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CptJake got a new toy...

All I see is a box, though I assume you mean whats in the box. Unless you're just into boxes

Go on...

MPX?

Yes, an MPX I'll get pictures of tonight or tomorrow.

Where are the pics?

Martini Henry competition for me tomorrow, been loading ready:

Oooh very cool.

As I've said before, I like watching gun channels to see old muskets being blasted

Now and again though, you get comedy gold. 2-3 years ago, I posted on this very thread about the Cobray company.

If memory serves, no American dakka member confessed to ever having owned one.

After watching this, I don't blame you

What an awful gun.

Finally found the time to put in the raptor charging handle and take some pictures.

Now I need to find time to zero the sight and blow through some ammo.

And that's a "pistol", right?

MH comp was fun, provisional results make me joint winner, but we'll see how the final scores pan out...

You know, I'd like to see someone actually using the arm brace as an arm brace sometime. Like, how well does it work?

If that MPX fired a caliber that was longer, like a 5.56, then that would be pretty much as close to a bolter as possible in terms of profile.

I had thought my next "pistol" would be a Scorpion EVO with a MP brace:



but now IDK, that MPX does look pretty baller.

 Slinky wrote:
Martini Henry competition for me tomorrow, been loading ready:

Spoiler:

What are these rounds?

They are .577/450, the British military cartridge circa 1870 until the first .303 rounds came along...

 Ouze wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That’s a pistol?

The AR15 platform can be built as either a pistol or a rifle depending on how it was transferred.

Due to the vagaries of our gun laws and how they are currently interpreted by the ATF, which is beyond the scope of this thread, you cannot install a stock on a pistol as doing so it is then intended for 2 handed operation.

So, this would be a short- barreled rifle:



because it has a stock and a barrel of less than 16".

However, what Vaktathi has does not have a stock, in which case the barrel size is immaterial. What he has is an arm brace, which the ATF ruled was not considered a stock as it's ostensibly still designed for one handed operation.

So, pistol:



Short-barreled rifle:



Adding a vertical foregrip also would turn a pistol into a SBR. An angled foregrip is OK on a pistol, though.

So, pistol:



Short-barreled rifle:



¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Thanks for this...

I thought I was dumb that couldn't understand the difference.

O.o

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ indeed...

 Slinky wrote:
And that's a "pistol", right?

MH comp was fun, provisional results make me joint winner, but we'll see how the final scores pan out...

Choice!

 Ouze wrote:
If that MPX fired a caliber that was longer, like a 5.56, then that would be pretty much as close to a bolter as possible in terms of profile.

I had thought my next "pistol" would be a Scorpion EVO with a MP brace:

Spoiler:

but now IDK, that MPX does look pretty baller.

Sig also has the Rattler in 300 blackout.

Bigger bullet so MOAR alter like!

I really like the MPX though, and didn't want to start a new caliber just now.


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 Slinky wrote:
And that's a "pistol", right?

MH comp was fun, provisional results make me joint winner, but we'll see how the final scores pan out...

Very cool!

(and yeah, that is a 'pistol')

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
As I've said before, I like watching gun channels to see old muskets being blasted

Now and again though, you get comedy gold. 2-3 years ago, I posted on this very thread about the Cobray company.

If memory serves, no American dakka member confessed to ever having owned one.

After watching this, I don't blame you

What an awful gun.

While not quite that bad, I'd love to just chuck my USFA Zip .22LR into the river. It's never worked right, but at least it was cool looking and cheap. I'm primarily keeping it around in case there is ever a "gun buy back" program. I'd love to get $250 in credit for a handgun I only paid $180 for new.

The Rattler is very neat as well. I think I like the MPX better for looks though, it really is very bolter-like. I also already have a 300blk sbr and a 300blk pistol so I feel like I got that niche filled.

People seem to love those little PCCs so I think that might be next for me.

Well, that or finally getting that deagle. I got my last ar pistol cerakoted (no pics yet) in that black on grey tiger stripe scheme that you can get a stock deagle in which means now I think I pretty much gotta get one. I have wrestled this this decision for years at this point because I know the deagle is equal parts stupid and cool but it's really not that much money, so yolo i guess.

Yeah, I really like the MPX. Been waiting to get one for a while.

Sooooo. I’m bidding on a Romanian PSL complete build kit with an 80% lower. Let’s hope I win!

 Grey Templar wrote:
Sooooo. I’m bidding on a Romanian PSL complete build kit with an 80% lower. Let’s hope I win!

Did you win it?

 Ouze wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Sooooo. I’m bidding on a Romanian PSL complete build kit with an 80% lower. Let’s hope I win!

Did you win it?

Winning, but there's 12 days left on the auction. Though it seems the other bidders have given up since its now about the same price as what a PSL goes for when assembled.

edit: well someone just bid well above the absolute maximum I could afford. $1000 is more than what the gun is worth once its put together.... I don't get why they went that high. Its not a Dragunov.

Ah well. Always more more PSL's in the Warsaw pact, as the saying goes.

I finally went out and took some pics of my new build, a stripey boi. A local fellow did the cerakote very cheap and I'm pretty happy with it.

I'm still not sure what the final optic will be, the prostaff on there is just a placeholder.



I also am not sure if I will SBR it or just keep it a pistol. I got the lower engraved before the cerakote just in case though.

The important part of this story is the cerakote matches a option you can get on a factory deagle, so now I think I have to get one. Don't let your dreams be dreams!

I also think I am about done with the AR platform. I've built an AR10, an AR SBR in .300blk, and 2 AR pistols - one in .300blk and one in 5.56. I'm covered AR wise.

Awesome, that looks super fun and the cerakote looks great.

New Toys!

Top to bottom: Ruger Scout in .308, CZ Bren 805 Carbine, Tavor SAR


The Tavor is apparently a very early one, has a double digit serial number and a 2012 receiver production date on the dial (and a dimming tritium front sight post ). Didn't know that ahead of time, just ordered the cheapest deal I could find, I'm wondering how it got lost and stuck in the supply chain that long


The current collection, probably quite complete for a while

Man, that is quite the collection.

Jealous of the Tavor, it's a very cool looking gun.

Holy Gak, Vak! You planning an uprising?

Impressive.

So when you hear a bump in the night, which do you go for?

If society collapsed and you could only grab one, which would you grab?

War Drone wrote:Holy Gak, Vak! You planning an uprising?

Nah, I just happen to live in Portland

Monday I got to fight my way through traffic for almost an hour only to find the intersection by my apartment blockaded by a dozen police vehicles, because someone decided that it was a good idea to go on a multivehicle carjacking spree, muck up traffic on I5 by crashing and promptly crash again in another vehicle a block away from my apartment.

'Tis a magical place.

Ouze wrote:So when you hear a bump in the night, which do you go for?

Right now? The Ruger revolver, thats my carry gun and likely the only one I wouldnt have to spend time searching through boxes to find ammo and mags to load

Ideally, once I get it zeroed and have found a loading I really like, the 300 Blackout pistol/eventual SBR will be the home gun. The Scorpion Evo would probably be 2nd. Shooting off a 5.56 indoors in the dark without earpro sounds like a recipe for an instant migraine, and given my apartment setup and surroundings I'm not overly worried about overpenetration.

If society collapsed and you could only grab one, which would you grab?

total teotwaki and complete breakdown of the modern world? The milled AK (sam7r), that thing is built like a Vickers gun, it's a giant chunk of proper old world machined steel and would certainly outlive me in such a situation and anything I'd do to abuse it, its accurate enough to hit anything id realistically be shooting at (and probably never beyond a hundred yards or so) and 7.62x39 ammo is relatively plentiful. Not my favorite rifle to shoot, the trigger sucks, the rifle is heavy, the accuracy is not stellar, the ergonomics are mediocre, but it'll run until the end of time.