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I'm glad someone asked that, I was too embarrassed to, and I don't even play the game

It looks like net-decks. Requires no skill to build, only money to assemble the components. From the top tier decks it looks like a draw from 8-9 expansions.

Common thing with CCGs...some excellent deck builders design a great deck, and EVERYONE copies it. Helps mitigate a lack of skill when card draw takes care of itself.

Meme-player is a pretty common term in card games for someone who actively goes against the meta focusing on making a deck around an unlikely wombo combo or something similar for fun. They're different from casual players in that they'll invest in making it, even if it's got a low winrate.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Meme-player is a pretty common term in card games for someone who actively goes against the meta focusing on making a deck around an unlikely wombo combo or something similar for fun. They're different from casual players in that they'll invest in making it, even if it's got a low winrate.

Never heard of it. It sounds great though!
I thought that was called "a narrative list". (or just plain, having actual fun list )
I might be a meme-player then, but to be honest, I was probably forced to become one because Im really bad at making competetiv lists.
Also, I get sick to my stomach each time I get the suggestion to spam the new "flavour of the month" unit or combo to win.

 Fayric wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Meme-player is a pretty common term in card games for someone who actively goes against the meta focusing on making a deck around an unlikely wombo combo or something similar for fun. They're different from casual players in that they'll invest in making it, even if it's got a low winrate.

Never heard of it. It sounds great though!
I thought that was called "a narrative list". (or just plain, having actual fun list )
I might be a meme-player then, but to be honest, I was probably forced to become one because Im really bad at making competetiv lists.
Also, I get sick to my stomach each time I get the suggestion to spam the new "flavour of the month" unit or combo to win.

It's honestly a great way to play sometimes. Your objective isn't really to win, it's to do something ridiculous or janky in the scope of the game and maybe win. I am not sure if it's possible with what's available in Underworlds as I've not played a game yet, but very easy in other games. It also helps your deck building due to there being no decks on the internet of them.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:

 Fayric wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Meme-player is a pretty common term in card games for someone who actively goes against the meta focusing on making a deck around an unlikely wombo combo or something similar for fun. They're different from casual players in that they'll invest in making it, even if it's got a low winrate.

Never heard of it. It sounds great though!
I thought that was called "a narrative list". (or just plain, having actual fun list )
I might be a meme-player then, but to be honest, I was probably forced to become one because Im really bad at making competetiv lists.
Also, I get sick to my stomach each time I get the suggestion to spam the new "flavour of the month" unit or combo to win.

It's honestly a great way to play sometimes. Your objective isn't really to win, it's to do something ridiculous or janky in the scope of the game and maybe win. I am not sure if it's possible with what's available in Underworlds as I've not played a game yet, but very easy in other games. It also helps your deck building due to there being no decks on the internet of them.

That brings some... unpleasant memories from MtG.

You can win with any deck if you roll enough crit.

some other factor might contribute like only drawing the cards you need, or opp have garbage starting hand.

Also a "meme players" are player who play for fun and not caring about the win (or so they should), which applied for every player who just play using what come in the box, or maybe they have all the cards but just like to put what ever cards that is considered bad that season in their deck.

"Hey can I play the game with just 1 box?" Sure, absolutely, just play for fun, not for the win. The fact is that if they manage to win against comp players is a meme itself. But for this game, rolling the dice is still a big part of it, so that sort of thing shouln't be impossible.

Chopstick wrote:
You can win with any deck if you roll enough crit.

some other factor might contribute like only drawing the cards you need, or opp have garbage starting hand.

Also a "meme players" are player who play for fun and not caring about the win (or so they should), which applied for every player who just play using what come in the box, or maybe they have all the cards but just like to put what ever cards that is considered bad that season in their deck.

"Hey can I play the game with just 1 box?" Sure, absolutely, just play for fun, not for the win. The fact is that if they manage to win against comp players is a meme itself. But for this game, rolling the dice is still a big part of it, so that sort of thing shouln't be impossible.

Saying someone is a meme player just for playing stuff out of the box isn't a meme player and I can see why that'd be insulting to someone who doesn't play competitively. I have the starting warbands because I've just started, does that make me a bad player? Someone who shoves bad cards into their deck isn't a meme player either. Meme decks are very specific things, not just a case of "oh I brought my starter deck and beat a comp deck, lol what a meme".

It feels like there needs to be a joke or a story to the deck / team. Some 'thing' to it that makes it worth telling a story about it at the pub after the game.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:


Saying someone is a meme player just for playing stuff out of the box isn't a meme player and I can see why that'd be insulting to someone who doesn't play competitively. I have the starting warbands because I've just started, does that make me a bad player?

Your word, not mine, never said or mention anything about "bad player". You called yourself bad, i told you to play for fun. playing even knowing that your deck isn't optimized, a win is a win, a loss is.. well just another game. I guess people prefer being called casual than "meme player"

The "bad player" are the toxic one, which is not fun to play with.

That said I do wish to see a player with 1 or only a few expansion to win a tourney, that'd be glorious,

I don't play Underworlds, I mostly follow the thread because I think the models are pretty, but to kind of use an example from a game I play, Star Wars Imperial Assault.

Casual: I have these models from the main box and I've made my list based on this plus another couple of purchases.

Meme: MRRRRWWWRRRMMM ALL WOOKIEES, with cards based on pulling peoples arms off.

 Compel wrote:
I don't play Underworlds, I mostly follow the thread because I think the models are pretty, but to kind of use an example from a game I play, Star Wars Imperial Assault.

Casual: I have these models from the main box and I've made my list based on this plus another couple of purchases.

Meme: MRRRRWWWRRRMMM ALL WOOKIEES, with cards based on pulling peoples arms off.

It doesn't really work like that in Underworlds, because your deck is limited to only having one of any given card. You can't gain an advantage by buying several boxes of the "best" warband this month.
There's no doubt that having all the currently usable warbands (and hence cards) gives a competitive player an advantage, but it's not like anyone's going to be spamming multiples of any card because that's not allowed.
The newer warbands definitely work better out of the box (using faction-only cards) than many of the earlier warbands, but I don't think any of them are really great like that. Hrothgorn's faction deck isn't even tournament-legal.

Chopstick wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:


Saying someone is a meme player just for playing stuff out of the box isn't a meme player and I can see why that'd be insulting to someone who doesn't play competitively. I have the starting warbands because I've just started, does that make me a bad player?

Your word, not mine, never said or mention anything about "bad player". You called yourself bad, i told you to play for fun. playing even knowing that your deck isn't optimized, a win is a win, a loss is.. well just another game. I guess people prefer being called casual than "meme player"

The "bad player" are the toxic one, which is not fun to play with.

That said I do wish to see a player with 1 or only a few expansion to win a tourney, that'd be glorious,

I mean, the implication was there as you addressed "bad cards", but I'll hold my hands up, I did say bad player myself. I didn't say I was bad though

However, I will say that that is the common attitude from competitive players, and addressing everyone who isn't a competitive player a "meme-player" is very inaccurate.

Sneak peak for 1 man in the new warband.

New Visions of Glory article:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/05/say-hello-to-hedkrakka-the-orruk-taking-advice-from-a-pet-snake/

Well that’s annoying. We’ve already seen that silhouette.

Is it me, or is the art on those new cards oddly cartoony?

 aku-chan wrote:
Is it me, or is the art on those new cards oddly cartoony?

Glad I'm not the only one who was wondering that. Definitely more... paunchy and not just the Shaman.

It could be because it's not David Gallagher drawing the Underworlds card art now. As far as I know he doesn't draw for GW any more.

I quite like the cartoony style of these.

Starblood Stalkers preorder on the 20th:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/12/what-brings-the-seraphon-to-direchasm-saving-the-world-of-course/

Wow. They circled back to talk about the current Warband. And release them!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/12/what-brings-the-seraphon-to-direchasm-saving-the-world-of-course/

The Starblood Stalkers are available to pre-order from Saturday the 20th of March.

The Seraphon team have a pre-order date now - 20th March.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/03/12/what-brings-the-seraphon-to-direchasm-saving-the-world-of-course/

The wife and I are just getting into Underworlds. How do sets/cards/warbands rotating out of organized play work? Are the season 3 warbands about to be invalidated? Is it even worth hunting down season 2 warbands?

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
The wife and I are just getting into Underworlds. How do sets/cards/warbands rotating out of organized play work? Are the season 3 warbands about to be invalidated? Is it even worth hunting down season 2 warbands?

The warbands and their faction specific cards are fine, it’s the universal cards that rotate out.

Sure is a lot of lore around Beastgrave. What are the chances GW is going to move this story forward via an Underworld competition? Whichever warband of the 8 this season wins the tournament accomplishes their goal, that sort of thing.

Skinks win, they trick the mountain to destroy themselves. Lumineth calm it, orruks kill it, Hedonites turn it into the chaos diety, etc.

 ImAGeek wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
The wife and I are just getting into Underworlds. How do sets/cards/warbands rotating out of organized play work? Are the season 3 warbands about to be invalidated? Is it even worth hunting down season 2 warbands?

The warbands and their faction specific cards are fine, it’s the universal cards that rotate out.

How often/quickly does that happen? It sounds as if worrying about buying "everything" for access to all the cards, is disincentivized if they do it each season?

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
The wife and I are just getting into Underworlds. How do sets/cards/warbands rotating out of organized play work? Are the season 3 warbands about to be invalidated? Is it even worth hunting down season 2 warbands?

The warbands and their faction specific cards are fine, it’s the universal cards that rotate out.

How often/quickly does that happen? It sounds as if worrying about buying "everything" for access to all the cards, is disincentivized if they do it each season?

It seems to be every 3 sets, the universals get rotated out of the oldest set.

An important notation is that most Universals that get rotated out get replaced by a new card that does something similar but is less of a "must have" or just gets reprinted with new art.

I would love to get my hand on Khagra's Ravagers before Seraphon. They were supposed to be released 5 weeks ago but I don't know any shop in Finland that received any. But hey, at least we got our first wave of Codex: Death Guard this week.

GW's distribution has been off the rails since the double blows of Covid and Brexit. I have $1500 worth of orders in limbo because their shipping, communication with stores, etc... has just completely broken down.