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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/07 17:16:44
Subject: Treeman can join the party????
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hi guys,simple question,can treeman join a unit of treekin ?O_O
If it does they become all stubborn ?
I hope it does XDD but i think it can't T_T....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/07 17:42:05
Subject: Treeman can join the party????
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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Monsters cannot join, or be joined, by other units.
If you want stubborn treekin, you need to join them with a character with the crown of command. Due to the forest spirit rules, the only character than can join them is a glamorweave wizard (wardancer heroes can only join wardancers, and I think the same is true for wild rider heroes).
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/07 17:44:25
Subject: Treeman can join the party????
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The "Forest Spirit" rule states that Treeman Ancients (i.e., the Lord choice) can't join units, but says nothing about Treemen in general (i.e., the rare choice). As they're not characters however, I can't see how they would be allowed to join a unit.
A Spellsinger with the Glamorweave Kindred, however, is a Forest Spirit character, and thus should be able to join with a Treeman (but not a Treeman Ancient).
Unless I've missed something.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
HawaiiMatt wrote:Monsters cannot join, or be joined, by other units.
-Matt
I double checked the "Monster" entry on LRB pg. 85, and it says nothing about not being able to join units.
Edit: Nevermind, it's under the character rules themselves
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/01/07 17:47:56
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/07 21:28:21
Subject: Treeman can join the party????
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Deadly Tomb Guard
Payson Utah, USA
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You have missed the general BRB rule that monsters cannot join units, Period.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 12:44:03
Subject: Treeman can join the party????
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Arion wrote:You have missed the general BRB rule that monsters cannot join units, Period.
What page would that be on? It's not under the Monster entry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 12:54:51
Subject: Treeman can join the party????
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Cosmic Joe
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streamdragon wrote:Arion wrote:You have missed the general BRB rule that monsters cannot join units, Period.
What page would that be on? It's not under the Monster entry.
In the character section, it says that if character is a monster or riding on one he can't join units.
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 13:07:26
Subject: Treeman can join the party????
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Which is what I said in my edit above Arion's post. I wasn't sure if there was another spot I was missing.
Carry on then!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 19:58:50
Subject: Re:Treeman can join the party????
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Regular Dakkanaut
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There is no specific rule that says that Monsters cannot join units. This is because Monsters already are a unit, and units must stay more than 1" away from one another.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 20:06:26
Subject: Re:Treeman can join the party????
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Cosmic Joe
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Barkdreg Badtoof wrote:There is no specific rule that says that Monsters cannot join units. This is because Monsters already are a unit, and units must stay more than 1" away from one another.
Or you can open to the "what unit can i join rule" and read the second to last sentence in the last paragraph. It basically says that characters who are monsters or riding monsters can't join anybody.
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Nosebiter wrote:Codex Space Marine is renamed as Codex Counts As Because I Dont Like To Loose And Gw Hates My Army. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/08 23:46:14
Subject: Re:Treeman can join the party????
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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Barkdreg Badtoof wrote:There is no specific rule that says that Monsters cannot join units. This is because Monsters already are a unit, and units must stay more than 1" away from one another.
Sure their is. The rule for units joining is limited to characters.
I guess you could argue that it doesn't specifically say that 3 great cannons cannot join 30 flagellants; but the rules are written with what you are allowed to do, not do what you want unless told otherwise.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/09 01:44:18
Subject: Re:Treeman can join the party????
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Regular Dakkanaut
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HawaiiMatt wrote:[
Sure their is. The rule for units joining is limited to characters.
I guess you could argue that it doesn't specifically say that 3 great cannons cannot join 30 flagellants; but the rules are written with what you are allowed to do, not do what you want unless told otherwise.
-Matt
No. The rules specifically states that Character units can join other units, not that "units can join units."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/09 06:22:58
Subject: Re:Treeman can join the party????
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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Barkdreg Badtoof wrote:HawaiiMatt wrote:[
Sure their is. The rule for units joining is limited to characters.
I guess you could argue that it doesn't specifically say that 3 great cannons cannot join 30 flagellants; but the rules are written with what you are allowed to do, not do what you want unless told otherwise.
-Matt
No. The rules specifically states that Character units can join other units, not that "units can join units."
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Claiming anything else is arguing that the rules don't say that I can't. A treeman joining treekin is just as illegal as 3 great cannons joining flagellants.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/09 16:24:39
Subject: Treeman can join the party????
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Stubborn Eternal Guard
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HawaiiMatt wrote:
Due to the forest spirit rules, the only character than can join them is a glamorweave wizard (wardancer heroes can only join wardancers, and I think the same is true for wild rider heroes).
-Matt
Just read the Wood Elf Army book, nothing states that a Wild Rider Noble/Highborn can not join a Unit of Treekin and Wardancers are not forest spirits so that rules them out.
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snurl wrote:I would like to build the Infinity stairs, but they will take forever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/12 00:25:45
Subject: Treeman can join the party????
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Evasive Eshin Assassin
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(well, he had it more or less right then, didn't he?)
I just want to see three great cannons in a unit of 30 flagellants.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/12 06:17:27
Subject: Treeman can join the party????
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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WombleJim wrote:HawaiiMatt wrote:
Due to the forest spirit rules, the only character than can join them is a glamorweave wizard (wardancer heroes can only join wardancers, and I think the same is true for wild rider heroes).
-Matt
Just read the Wood Elf Army book, nothing states that a Wild Rider Noble/Highborn can not join a Unit of Treekin and Wardancers are not forest spirits so that rules them out.
Well there you go. Model up an elf lord riding a treeman. Of course, that treeman would only count as a great stag, but still, it would look cool.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/12 07:22:20
Subject: Treeman can join the party????
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Stubborn Eternal Guard
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HawaiiMatt wrote:
Well there you go. Model up an elf lord riding a treeman. Of course, that treeman would only count as a great stag, but still, it would look cool.
-Matt
must resist urge to convert........
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snurl wrote:I would like to build the Infinity stairs, but they will take forever. |
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