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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 06:43:36
Subject: Ratgard Preview of Kirov Airship in the Page 4
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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We are offering a Sciuridae platoon bundle discount! Buying 6 upgrade kits at once for your troop platoons, and we will provide one extra Sciuridae upgrade kit for your HQ for free. On top of that, this bundle's shipment is on the house!
http://www.mycnc.org/ratgard/index.php/2011/01/14/behold-the-sciuridae/
Behold the Sciuridae – a custom pattern of armoured transport vehicle designed by Ratgard to replace the dull, stale and dated patterns of impeiral APCs. This is the first successful product of the Ratgard-Innovation-Project(R.I.P). They are just as capable as the older patterns,but also with sleekier look and offer troops more comfort to bolster their morale and combat performances!
This resin kit comes with 8 pieces of resin parts to convert your typical imperial APC into a cutting-edge Sciuridae APC.
This set is 25$, and 10$ shipping to the worldwide, you can contact me with suvietrat@gmail.com. Paypal is welcome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 06:51:41
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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I don't get it. The regular Chimera design looks better and much more 40k to me, and this is a conversion kit that costs $35.00 (with shipping) on top of a model that's already expensive for its points?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 06:59:15
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Myrmidon Officer
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I think it's a great luxury item. It's a bit on the expensive side, but it's not meant to be a Chimera replacement. It's an accessory that you can buy to make your models stand out (like Forge World).
I could see myself buying these for a Mechanicus army following the "older technology is better technology" credo. However, I agree that the cost is highly prohibitive on a part that I'd need 4-8 of (plus Chimeras themselves).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 06:59:50
Subject: Re:Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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Well it's certainly a neat design, but why anyone would pay 35$ for it is beyond me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 07:02:28
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Myrmidon Officer
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I guess the main complaint regarding price is that it's too expensive for something so commonplace. It's a great model that fits the GW aesthetic, but it is meant to be a run-of-the-mill APC, not a command APC or something one-of. Thus, you need to buy a lot of it, and the cost hurts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 07:09:46
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Chapterhouse called, they want their... lawsuit... back... umm... ? Ok... that sounded better in my head before I said it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 07:14:10
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Love it. The turret is really nice, and I like the fire ports to replace the lasguns and reflect the changes in the rules. The back doors are great.
HBMC is right though, with the shape of the hull deck so similar to the GW design, please be careful how you market that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 08:39:58
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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Absolutionis wrote:I guess the main complaint regarding price is that it's too expensive for something so commonplace. It's a great model that fits the GW aesthetic, but it is meant to be a run-of-the-mill APC, not a command APC or something one-of. Thus, you need to buy a lot of it, and the cost hurts.
Yeah, but this doubles the price. Most 3rd party kits don't do that to you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 08:45:50
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Maybe they're just being proactive and saving up for good legal counsel ahead of time?
Ok, ok. I'll stop...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 08:51:36
Subject: Re:Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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I like the rear doors, has a nice feel to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 09:00:49
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Making Stuff
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I like the look, although the bubble hatches and blockier turret don't really say 'sleeker' to me... rather the opposite, really.
The hull top does look a little too much like the GW part with some different detail sculpted on for comfort, though. I wouldn't expect this kit to be around for very long.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 11:08:26
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Brainless Servitor
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I really like the BMP-1 look and I think this is an excellent kit, however for $25 I think it is overpriced, as well as the $10 dollar shipping. A price of around $15 would be a much better price-point for something that is just an aesthetic upgrade upon the chimera, IMHO.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 14:12:07
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Posts with Authority
South Carolina (upstate) USA
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Chapterhouse called, they want their... lawsuit... back... umm... ?
Ok... that sounded better in my head before I said it.
Thats the first thing I thought of. Being that sets like this one are common in the scale modeling industry GW may well lose that suit. It doesnt violate IP to make parts that add to something.
Look up a company called Verlinden...one of their main products is scale armor "update" sets similar to the one shown by OP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 14:29:17
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Irked Necron Immortal
Columbia, South Carolina
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Great looking model. I'd get a couple if I didn't already have 8 chimeras.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 15:37:33
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Fixture of Dakka
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Very cool, good for Valhallans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 15:41:45
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I like it, I think the price is fine for one tank that you might want to stand out like for your HQ command or something like that. I pimped out a razorback with all kinds of FW doors and extra armor and big dozer blade for my marine commander, the tank came out to like $75 when it was done, and that was like 6 years ago
It would be cool if they could break up the set though, like if you wanted just the tank top, or just the back doors, or just the turret.
I've been wanting to do a chimera top conversion that I'd hopefully cast so I can have all of mine be the same, but I know I'll never get to it. But, I was going to have the turret moved farther back toward the rear of the tank, kinda like the little turret the APC in Aliens.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 15:42:33
Subject: Re:Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Plaguelord Titan Princeps of Nurgle
Alabama
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BrookM wrote:I like the rear doors, has a nice feel to it.
This sounded bad in my head when I read it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 15:48:24
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Neat idea, although the top hatches look weird to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 16:03:56
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Calculating Commissar
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It's very nice looking, but it's too expensive for what it does. Maybe it can't be cheaper, that's certainly possible, in which case it's also a failure as a product.
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The supply does not get to make the demands. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 16:13:58
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Solahma
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George Spiggott wrote:Very cool, good for Valhallans.
AHHHH MOTHERLAND!
Pretty but waaaaaaay overpriced. Might see some service once those Cold Cadians get released.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 16:21:05
Subject: Re:Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Nasty Nob
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Not bad at all, although it actually makes the Chimera look more like one of its key inspirations (the BMP). The revised hatch detail is certainly an improvement - the turret maybe could have been a bit more interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 16:23:25
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Mad4Minis wrote:H.B.M.C. wrote:Chapterhouse called, they want their... lawsuit... back... umm... ?
Ok... that sounded better in my head before I said it.
Thats the first thing I thought of. Being that sets like this one are common in the scale modeling industry GW may well lose that suit. It doesnt violate IP to make parts that add to something.
Look up a company called Verlinden...one of their main products is scale armor "update" sets similar to the one shown by OP.
Without going too off-topic:
There's a difference in what Verlinden does versus Chapterhouse.
The difference?
The companies that produce the product that Verlinden is 'supplementing' didn't actually create (or in many cases, license) the design for the item they're producing.
There was an interesting article in a Fine Scale Modeler last year about the "Rise of licensing" in the automobile/armor modeling field after Chrysler/Dodge supposedly put the kibosh on a model kit, being produced without license, of a Jeep Wrangler.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 16:34:29
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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Doesn't this kit supplement the current Chimera Kit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 16:48:39
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Wonderful...until you show up with your Leaf-Blower/Mech-Guard Army at a GW sponsored event and they make you put all them melta-vets on foot since the aftermarket "counts as chimera" isn't legal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 16:53:50
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Bounding Dark Angels Assault Marine
South East USA
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Any one want to post a pict for the people that have the web page blocked
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 16:56:03
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Solahma
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dkellyj wrote:Wonderful...until you show up with your Leaf-Blower/Mech-Guard Army at a GW sponsored event and they make you put all them melta-vets on foot since the aftermarket "counts as chimera" isn't legal.
To be clear, this is a Chimera. It has a different top, turret, and back. I think it'd be fine as a "conversion" in GW tourneys.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 17:01:07
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Manchu wrote:dkellyj wrote:Wonderful...until you show up with your Leaf-Blower/Mech-Guard Army at a GW sponsored event and they make you put all them melta-vets on foot since the aftermarket "counts as chimera" isn't legal.
To be clear, this is a Chimera. It has a different top, turret, and back. I think it'd be fine as a "conversion" in GW tourneys.
Not for the ones that opt for the "75% GW parts" v. the supposedly 'normal' "50% GW parts" ratio
It's nice looking and all, but it really doesn't do that much to differentiate itself from a normal Chimera.
At least not $35 worth of "difference" in my opinion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 17:05:20
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Solahma
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Kanluwen wrote:Not for the ones that opt for the "75% GW parts"
Measured by weight or surface area or what? It's nice looking and all, but it really doesn't do that much to differentiate itself from a normal Chimera. Disagree. At least not $35 worth of "difference" in my opinion.
Agree.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 17:11:42
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Nasty Nob
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Manchu wrote:Kanluwen wrote:Not for the ones that opt for the "75% GW parts"
Measured by weight or surface area or what?
The way GW is going, they might as well just say 75% of the money spent on the model. That would normally be pretty easy to meet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/10 17:15:17
Subject: Ratgard- Sciuridae upsets for Imperial Guard Chimera
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Solahma
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Da Butcha wrote:The way GW is going, they might as well just say 75% of the money spent on the model. That would normally be pretty easy to meet.
Not in this case!
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