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If a farseer is in a wave serpent can he choose targets for his various psychic powers like normal?

Is there anything in the wave serpent entry that restricts him from targeting?
If not then he will target as normal.

For his Psychic shooting attacks, as long as the wave serpent has fire points he can target as normal.

Read the FAQ.
In short: No he cant, he can just target the wave serpent hes in.

DeathReaper wrote:
Is there anything in the wave serpent entry that restricts him from targeting?
If not then he will target as normal.

For his Psychic shooting attacks, as long as the wave serpent has fire points he can target as normal.

Since WS has 0 Fire Points, this means the Farseer can not use his Psychic Shooting attacks.

Nulipuli2 wrote:Read the FAQ.
In short: No he cant, he can just target the wave serpent hes in.

FAQ wrote:
Q: Can Psychic powers be used on a unit embarked on a
transport? (p50)
A: For simplicityʼs sake, the answer has to be a firm ʻNo,
unless the psyker himself is in the unit being transported

This only excludes units embarked in a transport as targets for the psychic powers,
it says nothing about the Farseer powers that do not require LoS (doom, guide, fortune)
not being usable on targets outside his transport that are not embarked in a transport themselves.


Edit: Summary:
The Farseer should be able to use doom/guide/fortune on unembarked units,
but not the psychic shooting attacks.
None of the powers can be used on embarked unis as per the FAQ.

Accersitus wrote:Summary:
The Farseer should be able to use doom/guide/fortune on unembarked units,
but not the psychic shooting attacks.
None of the powers can be used on embarked unis as per the FAQ.

This ^

For embarked Farseers.
Doom can be cast on any unembarked enemy unit within range.
Guide/Fortune can be cast on any unembarked friendly unit (and also the Farseers own unit) within range.
All three of these measure from the hull of the Farseers vehicle.

Eldritch storm, while not needing LOS is still a psychic shooting attack, so would need a fire point.
Mind war is a psychic shooting attack that needs LOS so would also need a fire points.
Both of these cannot be used while embarked, as no Eldar vehicle in the codex has any fire points.

dayve110 is correct on all points.

Why would Eldritch storm be different that the other powers that don't need LOS? I understand its a shooting attack, but if it doesn't need LOS, it shouldn't need a fire point.

Then again, I have all opentopped vehicles and no psykers, and its been about 2 years since I played as eldar, so I may be rusty on the psychic powers rules while embarked, so someone please enlighten me as to why.

Galador wrote:Why would Eldritch storm be different that the other powers that don't need LOS? I understand its a shooting attack, but if it doesn't need LOS, it shouldn't need a fire point.

"Shouldn't" is your opinion; "does" is the rule. Page 66 (Fire Points) does not make any exceptions for shooting attacks which don't need LOS. Otherwise you could embark an IG Mortar team into an allied Inquisition Land Raider, and shoot the mortar through the roof.

thanks, Mannahnin, as I said, I only have opentopped vehicles, so been a long time since I've had to worry about Fire points!!

Yeah. Fluff-wise it's one of those things where you don't necessarily picture Eldritch Storm as firing any sort of projectile; so whether it makes intuitive sense kind of depends on how you envision it.

But the rules, as always, are an abstraction and simplification.

The same rule also prevents SM Chapter Masters from calling in an Orbital Bombardment from inside a Landraider, even though fluff-wise there's no reason he couldn't call it in over the radio. Rules-wise, though, it counts as firing a weapon, so no fire points = no using it inside the LR.