Geifer wrote: The last time they tried even a slight time jump we ended up with a bad remake of A New Hope, and it only got worse from there. What's more, it doesn't look like they know what to do with that mess, judging by all the Clone Wars and Age of the Empire stuff we're getting. I can't see a foray into the distant past in any meaningful way after leaving their comfort zone the last time hasn't worked out so well.
They're probably better of with what they're doing by developing the Mandalorian further, getting in some Ahsoka action and hopefully at some point actually having a look at the New Republic. I know it's not what many people want because of the ease and occasional need for existing characters to pop up, but there's plenty of untapped storytelling potential in the post-Imperial era.
\shrug. There's plenty of untapped storytelling potential everywhere. Its just a matter of actually doing it. (I'm not sure what you mean by 'leaving their comfort zone.' When did they do that?)
I don't mind the concept of Andor (and actually I really look forward to the potential of more ground-level detail), but they actually had an entire multi-tiered plan for something new. Its time to start showing their work.
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2022/09/12 17:11:12
Subject: Re:[Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Tales of the Jedi trailer now up
Geifer wrote: What's more, it doesn't look like they know what to do with that mess, judging by all the Clone Wars and Age of the Empire stuff we're getting.
How could they? Theres nowhere to go with that story and they so dramatically shrunk the setting down with the Sequel Trilogy that theres not a lot of interesting or inspiring threads for a new direction that wouldn't just be a further rehash of a story that was already told.
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2022/09/12 22:23:36
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Tales of the Jedi trailer now up
Voss wrote: \shrug. There's plenty of untapped storytelling potential everywhere. Its just a matter of actually doing it. (I'm not sure what you mean by 'leaving their comfort zone.' When did they do that?)
Maybe comfort zone isn't the best term. The sequels have Hand, Leia and Luke in them, but they're well past their prime and written to take a step back and let the new cast take the lead. Which is understandable and sensible, but then you look at the reception of Obi-Wan and how Diney announced its launch to be the best for a Star Wars show yet and it's clear how much appeal there is in the established characters taking front and center. Which isn't exactly great to see considering the quality of the show, but it has to be a pretty big consideration for more Star Wars going forward.
I don't disagree that if Lucasfilm put the proper amount of work into it, storytelling potential is everywhere. But considering that a lot of work has already been done with the existing stories and settings it seems a lot easier to expand on that in a meaningful way than to do something new that they have to put a lot of work in just to make it a) Star Wars not just in name and b) not just a wholesale copy of what we have with a new skin. That can't be easy, and I'm just going to say it, Lucasfilm doesn't handle harder things all that well. I don't think new shows or movies based on an entirely different era with no connection to the current one would be all that good without the crutch of established visuals and characters. And that's before any concerns of fan expectations. Who want to see more of their favorite characters instead of some weird new ones in a weird new setting they don't recognize.
Geifer wrote: What's more, it doesn't look like they know what to do with that mess, judging by all the Clone Wars and Age of the Empire stuff we're getting.
How could they? Theres nowhere to go with that story and they so dramatically shrunk the setting down with the Sequel Trilogy that theres not a lot of interesting or inspiring threads for a new direction that wouldn't just be a further rehash of a story that was already told.
How could they? I don't know. I don't even know how they got into that mess in the first place. Okay, that's a lie. I know that just fine. They hired J.J. Abrams, which is the movie producer equivalent of drunk driving. I don't know why there's no law against it.
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2022/09/19 09:14:53
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Tales of the Jedi trailer now up
I'm torn. Is it yay, only two more days? Or boo, still two more days? I can't decide.
I still have a good feeling about the show. It won't be flawless, but I have a feeling the important people at Lucasfilm were too busy screwing up Obi-Wan and wouldn't have had time to do the same with Andor.
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2022/09/19 12:44:50
Subject: [Star Wars] Disney+ SW shows(spoilers) Tales of the Jedi trailer now up
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