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By the way, where are the one click bundles? I'd love a bundle with twelve boxes of Dragon Ogres or something as nonsensical as the 40K ones.

 angel of ecstasy wrote:
By the way, where are the one click bundles? I'd love a bundle with twelve boxes of Dragon Ogres or something as nonsensical as the 40K ones.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod1940163a

Sadly there isn't one for Dragon Ogres. They expect you to type 12 in the quantity box. Madness I say.


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Theophony wrote:
Did GW figure out that people are buying everything through the discounters so now they have increased the price to where they get the same amount through them. I know it's worded poorly, but I'm on my not so smart phone.

Example. GW wants to make $10.00 profit off of one box. They have to mark it up $20.00 so that through the discount chain they still get the $10.00 from the discounters, and $30.00 through anyone crazy enough to buy at their store or their site.

It would not surprise me.

 shingouki wrote:
True,but what is there we can really do?People will say vote with your wallet but i really like a lot of GW stuff.

Then go ahead and buy it. Just know that you're only supporting the bloated machine that is Games Workshop, and the methods they endorse, while you do it. Realistically, the only thing you can do to have a hope of changing GW's policies is to not buy their products.

 Flashman wrote:

 angel of ecstasy wrote:
By the way, where are the one click bundles? I'd love a bundle with twelve boxes of Dragon Ogres or something as nonsensical as the 40K ones.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440004a&prodId=prod1940163a

Sadly there isn't one for Dragon Ogres. They expect you to type 12 in the quantity box. Madness I say.

Not available in Swedeland. I would start WoC, but now that there isn't a one click bundle... No money from me, GW

Theophony wrote:
Did GW figure out that people are buying everything through the discounters so now they have increased the price to where they get the same amount through them. I know it's worded poorly, but I'm on my not so smart phone.

Example. GW wants to make $10.00 profit off of one box. They have to mark it up $20.00 so that through the discount chain they still get the $10.00 from the discounters, and $30.00 through anyone crazy enough to buy at their store or their site.

The only problem with this thesis is that GW does this every year. Either they're constantly in a race to catch up with the discounters prices, or this is simply par for the course.

Every release now pushes the limits of pricing to new highs. GW no longer has any respect for its own price points for even two consecutive releases. Discounts barely give pricing that was full price just a few short years ago. The models are mostly pretty cool looking, but the pricing is absurd and fiendish. GW doesn't seem to be concerned with volume of sales on certain kits at all any longer.

Cheaper for me at the moment to use Rackham miniatures to make an army than GW ones. Thinking that might be the way to go, with other 3rd party miniatures as well from places like Enigma and Red Box Games. Hell, even Todd McFarlane Spawn toys of the Bible Tremor and Vandalizer are better options for the big beasties. His "Gemini" creature already makes an awesome Hellcanon.

I was already determined not to do business as much as possible with GW. This just steels my resolve that much further.

GW's business model seems to be: Raising prices faster than customers and shops decide to drop GW products.
Worked for a few years, but now the time is over with 30-50% price hikes.

Think of it as an investment. Buy it now, and in 2 years you'll be able to sell it used for 50% and still make a profit!

Profit? It's still a loss for your own wallet though...

 Malika2 wrote:
Profit? It's still a loss for your own wallet though...

He's saying you would sell it for 50% of it's future value, not the value it is at present.

Although he is jesting, some GW stuff does accumulate in value if you don't use it (although it takes a few years).

Thank god for one-click bundles. I wouldn't have known what to buy otherwise!

Anyway is it me or is the Vortex beast one of the worst models GW has ever released? I get warp beasts are meant to look disorientating and hideous, but they're going too far. Such things could be cool in art/fiction but not necessarily translate well into the tabletop.

 Harriticus wrote:
Anyway is it me or is the Vortex beast one of the worst models GW has ever released? I get warp beasts are meant to look disorientating and hideous, but they're going too far. Such things could be cool in art/fiction but not necessarily translate well into the tabletop.

I quite like it, but I accept it's a bit of a marmite piece

EDIT - I wouldn't part with £50 for it though

I absolutely refuse to buy any of the kits until I've laid eyes on the book and know what costs what points-wise and what does what.

I've stung myself far too often by impulse buying a whole range before.

Even if I order anything it'll be from Wayland, I refuse to pay 50 quid for a single kit, it's not like its a baneblade or anything.

i did notice an influx on the Darklands kickstarter when those prices were revealed...

Well nobody liked finecast, so from the rumours elsewhere on the page they're going to dump it and go all plastic

so they need to massivly increase prices to pay for the new moulds (and a few more space ferrari's for the board)

If you'd all embraced finecast they wouldn't need to have done this (and would have made do with meerly large price increases)

LOL

 Fafnir wrote:

Theophony wrote:
Did GW figure out that people are buying everything through the discounters so now they have increased the price to where they get the same amount through them. I know it's worded poorly, but I'm on my not so smart phone.

Example. GW wants to make $10.00 profit off of one box. They have to mark it up $20.00 so that through the discount chain they still get the $10.00 from the discounters, and $30.00 through anyone crazy enough to buy at their store or their site.

The only problem with this thesis is that GW does this every year. Either they're constantly in a race to catch up with the discounters prices, or this is simply par for the course.

That's what they are doing. They still make same number of kits, save shipping as they send in bulk to the discounters, and still make more money. They see the boards like dakkadakka where everyone complains about price, but will ultimately still buy from the discounters. Wham price hike.

On topic, I would like to still play 40k and fantasy, especially a chaos hoard, but not with these prices.

Well, I rather like the new stuff. The Slaughterbrute/Mutalith kit is awesome, the Dragon Ogres are impressive, the Chariot is cool, the Forsaken are OK, and all the new characters are fine.

£50 is a little bit excessive for the Slaughterbrute/Mutalith, but it's probably bigger than it looks in the magazine.

I guess we're seeing the next price increase early then?

$60 for 3 Dragon Ogres, and $58 for Throgg?

Ouch.

I liked them.... but I don't like them that much!

 Alpharius wrote:
I guess we're seeing the next price increase early then?

$60 for 3 Dragon Ogres, and $58 for Throgg?

Ouch.

I liked them.... but I don't like them that much!

Throgg is a leap of madness. Agreed.

The Dragon Ogre price isn't that bad IMO, as they look to be on a Chariot base rather than the standard monster sized base. Still expensive, but they do look to be quite beefy models.

 Alpharius wrote:
I guess we're seeing the next price increase early then?

$60 for 3 Dragon Ogres, and $58 for Throgg?

Ouch.

I liked them.... but I don't like them that much!

I'm sorry, WHAT?!?! $58 for a single troll miniature? That has to be a misprint, right?

 Ouze wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Just noticed the big guy's name: "Slaughterbrute"

They could only branch out That far from 40k's "Maulerfiend"? Really?

Other possible upcoming monsters:

Killermonster
Murderyheti
Assaultgoliath

Well, consider that idea stolen.

This is my favorite Dakka post in... in... years. Maybe a decade.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I guess we're seeing the next price increase early then?

$60 for 3 Dragon Ogres, and $58 for Throgg?

Ouch.

I liked them.... but I don't like them that much!

I'm sorry, WHAT?!?! $58 for a single troll miniature? That has to be a misprint, right?

Only $58? That's a steal compared to what we're paying just north of you guys. $70 for that fether up here.

If Canadians are paying $70 then I have a strange feeling that it will cost $80-something AU (maybe even 90, knowing GW...) and $90-something NZ...


So glad I don't want to start WoC any time soon... or ever, for that matter...

EDIT: $96 AU for the troll... Well, looks like New Zealanders are going to have to pay $100+ NZ for that troll if they want the mini so bad...

EDIT2:

Throgg=$96 AU
Slaughterbrute / Mutalith Vortex Beast=$96 AU
Dragon Ogres=$79 AU
Chaos Chariot=$55 AU
Forsaken=$70 AU
Chaos Lord=$25 AU
Vilitch the Curseling=$39 AU
Warhammer: Warriors of Chaos=$83 AU
Warhammer Battle Magic: Warriors of Chaos=$18 AU

out of all that, only the Chariot, Chaos Lord and Army Book don't completely shock me...

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
If Canadians are paying $70 then I have a strange feeling that it will cost $80-something AU (maybe even 90, knowing GW...) and $90-something NZ...


So glad I don't want to start WoC any time soon... or ever, for that matter...

I always like to look at the Australian prices for GW's stuff when I need a good laugh; The Bloodfeast Boneslaughterbrute or whatever it's called is a bargain, clocking in at $96 AUD, and that box of ten Forsaken can be yours for the low, low price of $70 AUD. NZD is $113 and $81 respectively.

 catharsix wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Just noticed the big guy's name: "Slaughterbrute"

They could only branch out That far from 40k's "Maulerfiend"? Really?

Other possible upcoming monsters:

Killermonster
Murderyheti
Assaultgoliath

Well, consider that idea stolen.

This is my favorite Dakka post in... in... years. Maybe a decade.

As much as I normally cannot stand snide anti-GW digs...

This is hilarious.

Also, and I am absolutely not trolling when I say this...

I like the Razorgor. I think it looks pretty cool.

Being curious, I just checked: Throgg is 113 NZ $, that is 95 US$ !

The Forsaken are classic-you can get a whole 30 man "horde" for only £90 just £3 each for plastic??
For a mere £300 you can get an actual Horde (just 10 boxes) and that will be ONE whole unit for your army.

Lets hope some Russian firm decides to knock out a box of 100 armoured evil warriors some time soon.

Y'know I would totally buy that tentacle thing if it came with a Japanese school girl/princess model.



And I'd pick up a box of the mutants for bitz but FIFTY DOLLARS?

And it's really not even that good a kit, not much an improvement on the 10 year old mutation sprue.


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 Ouze wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Just noticed the big guy's name: "Slaughterbrute"

They could only branch out That far from 40k's "Maulerfiend"? Really?

Other possible upcoming monsters:

Killermonster
Murderyheti
Assaultgoliath

Well, consider that idea stolen.

Can Cafe Press make these? I'd buy a set.


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Oh and because someone has to say it...



So...

This was a higher priority than plastic battle sisters.

Surprised to see the two big monsters aren't on 100x150 bases. Although that does fit with the latest books having two of those type of creations on chariot bases.

I'd like to see someone like Tre from Red Box knock out some alternate Dragon Ogres. Hell, just make the bottom half, as I can make the top half myself.

Anyone got a good alternative for Dragon Ogre lower halves? Something similarly scaled would be good. Non-GW parts preferred.