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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 19:42:12
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - Update 6-05-11 - MOTHER - the dread Haemonculus!
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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So after much preparation, I am finally revealing my in-progress Dark Eldar force: The Darkflame Kabal (name subject to change). [ Pics below!]
I am not necessarily going with a specific theme, i.e. Wych Cult army, Haemonculi Coven, etc. (though this may also change) but am working on a variety of different units. I'm pretty ADD about the hobby, and am always hopping around a rotating set of different projects, but I am trying to at least build p a force i can put on a tabletop not too far down the road. With that in mind, here is what I am kind of working on right now:
HQ
-Archon ( WIP)
-Haemonculi (1-3 WIP)
ELITES
-Trueborn ( WIP)
-Venom (for the Trueborn)
TROOPS
-Warriors ( WIP)
-Raider for the Warriors ( WIP)
-Wracks ( WIP)
-Raider for the Wracks
FAST ATTACK
(not sure yet)
HEAVY SUPPORT
-Razowing fighter
-Ravager
Without further ado, here are some pics of things that are built and ready for priming:
My female Haemonculus (named "Mother" she'll have a head from the Wyches set, the one with the dual ponytails  ):
My Webway Portal:
And an almost finished Warrior, showing my basic color scheme:
My first Trueborn:
Some special helmets, for the Trueborn:
And some bare heads wearing skulls as masks (probably to be used for Beastmasters at some point in the future):
Any feedback, suggestions, or commentary much appreciated!
-C6
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 19:48:49
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - My Dark Eldar army begins!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Some nice conversions so far. Will be following another fellow DE collector.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 20:37:32
Subject: Re:The Darkflame Kabal - My Dark Eldar army begins!
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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Like the skull mask Idea for the beastmasters hope to see more pics soon, I am just starting A Dark Eldar force too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 21:07:15
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - My Dark Eldar army begins!
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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sweet start keep it up
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 21:14:24
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - My Dark Eldar army begins!
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Hacking Shang Jí
Calgary, Great White North
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Looking forward to seeing more of the haemonculous, the 'hairfire' is a great idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/11 23:26:43
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - My Dark Eldar army begins!
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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Mastiff wrote:Looking forward to seeing more of the haemonculous, the 'hairfire' is a great idea.
I assume that you're referring to the stuff underneath the Haemonculus' feet holding her aloft. I figure it's like magical fire or something, since the lower body for her comes from a IoB High Elf Mage model. I'm not sure what I want it to represent, or how to paint it, but it does look pretty cool, and adds to the "look at me, I'm a scary floaty Haemonculus" look
Thanks for all the encouragement guys! I have been keeping an eye out for DE plogs, but there aren't that many. Now that I finally settled on my purple-y scheme (I originally had a red scheme that I wasn't quite satisfied with), I am gonna try to get this force whipped into shape! I have two more Trueborn, my Warriors' Raider, a Wrack prototype, and a Grotesque prototype in the pipeline, as well as several warriors being painted. Keep your eyes on this thread for more Black-flamery!
-C6
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 05:50:28
Subject: Re:The Darkflame Kabal - Update 2-14 - Wrack and Trueborn WIPs!
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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I got some models primed this weekend, since it finally got warm enough to do it! Yay for above-freezing temperatures! When I get some paint on them, I'll post more pics, but for the meantime, here are two more WIPs:
First off, my first Wrack!
I tried various other ideas for legs, but just couldn't find one I liked as much as the new Mandrakes. So I bought two boxes of Mandrakes, and will be converting them extensively. I am not going to do the usual totally-out-of-control mutated chaotic gribbly madness for my Wracks. It seems to me that Haemonculi have access to the most advanced tech in the entire galaxy - why can't their creations have some style? That's my personal take.
And another Trueborn. Jumping on the 5-man Blaster-iffic bandwagon (or band-Venom) here:
As always, love to hear feedback, comments, advice, critiques, etc.
-C6
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 05:57:17
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - My Dark Eldar army begins!
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Furious Raptor
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I think....AND HOPE, that you are going to do an amazing job with these.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 12:31:12
Subject: Re:The Darkflame Kabal - My Dark Eldar army begins!
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Kinebrach-Knobbling Xeno Interrogator
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Looks promising.
Nice idea to use Mandrakes as a base for the Wracks and I love the stargate feeling I get from the Webway Portal. Engine of the Gods maybe? And the cloaks for the Trueborn are from the plastic Phoenix Guards, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 12:47:12
Subject: Re:The Darkflame Kabal - My Dark Eldar army begins!
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Nasty Nob
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For a moment I was under the impression that the trophy rack was her head
Keep it up! I think the new DE are all looking so very cool, I might buy some to convert my eldar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 15:04:24
Subject: Re:The Darkflame Kabal - My Dark Eldar army begins!
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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Igandris wrote:Looks promising.
Nice idea to use Mandrakes as a base for the Wracks and I love the stargate feeling I get from the Webway Portal. Engine of the Gods maybe? And the cloaks for the Trueborn are from the plastic Phoenix Guards, right?
A lot of folks have been using the WHFB Empire Flagellants bodies, and I tried that, with a Wych torso, but didn't quite like it. I LOVE the hakama that the Mandrakes are wearing, and liked the models, but had no plans of using Mandrakes in my list. Then a light bulb went off in my head, and here we are!
The Webway Portal is indeed an Engine of the Gods from the WHFB Lizardmen range. I was imagining that it's some super-ancient bit of alien technology that the Haemonculus/Archon has lying around. I bought the Stegadon just because it was so cool, and got the idea to use the Engine afterwards. There actually is a bunch in that kit that will end up decorating parts of my Kabal. It's a great kit. The portal got primed yesterday, and I am now trying to decide how to paint it. Anncient-looking stone? Ancient-looking metal?
And the Trueborn are indeed all dressed up in Phoenix Guard cloaks. Since it has a flame pattern along the bottom of the cloak, it fits perfectly into my army's theme. And since the Phoenix Guard are High Elves, the scale is exactly the same as Dark Eldar (Dark Elves too, and some of their bitz are in my conversions as well).
Hopefully tonight more pics. Thanks for the good words guys!
-C6
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 15:57:02
Subject: Re:The Darkflame Kabal - My Dark Eldar army begins!
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Nasty Nob
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catharsix wrote:And the Trueborn are indeed all dressed up in Phoenix Guard cloaks. Since it has a flame pattern along the bottom of the cloak, it fits perfectly into my army's theme. And since the Phoenix Guard are High Elves, the scale is exactly the same as Dark Eldar (Dark Elves too, and some of their bitz are in my conversions as well).
Hmm... Now a lightbulb went off in MY head! What about using those cloaks... on Fire Dragons?
BTW, what are you going to base your grotescues from (just an assumption that you will include that since you have a haemonculi as first HQ, I may be naive)?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 16:49:41
Subject: Re:The Darkflame Kabal - My Dark Eldar army begins!
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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Saintspirit wrote:catharsix wrote:And the Trueborn are indeed all dressed up in Phoenix Guard cloaks. Since it has a flame pattern along the bottom of the cloak, it fits perfectly into my army's theme. And since the Phoenix Guard are High Elves, the scale is exactly the same as Dark Eldar (Dark Elves too, and some of their bitz are in my conversions as well).
Hmm... Now a lightbulb went off in MY head! What about using those cloaks... on Fire Dragons?
BTW, what are you going to base your grotesques from (just an assumption that you will include that since you have a haemonculi as first HQ, I may be naive)?
Your assumption is correct! I love to convert, so the grotesques are an even bigger challenge than the Wracks. I am basing them off of IoB Rat Ogre torsos, with masked heads, and am still trying to figure out appropriate legs. Any suggestions welcome! If I was a better freehand GS sculptor, I would make hakama like the Mandrakes. But I don't think I could pull it off. I've thought about commissioning someone to do it for me, but haven't found anyone with the skills to do so yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 19:40:39
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - Update 2-14 - Wrack and Trueborn WIPs!
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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I really like the mandrake body for the wracks
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1250 Eldar
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DE Kabal fluff
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 20:11:09
Subject: Re:The Darkflame Kabal - My Dark Eldar army begins!
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Nasty Nob
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catharsix wrote:Saintspirit wrote:catharsix wrote:And the Trueborn are indeed all dressed up in Phoenix Guard cloaks. Since it has a flame pattern along the bottom of the cloak, it fits perfectly into my army's theme. And since the Phoenix Guard are High Elves, the scale is exactly the same as Dark Eldar (Dark Elves too, and some of their bitz are in my conversions as well).
Hmm... Now a lightbulb went off in MY head! What about using those cloaks... on Fire Dragons?
BTW, what are you going to base your grotesques from (just an assumption that you will include that since you have a haemonculi as first HQ, I may be naive)?
Your assumption is correct!
Yay!
catharsix wrote:I love to convert, so the grotesques are an even bigger challenge than the Wracks. I am basing them off of IoB Rat Ogre torsos, with masked heads, and am still trying to figure out appropriate legs. Any suggestions welcome!
Maybe use some of the FW Berserker Ogryns? They have masks...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 21:34:55
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - Update 2-14 - Wrack and Trueborn WIPs!
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Powerful Spawning Champion
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Great conversions. Eager to see a group of them painted up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 01:23:56
Subject: Re:The Darkflame Kabal - My Dark Eldar army begins!
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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Saintspirit wrote:
catharsix wrote:I love to convert, so the grotesques are an even bigger challenge than the Wracks. I am basing them off of IoB Rat Ogre torsos, with masked heads, and am still trying to figure out appropriate legs. Any suggestions welcome!
Maybe use some of the FW Berserker Ogryns? They have masks...
If I was willing to pay FW prices! And also, I don't want the dirty/grubby/rickety look of the Nurgle-oriented FW renegades (se my commentary above about Wracks). I already have the masks - I am using the skull-faceplate mask thing from the Defiler kit (I have about 5 or so). The big problem I'm having is legs...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 01:52:43
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - Update 2-14 - Wrack and Trueborn WIPs!
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Lookin really good!
I havent seen many DE Blogs from highly skilled people yet and it looks like yours will be.
Any ideas where your going to get all the blast weapons from yet? Ive only got 1 warrior box and a couple of raiders so far, but the lack of special weapons in the boxes is going to make it difficult for the lovely trueborn 'band-venom' that weve not just jumped on, but won round the world tickets on!
Definately some nice ideas with the mandrake bodies for example. I can see the tactical and economical advantages whilst being able to make use for these nice models!
Looking forward to seeing some paint! Hopefuly you work faster than me. Im holding my blog off til I get a head start with it otherwise it will go as stagnant as my space marine one lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 02:29:33
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - Update 2-14 - Wrack and Trueborn WIPs!
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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Newt-Of-Death wrote:Lookin really good!
I havent seen many DE Blogs from highly skilled people yet and it looks like yours will be.
Any ideas where your going to get all the blast weapons from yet? Ive only got 1 warrior box and a couple of raiders so far, but the lack of special weapons in the boxes is going to make it difficult for the lovely trueborn 'band-venom' that weve not just jumped on, but won round the world tickets on!
Definately some nice ideas with the mandrake bodies for example. I can see the tactical and economical advantages whilst being able to make use for these nice models!
Looking forward to seeing some paint! Hopefuly you work faster than me. Im holding my blog off til I get a head start with it otherwise it will go as stagnant as my space marine one lol.
Thanks for the praise! I think I am a better converter than painter - but I have ~4 or so Warriors almost finished, so when I get them done, y'all can be the judge
As to where to get Blasters, it can be tricky, and they can be expensive. I personally use this site very frequently:
www.letthedicedecide.co. uk
They don't ALWAYS have everything in stock, but they restock WAY more often than any webstore I know of. They have very good customer service, and their prices are very reasonable, even if you're in the USA or Canada, and are paying for international shipping. I have been buying from them for about a year, and make a purchase every other month or more. Also, you can try your luck on eBay, but more often than not individual high-demand bits like blasters will get bid up to around $7 or more, so you might as well just buy them from a webstore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/04 03:59:36
Subject: Re:The Darkflame Kabal - Update 2-14 - Wrack and Trueborn WIPs!
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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Howdy folks, long time no update :( That's the grad student lifestyle - hustlin' for the man for peanuts while you're figuring out the big secrets to life, the universe and everything (which will also get you exactly peanuts. But here are some WIPs.
First off, my Warriors' Raider, in my general army color scheme:
Close-up of front hull decoration:
And as reference here's another Warrior I finished (mostly):
And I'm almost done with my first Trueborn! He'll have a power sword in his left hand, and a shield bracing the left arm:
Side view:
Back of cape - flamey!
As always comments, advice, criticism, lavish praise heartily accepted!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/05 02:40:28
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - Update 3-3-11 - (painting) WIP Raider and Trueborn!
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Nice!
Was a bit scared when I saw the Raider at first glance, but then I saw its a work in progress, which was apparant after seeing the warriors.
I see youve gone for the greeney glow! I intend to do something a bit like that too but I want it to be a bit more subtle. Got myself some Vallejo fluo green.
The flames are a nice touch too and the 2 tones of purple go really well together.
Tried them out much in game yet? Ive got 2 1.5k games tomorrow for our tournament thing. Eldar and a rival Dark Eldar kabal I think. Well I hope, otherwise its eldar then wolves! And my army list will be balls.
I see you like your Douglas Adams! Fellow fanatic myself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/05 05:00:50
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - Update 3-3-11 - (painting) WIP Raider and Trueborn!
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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I love the blue flames on your Trueborn capes. It gives it such a unique touch. And your haemonculus (great minds MUST think alike) looks fantastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/05 06:59:32
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - Update 3-3-11 - (painting) WIP Raider and Trueborn!
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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Newt-Of-Death wrote:Nice!
Was a bit scared when I saw the Raider at first glance, but then I saw its a work in progress, which was apparant after seeing the warriors.
I see youve gone for the greeney glow! I intend to do something a bit like that too but I want it to be a bit more subtle. Got myself some Vallejo fluo green.
The flames are a nice touch too and the 2 tones of purple go really well together.
Tried them out much in game yet? Ive got 2 1.5k games tomorrow for our tournament thing. Eldar and a rival Dark Eldar kabal I think. Well I hope, otherwise its eldar then wolves! And my army list will be balls.
I see you like your Douglas Adams! Fellow fanatic myself.
Thanks for the kind words. I did some more work on this stuff today, and I'm happy with how the Trueborn in particular turned out. More pics of finished stuff later.
I pcked up a few more paints today including a lighter yellow-y greeney color to highlight that even more. We'll see how it works out.
As to playing, I don't even have enough stuff assembled for a game!  I am gonna hang out with my only local gamer friend on Monday, and we may play a game with his armies (nids and sisters) but it will be a little time before I can field a force. Good luck on your battles though! Tell us how you slaughtered them!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/20 01:10:50
Subject: Re:The Darkflame Kabal - Update 3-3-11 - (painting) WIP Raider and Trueborn!
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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My digital camera went missing for a few days, but I finaly found it, so here are some more updates!
First off, I finished my first Trueborn:
I'm working on more blaster-boys, just like every other DE player out there...
And WRACKS!
a couple individuals:
(sorry for the fuzziness of a couple of the pics)
I am trying to focus on getting a full 10-man squad of Wracks assembled and primed so I can begin painting them as my other Troops Choice. Also, finishing Raider, Warriors squad, and the female Haemonculus.
As usual, commentary greatly appreciated!
-C6
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/23 17:42:26
Subject: Re:The Darkflame Kabal - Update 5-23-11 - First Wrack fully painted!
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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I finally painted up a Wrack! I have 5 primed, and now that I have hammered out the color scheme and method, I hope to be able to get them done quickly. I am also working on an Angels Encarmine army as well as an incipient Necron force (in anticipation of their eventual re-release) so I haven't been making very fast progress. But without further ado, here is WRACK #1:
As you can see, I used the Mandrakes as a base for these guys. I like the Mandrake models, but not their rules, but do plan to populate my army with a bunch of Wracks, hence the conversions. Now that I've gotten a glimpse of the Wracks that will be released soon, I'm satisfied that they will go together relatively well. Though the Mandrakes are in WAY more dynamic poses than the rather stiff (but otherwise pretty cool) Wrack releases.
I'll try to post more pics soon. Like I said, I should be able to update more frequently, as school has ended and I've gotten a system for the scheme for these guys. C & C alsways encouraged and appreciated. Thanks Dakka!
-C6
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/23 19:39:09
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - Update 5-23-11 - First Wrack fully painted!
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I love your wracks! (Came here from the DE N&R thread where you linked to it). Using the mandrake legs/torsoes is a great idea...
Do their arms and head come separate, or did you have to hack them off?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/23 20:27:35
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - Update 5-23-11 - First Wrack fully painted!
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Grovelin' Grot Rigger
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I like the Wracks, I see why you sold me the other ones these look sick. And I like the conversions you have done for the Trueborn as well, also where did you get the legs for the homunculus? They look fantastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/23 21:37:16
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - Update 5-23-11 - First Wrack fully painted!
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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love the mandrake conversion, the portal and some of the trueborn bits. Gives me a lot of ideas, unfortuneatly I just finished my first squad of wracks and my third squad of true blasters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/23 22:31:07
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - Update 5-23-11 - First Wrack fully painted!
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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RiTides wrote:I love your wracks! (Came here from the DE N&R thread where you linked to it). Using the mandrake legs/torsoes is a great idea...
Do their arms and head come separate, or did you have to hack them off?
Thanks! I'm glad my shameless, off-topic plug for this plog got a little crossover traffic
The Mandrakes come in 2 pieces: The body, head, and weapon-holding arm is one piece. The other arms (the left I believe) with the spooky dark-space-elf-fire is a separate piece. So I hacked off the head (though after painting him, I think that I should have carved off the hair that is fowing down the back, but too late now). I also carefully cut off the right arms, and kept those bits for potential conversions or trades. Anyone who wants 10 or so sinister looking blades attached to arms for quick and easy sinister conversions, drop me a PM!  (Actually I have a bunch of great metal bits, like the Archon stuff etc.).
-C6
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/24 14:00:40
Subject: The Darkflame Kabal - Update 5-23-11 - First Wrack fully painted!
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Morphing Obliterator
Orange County, California, USA
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Grie Velorn wrote:I like the Wracks, I see why you sold me the other ones these look sick. And I like the conversions you have done for the Trueborn as well, also where did you get the legs for the homunculus? They look fantastic.
Thanks man! The wrack stuff I sold you is easier conversion material, since it's all plastic, and I REALLY hate working with metal, but I just really like the hakama the Mandrakes are wearing.
The Haemonculus' lower body is from the Island of Blood WHFB box starter game High Elf Mage. One or two other folks ahve used a similar conversion (though I think we all came up with the idea completely independent of each other). You can get the fig for just a couple of bucks on eBay usually.
-C6
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