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So one of the abilities the Jokaero Weaponsmiths can do is improve all the members of their unit's Armor Save by 1 for the game. This roll occurs when the unit deploys.

What if an IC with a 2+ Armor Save is part of that squad when it deploys? Would they gain this benefit if it was rolled? Is there a rule against 1+ Armor Saves (didn't see one in the FAQ but don't have my BRB nearby).

It would be kind of cool to see 'nigh invulnerable' Jokaero-modifed Termie or Artificer armor...

Saves can't be made to go better then 2+, invul, armor, FNP or otherwise. It's somewhere in the BRB. WBB on the other hand, not being a save...

Yes, oddly enough there is a rule against having an armour save better than a 2+. it states it cannot be done.

Very early on, page 8 or 9 potentially?

Whew! Actually, I'm glad to hear it.

pg 6 actually
"Saves at best can be modified to 2+"

The Jakaero ability actually just gives a 5+ invul save unless I'm missing something...

lucasbuffalo wrote:The Jakaero ability actually just gives a 5+ invul save unless I'm missing something...

The Reinforced armor "inconceivable customization"(a d6 result of 3) lowers other members' Armor Save by 1.

Ah, read the wrong one. I thought I had seen it before, just missed it when looking over the list again.

Well, I can remember in some Tempus Fugitives-datasheet, there were rules for primarchs with primarch armour: 1+ armour save ( roll of 1 always fails), so I thought it would be able to save on 2+ even against plasma guns and other AP 2 stuff...


The jokaero wording indeed... sucks!
I think that your armor save is completely changed ( i.e. from flak armour to carapace armour, or carapace armour to power armour equivalents..), so Servitors could save against AP 4 weapons.
It does not state to "+1" your armour save rolls...

And your power armor into artificer armor.
And your Terminator armor into... Terminator armor... :(

motorhead1945 wrote:Well, I can remember in some Tempus Fugitives-datasheet, there were rules for primarchs with primarch armour: 1+ armour save ( roll of 1 always fails), so I thought it would be able to save on 2+ even against plasma guns and other AP 2 stuff...


The jokaero wording indeed... sucks!
I think that your armor save is completely changed ( i.e. from flak armour to carapace armour, or carapace armour to power armour equivalents..), so Servitors could save against AP 4 weapons.
It does not state to "+1" your armour save rolls...

@35 points and a 1/6 chance* that the armor is upgraded: I do not think it will be all that game Changing.

Heck the same 1/6 chance* to get it is there when 2-3 Jokero are taken; and there is a 0% chance when 4 or more are taken.


*That 1/6 chance also has a 1/6 chance to get 2 more chances of 1/6.