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Oh, and back in the day my favorite legion was the Traitor legion Stormlords. Painted up many titans like those on the inside of the Codex Titanicus. Prob will paint half of my new ones along those lines.




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BrianDavion wrote:
 KTG17 wrote:
Just got an email saying my GME has been shipped! That was quick.



I got mine last night.


As in the game or the email?

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 KTG17 wrote:
Oh, and back in the day my favorite legion was the Traitor legion Stormlords. Painted up many titans like those on the inside of the Codex Titanicus. Prob will paint half of my new ones along those lines.




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BrianDavion wrote:
 KTG17 wrote:
Just got an email saying my GME has been shipped! That was quick.



I got mine last night.


As in the game or the email?


the email. I ordered from GW and just had it shipped to my local GW, more reliable that way, I KNOW what date I'll get it.

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Mendi Warrior wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
 Thargrim wrote:
But the warlord/reaver/warhound should probably remain the staple of the game.

Why? The whole point of AT is to not be limited by zillion dolar resin junk, but to make large scale Titan battles viable. And these most definitely weren't fought by just three classes - look at the FW Horus Heresy books, the Nemesis Class Titan is mentioned nearly as often as Warlord Battle Titan, and I'd really like to see it in plastic...

Isn't the Nemesis Class a sub-class of Warlords with a specific weapons load like the Eclipse, Night Gaunt, Death Bringer, …

If I'm sure we'll see more (well, at least I hope so) imho the 3 classes mentioned will be the most commonly encountered on tabletops

Maybe it used to be, but I feel it's obsolete distinction much like various Knight names that mean different things now than they used to 20 years ago. FW books really do imply Nemesis is not a Warlord, IIRC it's bigger and has weapons arranged in different way...
   
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 Irbis wrote:
Mendi Warrior wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
 Thargrim wrote:
But the warlord/reaver/warhound should probably remain the staple of the game.

Why? The whole point of AT is to not be limited by zillion dolar resin junk, but to make large scale Titan battles viable. And these most definitely weren't fought by just three classes - look at the FW Horus Heresy books, the Nemesis Class Titan is mentioned nearly as often as Warlord Battle Titan, and I'd really like to see it in plastic...

Isn't the Nemesis Class a sub-class of Warlords with a specific weapons load like the Eclipse, Night Gaunt, Death Bringer, …

If I'm sure we'll see more (well, at least I hope so) imho the 3 classes mentioned will be the most commonly encountered on tabletops

Maybe it used to be, but I feel it's obsolete distinction much like various Knight names that mean different things now than they used to 20 years ago. FW books really do imply Nemesis is not a Warlord, IIRC it's bigger and has weapons arranged in different way...


Any particular HH books with lots of Titan fluff? Or is it an even spread throughout the series?
   
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I would expect to see the Cerastus appear and for GW to also flesh out the Titan range. Even in 40K its only in recent years that Knights have appeared as an actual viable model; whilst Epic has been out of the scene for ages.

Otherwise the only option for titans was prohibitively expensive for variety. Now AT hasn't got the limit of costing hundreds to thousands to purchase for the customer so there is every chance that we will see more titans. Warlord might remain the biggest for now, with the psywarlock possibly being one of the earlier either special designs or even a character type unit (ergo unique so only one can ever be taken per army).

Of course weapon packs will be more common and will add a lot of variety on their own without the need for lots of titan carapace hulls to be released.


We might also see some titanic flying units appear - Certainly if the Xenos appear then Manta Rays and Harridins will appear so it wouldn't be out of the question for a large Imperial Air titan to appear.

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 Overread wrote:

large Imperial Air titan


Never heard of such a thing. Except maybe http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Sky_Fortress
   
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 Overread wrote:


We might also see some titanic flying units appear - Certainly if the Xenos appear then Manta Rays and Harridins will appear so it wouldn't be out of the question for a large Imperial Air titan to appear.


Here's hoping for a storm bird model. Not quite titanic but the biggest planetside imperial combat flyer we know of I think.

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JWBS wrote:


Any particular HH books with lots of Titan fluff? Or is it an even spread throughout the series?


As far as the Heresy novels go, Mechanicum by Graham McNeill is probably your best bet for Titan action. It covers the civil war on Mars, and the rise of the Dark Mechanicum. Titan warfare plays an important role in the later parts of the book.
https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/Mechanicum-eBook.html

   
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I was watching a video of the unboxing of the Civitas Imperialis box and I noticed a couple of pieces which are not on the terrain sprues, the one at the top looks very similar to the macro cannon battery from the battlefield assets available in the Rules Set, the one just below seems similar to the radar dish, the following one I don't know and the last one seems similar to the base (although maybe a bit more circular). They can be seen at 0:48 when the guys are flipping through the booklet.

So is the booklet simply showing an alternative use of the battlefield assets or are we going to have another terrain set (fortifications?) including such components?


[Thumb - AT Terrain (2)_LI.jpg]

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JWBS wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
Mendi Warrior wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
 Thargrim wrote:
But the warlord/reaver/warhound should probably remain the staple of the game.

Why? The whole point of AT is to not be limited by zillion dolar resin junk, but to make large scale Titan battles viable. And these most definitely weren't fought by just three classes - look at the FW Horus Heresy books, the Nemesis Class Titan is mentioned nearly as often as Warlord Battle Titan, and I'd really like to see it in plastic...

Isn't the Nemesis Class a sub-class of Warlords with a specific weapons load like the Eclipse, Night Gaunt, Death Bringer, …

If I'm sure we'll see more (well, at least I hope so) imho the 3 classes mentioned will be the most commonly encountered on tabletops

Maybe it used to be, but I feel it's obsolete distinction much like various Knight names that mean different things now than they used to 20 years ago. FW books really do imply Nemesis is not a Warlord, IIRC it's bigger and has weapons arranged in different way...


Any particular HH books with lots of Titan fluff? Or is it an even spread throughout the series?


Mechanium is your best bet, although in december a new novel comes out called Titanfall that is REAAALLY your best bet for titan on titan action

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Mendi Warrior wrote:
I was watching a video of the unboxing of the Civitas Imperialis box and I noticed a couple of pieces which are not on the terrain sprues, the one at the top looks very similar to the macro cannon battery from the battlefield assets available in the Rules Set, the one just below seems similar to the radar dish, the following one I don't know and the last one seems similar to the base (although maybe a bit more circular). They can be seen at 0:48 when the guys are flipping through the booklet.

So is the booklet simply showing an alternative use of the battlefield assets or are we going to have another terrain set (fortifications?) including such components?




That is interesting, makes me wonder if it's stuff they designed but couldn't fit on the sprue...just like the knight missile pod. I would love little bits and things to put on the buildings, just wish we had a clearer image so we could tell if those are just bits from the rules box or something else entirely.

edit: looking closer it looks like a macro cannon, void shield relay and plasma generator, so yeah i'm now thinking the assets can just be placed on top of the buildings.

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Thank you all for the suggestions on Titan fluff. I tend to like GW studio writing (often) but I'm really not a fan of BL, with some exceptions, I think the quality is generally quite poor, and somewhat repetitive. I was thinking more along the lines of the FW HH big books. I know that many of the pivotal events of the Heresy are covered in these books (retconned or not). I suppose they've all got Titanicus included to some extent, Istvaan onwards. Just wondering if there are any that focus more heavily on the God Machines.
   
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JWBS wrote:
Thank you all for the suggestions on Titan fluff. I tend to like GW studio writing (often) but I'm really not a fan of BL, with some exceptions, I think the quality is generally quite poor, and somewhat repetitive. I was thinking more along the lines of the FW HH big books. I know that many of the pivotal events of the Heresy are covered in these books (retconned or not). I suppose they've all got Titanicus included to some extent, Istvaan onwards. Just wondering if there are any that focus more heavily on the God Machines.


You won't find that in the Heresy 'Black Books', other than mentions in passing when describing a campaign. Their focus is on the Space Marine Legions and equipment mostly, with some auxiliaries thrown in. I believe it was book 5 'Tempest' that had the Warlord Titan rules in it, but it was hardly an exhaustive section. Similar to others , the book mostly focused this time on the Word Bearers and Imperial militias.

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 totalfailure wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Thank you all for the suggestions on Titan fluff. I tend to like GW studio writing (often) but I'm really not a fan of BL, with some exceptions, I think the quality is generally quite poor, and somewhat repetitive. I was thinking more along the lines of the FW HH big books. I know that many of the pivotal events of the Heresy are covered in these books (retconned or not). I suppose they've all got Titanicus included to some extent, Istvaan onwards. Just wondering if there are any that focus more heavily on the God Machines.


You won't find that in the Heresy 'Black Books', other than mentions in passing when describing a campaign. Their focus is on the Space Marine Legions and equipment mostly, with some auxiliaries thrown in.


Well that's a shame. Just looking at the covers (never judge a book as they say I suppose), books 1,3, and 5 feature Titans as the cover illustration Even books 4 and 6 have Knights plastered on the front

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JWBS wrote:
 totalfailure wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Thank you all for the suggestions on Titan fluff. I tend to like GW studio writing (often) but I'm really not a fan of BL, with some exceptions, I think the quality is generally quite poor, and somewhat repetitive. I was thinking more along the lines of the FW HH big books. I know that many of the pivotal events of the Heresy are covered in these books (retconned or not). I suppose they've all got Titanicus included to some extent, Istvaan onwards. Just wondering if there are any that focus more heavily on the God Machines.


You won't find that in the Heresy 'Black Books', other than mentions in passing when describing a campaign. Their focus is on the Space Marine Legions and equipment mostly, with some auxiliaries thrown in.


Well that's a shame. Just looking at the covers (never judge a book as they say I suppose), books 1,3, and 5 feature Titans as the cover illustration


It makes some nice art, but the books were heavily focused on the Space Marine Legions. I would not buy any of the Black Books if Titan stuff is your main interest. It will be disappointing.
   
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 totalfailure wrote:
JWBS wrote:
 totalfailure wrote:
JWBS wrote:
Thank you all for the suggestions on Titan fluff. I tend to like GW studio writing (often) but I'm really not a fan of BL, with some exceptions, I think the quality is generally quite poor, and somewhat repetitive. I was thinking more along the lines of the FW HH big books. I know that many of the pivotal events of the Heresy are covered in these books (retconned or not). I suppose they've all got Titanicus included to some extent, Istvaan onwards. Just wondering if there are any that focus more heavily on the God Machines.


You won't find that in the Heresy 'Black Books', other than mentions in passing when describing a campaign. Their focus is on the Space Marine Legions and equipment mostly, with some auxiliaries thrown in.


Well that's a shame. Just looking at the covers (never judge a book as they say I suppose), books 1,3, and 5 feature Titans as the cover illustration


It makes some nice art, but the books were heavily focused on the Space Marine Legions. I would not buy any of the Black Books if Titan stuff is your main interest. It will be disappointing.


I do love me some marines. But my bookshelves are already straing under the weight of Spase Marine writings. I'm on the big robot hype train right now.
   
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 totalfailure wrote:
It makes some nice art, but the books were heavily focused on the Space Marine Legions. I would not buy any of the Black Books if Titan stuff is your main interest. It will be disappointing.

To be fair, around the time Warlord Titan came out (the model) HH books started devoting large parts to titan action. Still, I believe there are sections of note in only two of them, IIRC namely these dealing with battles of Calth and Prospero. If someone wants to read these solely for the titans, I'd look for excerpts online...
   
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 Irbis wrote:
 totalfailure wrote:
It makes some nice art, but the books were heavily focused on the Space Marine Legions. I would not buy any of the Black Books if Titan stuff is your main interest. It will be disappointing.

To be fair, around the time Warlord Titan came out (the model) HH books started devoting large parts to titan action. Still, I believe there are sections of note in only two of them, IIRC namely these dealing with battles of Calth and Prospero. If someone wants to read these solely for the titans, I'd look for excerpts online...


from what I understand around that time was also when the inital decision making process on doing AT came out.

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BrianDavion wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
 totalfailure wrote:
It makes some nice art, but the books were heavily focused on the Space Marine Legions. I would not buy any of the Black Books if Titan stuff is your main interest. It will be disappointing.

To be fair, around the time Warlord Titan came out (the model) HH books started devoting large parts to titan action. Still, I believe there are sections of note in only two of them, IIRC namely these dealing with battles of Calth and Prospero. If someone wants to read these solely for the titans, I'd look for excerpts online...


from what I understand around that time was also when the inital decision making process on doing AT came out.


I can just imagine the design team's discussion during the morning meeting

Guy 1 - "So lads, the Warlord looks to be a success. But are we really going for an Imperator now? Is this not too much for the human brain to fathom?"
Guy 2 - "Well....We could always do an Epic scale Imperator??"

And thus, AT was born

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JWBS wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
 totalfailure wrote:
It makes some nice art, but the books were heavily focused on the Space Marine Legions. I would not buy any of the Black Books if Titan stuff is your main interest. It will be disappointing.

To be fair, around the time Warlord Titan came out (the model) HH books started devoting large parts to titan action. Still, I believe there are sections of note in only two of them, IIRC namely these dealing with battles of Calth and Prospero. If someone wants to read these solely for the titans, I'd look for excerpts online...


from what I understand around that time was also when the inital decision making process on doing AT came out.


I can just imagine the design team's discussion during the morning meeting

Guy 1 - "So lads, the Warlord looks to be a success. But are we really going for an Imperator now? Is this not too much for the human brain to fathom?"
Guy 2 - "Well....We could always do an Epic scale Imperator??"

And thus, AT was born


I forsee it more along these lines.

Guy 1: - People absolutely love the warlord Forgeworld put out, they think it's the best one yet and everyone wants one to display
Guy 2: I hear a but in there.
Guy 1: well the But is most people can't afford it. This things IS 1500 US dollars, not a lot of people can justify that expense.
Guy 2: most people buy titans to collect more then play, why not just make a small one out of scale?
Guy 1: People would insist on all our stuff being playable in a game
Guy 2: well they're getting specialist games going again, let's see about ressurecting adeptus titancus

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I want to get my hands on the warhound and reaver titans first. I will then decide what I am doing with the game.

 
   
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 totalfailure wrote:
JWBS wrote:


Any particular HH books with lots of Titan fluff? Or is it an even spread throughout the series?


As far as the Heresy novels go, Mechanicum by Graham McNeill is probably your best bet for Titan action. It covers the civil war on Mars, and the rise of the Dark Mechanicum. Titan warfare plays an important role in the later parts of the book.
https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/Mechanicum-eBook.html



Vengeful Spirit and Master of Mankind also have Titan Battles in later parts. The Battles of Lupercalia and the Imperial webway are very interesting. Don't miss them.

If you're tired of Space Marines, especially Master of Mankind is your book to go.
   
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 Mysterio wrote:
Iv'e always been a fan of the Warp Runners (Legio Astorum):



(I wonder if they will have some pre-game ability to represent their arrival via teleportation?)



It's harder to paint, and very '80s, but I'm still a fan of thir original look, with the flames:


Forgeworld took a stab at updating it:
(source: IA Siege of Vraks books) before ditching it in favour of the current white stripes iconography.

   
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BrianDavion wrote:
JWBS wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
Mendi Warrior wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
 Thargrim wrote:
But the warlord/reaver/warhound should probably remain the staple of the game.

Why? The whole point of AT is to not be limited by zillion dolar resin junk, but to make large scale Titan battles viable. And these most definitely weren't fought by just three classes - look at the FW Horus Heresy books, the Nemesis Class Titan is mentioned nearly as often as Warlord Battle Titan, and I'd really like to see it in plastic...

Isn't the Nemesis Class a sub-class of Warlords with a specific weapons load like the Eclipse, Night Gaunt, Death Bringer, …

If I'm sure we'll see more (well, at least I hope so) imho the 3 classes mentioned will be the most commonly encountered on tabletops

Maybe it used to be, but I feel it's obsolete distinction much like various Knight names that mean different things now than they used to 20 years ago. FW books really do imply Nemesis is not a Warlord, IIRC it's bigger and has weapons arranged in different way...


Any particular HH books with lots of Titan fluff? Or is it an even spread throughout the series?


Mechanium is your best bet, although in december a new novel comes out called Titanfall that is REAAALLY your best bet for titan on titan action


The best info on the other Titan types in more recent Cannon (and as written by Forgeworld you would imagine what would be in their plans to produce) are in the HH 30k gaming Forgeworld big black books. Unfortunately unless you play the game and have collected ten as each comes out they are a very expensive buy. Each book covers in detail 1-2 Titan legions and sometimes knights houses. In this detail it describes what titans the legion has access to and mentions new ones (no pictures of these so they can design them however they wish). It isn’t worth buying these books just for this info though (unless you have a lot of expendable income) but if you can read them then we’ll worth doing so. If I get time I will look through them and write the names of newly named titans from those books.
   
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 KTG17 wrote:
Oh, and back in the day my favorite legion was the Traitor legion Stormlords. Painted up many titans like those on the inside of the Codex Titanicus. Prob will paint half of my new ones along those lines.




Aye, Legio Tempestus have a new look:

   
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 AndrewGPaul wrote:


It's harder to paint, and very '80s, but I'm still a fan of thir original look, with the flames:


Forgeworld took a stab at updating it:
(source: IA Siege of Vraks books) before ditching it in favour of the current white stripes iconography.



Flames ain't so bad when you get into a rhythm, I used to do them a lot http://www.coolminiornot.com/88894?browseid=6193714 http://www.coolminiornot.com/88893?browseid=6193714
I find Chevrons MUCH harder, need to be so straight (I plan on trying the masking tape method this time)


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BrianDavion wrote:
JWBS wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
Mendi Warrior wrote:
 Irbis wrote:
 Thargrim wrote:
But the warlord/reaver/warhound should probably remain the staple of the game.

Why? The whole point of AT is to not be limited by zillion dolar resin junk, but to make large scale Titan battles viable. And these most definitely weren't fought by just three classes - look at the FW Horus Heresy books, the Nemesis Class Titan is mentioned nearly as often as Warlord Battle Titan, and I'd really like to see it in plastic...

Isn't the Nemesis Class a sub-class of Warlords with a specific weapons load like the Eclipse, Night Gaunt, Death Bringer, …

If I'm sure we'll see more (well, at least I hope so) imho the 3 classes mentioned will be the most commonly encountered on tabletops

Maybe it used to be, but I feel it's obsolete distinction much like various Knight names that mean different things now than they used to 20 years ago. FW books really do imply Nemesis is not a Warlord, IIRC it's bigger and has weapons arranged in different way...


Any particular HH books with lots of Titan fluff? Or is it an even spread throughout the series?


Mechanium is your best bet, although in december a new novel comes out called Titanfall that is REAAALLY your best bet for titan on titan action


The best info on the other Titan types in more recent Cannon (and as written by Forgeworld you would imagine what would be in their plans to produce) are in the HH 30k gaming Forgeworld big black books. Unfortunately unless you play the game and have collected ten as each comes out they are a very expensive buy. Each book covers in detail 1-2 Titan legions and sometimes knights houses. In this detail it describes what titans the legion has access to and mentions new ones (no pictures of these so they can design them however they wish). It isn’t worth buying these books just for this info though (unless you have a lot of expendable income) but if you can read them then we’ll worth doing so. If I get time I will look through them and write the names of newly named titans from those books.


Great, thanks. I used to buy a lot of GW books but I'm definitely in no position to spend £hundreds on them, have other priorities these days, so any info would be much appreciated.

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 zedmeister wrote:
 KTG17 wrote:
Oh, and back in the day my favorite legion was the Traitor legion Stormlords. Painted up many titans like those on the inside of the Codex Titanicus. Prob will paint half of my new ones along those lines.


Aye, Legio Tempestus have a new look:


They're also one of the two Legions with rules in the core set. Paint both Warlords up as Storm Lords, and you can field them together or on opposite sides, for maximum variety!
   
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Rule #1 please! - BrookM


My apologies. Let me rephrase:


 KTG17 wrote:
 General Helstrom wrote:

Instead, let's keep throwing rules at the game until everyone has an exception to everything (including each other's exceptions), all represented in miniatures of course and printed in about a dozen supplements, FAQs and errata so players end up lugging around more paper than plastic.

Or we could not be twits and refrain from dragging each other's arguments to ridiculous extremes, but that might be too much to ask.


If you are throwing rules at the game it means people are asking for more, so that means the game is selling and people will want it expanded on. By coming out and saying, 'Hey we're only going to do X and leave it at that, regardless of how well its received or demanded" then people wont invest in it, or if they do, only to a certain point (How many Warlords, Reavers, or Warhounds will someone buy?). The game will whither and die, although we'll have a few die-hards like you posting how great they think the game is and wished more people played it while everyone else will have moved on to something more exciting.

GW isn't going to throw money at a dead product, so the fact that they would expand on it means there is demand for it. I would demand it myself in hopes that it would keep people interested in the game, rather than throwing what they bought up on eBay. And I have never seen GW put out a perfect rules system anyway, so I can't expect that I will think what they have done up to this point will be either.


What I said is that I hope GW exercises some caution in how they expand upon this game. Rules bloat and power creep are real things too, which are threatening to its long-term viability unless regular overhauls also take place. It saddens me that my attempts at conveying nuance fall on deaf ears.

   
 
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