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I have 200 points to make up a 1500 point army, What should i get with it? i have lysander, a damocles rhino, 2 tactical sqauds with dedicated rhino's, 3 dread noughts and a predator....

with 200 points i could get 2 predators with 30 points to spare, ive used both HQ spots and all 3 elite spots.... what else do you think i could use?

It would probably be best to post the full list of what you currently have, this way anyone wishing to help you knows what you already have so they can use the 200 points to balance you up.

My Full army list has been updated, Im sitting on 1,315.
Ive filled my elite choices but i do have 5x Assault terminators with Thunder hammers and Storm Shields.

tactical squad with plasma gun is alwase good, or a plasma cannon and a melta on a 10 man squad with help you

Kris221 wrote:My Full army list has been updated, Im sitting on 1,315.
Ive filled my elite choices but i do have 5x Assault terminators with Thunder hammers and Storm Shields.

It has been updated? Cool, how about you write it up for us so we can help you.

HQ
- Captain Lysander - 200
- Damocles Rhino - 60

Troops
- Tactical Squad with Missile Launcher and Plasma Gun - 195
- Rhino - 35
- Tactical Squad with Missile Launcher and Plasma Gun - 195
- Rhino - 35

Elites
- Venerable Dreadnought with twin linked Lascannons and Missile Launcher - 205
- Dreadnought with twin linked Lascannons and Close Combat weapon - 135
- IronClad Dreadnought with Seismic Hammer and Close Combat weapon - 135
- Drop Pod - 35

Heavy Support
- Predator - 85

Total = 1315

devastator squad w/ 4 plasma cannons. Most people you'll play will be MEQ- plasma eats them. 160pts. take an extra marine and a combi-plasma and you have 185pts.
and IF like devastators anyway.
(BTW nice choice on the damocles- most broken thing i've heard of)

How successfull do you think my list will be? To be honest i havent had much luck with it so far. My terminators have been dire in most games getting destroyed in most combats due to the sheer amount of attacks against them, But to be honest im not sure how successfull lysander will be without them,

What's the Damokles Rhino for?

obital bombardlementing people.
S10 AP1 5" blast ordnance barrage.

My first thought looking at your list was "Not enough Troops," so I'd beef up your Troop allocation.

Isn't Damocles Apoc only? Or is it in the Codex?

FW, but can be used in 40k.
normally it gets a chapter master bombardment- in apoc., it get the chapter master bombardlement and the bombardment strategic asset.

The Damocles rhino allows you to reroll one reserves roll per turn and one deepstrike scatter roll per turn, That and the orbital bombardment. I havent had any problems playing it in 40k no one has had any problems with it. I was thinking of another tactical sqaud but at the price i dont think it will be worth it, i could get 2 predators with auto cannon and heavy bolters for that..... lol

Here a picture of my army sitting at 1,315, Sorry about the picture quality ill try and get a better one at some point.

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try and shave off 15 points- I think lysander needs some company (TH/SS)

I could remove one of the dreadnoughts for the assualt terminators? ill still have a good 150 + points thou

This makes it 1,345

Do you have any power weapons on your tactical marines? Any 15-point dreadnought weapon upgrade?
use your old list, swap the venerable dread for a normal dread and use TH/SS termies.

No power weapons im afriad, I have most dreadnought weapons, If i use the 3 dreadnoughts and the terminators that puts me over the 3 elite choices.... :(

get 2 thunderfire cannons they are the most OP unit in the game

the most OP unit is the LR achilles.
5 TH/SS termies.

shrike wrote:Do you have any power weapons on your tactical marines? Any 15-point dreadnought weapon upgrade?
use your old list, swap the venerable dread for a normal dread and use TH/SS termies.

You do realize he has 3 elite choices already, right? He can't just drop 20 points and add Assault Terms, he needs to drop a dread completely.

I think you could use a couple of HF/MM Speeders (at 70 points a piece).

Also, can Damocles Rhino's carry Terminators? or is Lysander footslogging around?

Damocles rhinos have no capacity IIRC.
I said earlier- drop a dread, take 5 TH/SS termies and drop another dread and a few upgrades and take a LRR.

Alternatly you could write up a list that is legal in a tournement...

Baring that I'd make the venerable dreadnought a normal dreadnought, and use the points to buy a Land Raider for your terminators and named HQ.

shrike wrote:I said earlier- drop a dread, take 5 TH/SS termies and drop another dread and a few upgrades and take a LRR.

shrike wrote:Do you have any power weapons on your tactical marines? Any 15-point dreadnought weapon upgrade?
use your old list, swap the venerable dread for a normal dread and use TH/SS termies.

No, you didn't, but that is a much more reasonable idea.

shrike wrote:the most OP unit is the LR achilles.
5 TH/SS termies.

Thats over 500 points if not close this is 2 cannons with 8 shots total which can wipe an army out in 2 turns

i should of clarified best for its points srry

Nettik189 wrote:

shrike wrote:the most OP unit is the LR achilles.
5 TH/SS termies.

Thats over 500 points if not close this is 2 cannons with 8 shots total which can wipe an army out in 2 turns

i should of clarified best for its points srry

im sorry to tell you this... but TFC cannot destroy any army in 2 turns, and they are not OP. Oh and the Achilles sports a TFC on its hull.

Nulipuli2 wrote: im sorry to tell you this... but TFC cannot destroy any army in 2 turns, and they are not OP. Oh and the Achilles sports a TFC on its hull.

Just to prove a point if it sucks, why would they put it on the Achillles?

In 2 turns the TFC can easy destroy double its points. its all in how you use a model ie tremor a fast unit air burst low armour armys. surface detonation MEQ garuntee you will it will make its points up in models.

I love the thunderfire cannon, buts its least effective against meq.. Str6 Ap5 isnt enough to reliably take out SM.

Termor a fast unit: sure it'll take a DT test, but it has the same chance of failing as terminator armour, which probably isnt going to happen
Surface: Ill agree with you on that, its funny seeing so many 6 point orks die... (<--- Sarcasm)
Surface detonation: may i remind you that they have power armour? you might kill a couple, but not all.

TFC will probably take 3-4 turns in order to make its points back, its artillery, which means its av 10/10/10... and well... that usually doesnt live that long. Unless you put it in a bolstered ruin, so its gets a 3+ cover, which in my experience is the only way TFC will survive long enough to make its points back