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Elite Tyranid Warrior






Hello all, sorry if this is a n00b question, but am a very new to 40k so you'll have to forgive me.
normally all the questions my friend and i have about the game are answered right here in this forum but this one has eluded us.

so the question is, are units allowed to move within 2" of a friendly unit if the first unit is assaulting an opposing unit that is already engaged?

we had a problem where i had only a tyranid prime and a termagaunt left in the unit, engaged with his veteran squad. he wanted to assault them with a command squad but the only way for that to happen would be by moving within 2" of his own unit, which i am sure is illegal. i let him do it anyways, but i wouldn't mind some clarification.

also if its not to much to ask. i was wondering for the same case, since the prime is independent, does he have to choose to attack the prime separately or can he decided to force me to have primes weapon skill reduced to the termagaunts 3 due to the majority rule?

thanks a lot for the help

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Non-ICs can come within 2" of other units any time(even be in Base-to-base)

The only units in the game that are forbidden to come within 2" of friendly units is IC that are not attaching to at least 1 of those units.

As for your second query: ICs fight as there own unit in CC(during the actual attacks and their resolution) The Prime would have to be in Base-to-base with models in order to make attacks or be attacked, and fights using it's own weapon skill. It can also only be attacked by models in base-to-base with it, and models within 2" of a model in base-to-base with it, but not in base-to-base with any other enemy models.

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you can have your own units touching bases if you want lol. you just can't come to 2 inches of an enemy model UNLESS its in the assault phase.

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You're allowed to move into basse to base contact with friendly units as much as you want (just be sure you can tell which model belongs to which unit!) it's only enemy units you can't pass within 1" of.

So your friends move was perfectly legal. To make it illegal you'd have to have one of your own units inbetween his Vet squad an his command squad.

As for your 2nd question, yes, as the Prime is an independent character in close combat you can choose to allocate attacks specifically to it. However, although you see the strength of that, the weakness is that now your enemey can choose to place all his power weapon or other special attacks against the Prime, instead of allowing you to spread such attacks out amongst the guants.

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I am not sure what you are asking, If you are asking

"can you move one unit closer than 2" to another friendly unit"

The answer is yes, in fact you can move as close as you want to friendly units at any time.

As for the Independent Character situation I am again not sure what you are asking but It should be covered under "Who can fight" on P.35

Yes you have to attack any Independent Characters separately.

As for the majority rule, that has no bearing on outgoing attacks each model will attack using its own weapon skill. Incoming attacks will use the majority, or the highest if there is no majority. P.37

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Thanks everyone for the help!

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Page 49, ICs in assault is where it shows you that ICs are "treated as" a separate unit in CC - meaning you attack them separately, wounds on their unit cannot be passed across onto it, and so on.
   
 
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