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Was there an official clarification about which players deck the crit comes from ? Locally we've been playing it as the opponents, to avoid muddling cards but there could be a fractional benefit to pulling Blinded Pilot etc from your own deck

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Question regarding Adaptive Ailerons:

If you equip Adaptive Ailerons and tie2, can you shed stress to perform consecutive red manoeuvres by banking with the ailerons?
   
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Turnip Jedi wrote:I'll Show You the Dark Side

Was there an official clarification about which players deck the crit comes from ? Locally we've been playing it as the opponents, to avoid muddling cards but there could be a fractional benefit to pulling Blinded Pilot etc from your own deck


It comes from your opponent's deck. I've never seen it played otherwise though I don't believe there's any official clarification about it. Also, if it didn't, you could use the old damage deck and put Injured Pilot on the enemy of your choice which would make it even more powerful than it already is.

Smacks wrote:Question regarding Adaptive Ailerons:

If you equip Adaptive Ailerons and tie2, can you shed stress to perform consecutive red manoeuvres by banking with the ailerons?


You can't use the ailerons while stressed, so no.
   
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cheers Slip, it's just the card refer to "the damage deck" but likewise I've never seen it done any other way, its again fractional but thinning the other deck does increase Direct HIT density for Grandpa Vader

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Slipspace wrote:
Smacks wrote:Question regarding Adaptive Ailerons:

If you equip Adaptive Ailerons and tie2, can you shed stress to perform consecutive red manoeuvres by banking with the ailerons?


You can't use the ailerons while stressed, so no.


However, to answer the more general question, "this maneuver becomes green" can apply to "do a white {maneuver}" effects and allow you to clear stress. If not for the explicit ban on using adaptive ailerons while stressed you could use this combo to clear stress.

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Little question concerning the timing of Jyn Erso and Jake Farrell. If I were to use that crew and target Jake to receive focus tokens, and there is more than one involved... would Jake be able to perform both a boost and a barrel roll off of those multiple tokens?

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Yep, you're assigned multiple tokens individually, so each one has the opportunity to trigger Jake's ability. Subject to the usual once per action per turn restrictions etc..

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interesting situation arose tonight, and I'd swear I saw that happen at a tourney.

Someone hit me with a tractor beam and I was within a few hair's breadth of the edge of the battlefield, and he couldn't barrel roll me into his ship. So assuming he does not forgo his option to move me, I argued he could move me out of the play area.

Some people were arguing that no, it was illegal to do so. From my reading, the only illegal move with a tractor beam hit is to cause the tractor-ee to overlap another ship. All other moves seem to be fair game.

What gives, Dakka?

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 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
interesting situation arose tonight, and I'd swear I saw that happen at a tourney.

Someone hit me with a tractor beam and I was within a few hair's breadth of the edge of the battlefield, and he couldn't barrel roll me into his ship. So assuming he does not forgo his option to move me, I argued he could move me out of the play area.

Some people were arguing that no, it was illegal to do so. From my reading, the only illegal move with a tractor beam hit is to cause the tractor-ee to overlap another ship. All other moves seem to be fair game.

What gives, Dakka?


Can't barrel roll off the edge. Inherent to Barrel Roll, not Tractor Beam.

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You can not tractor beam a ship off the table. The tractor beam rules state that it is a boost or barrel roll, so you follow the rules for boosting and barrel rolling unless explicitly stated otherwise (such as tractor beaming onto obstacles). You can not boost or barrel roll off the table, and the tractor beam rules do not mention any change to this rule. So in your situation, with all three possible tractor beam moves either overlapping another ship or being off the table, your opponent would not be able to move your ship and you would only suffer the agility penalty.

(Of course you can tractor beam a ship into a position where no possible maneuver next turn will keep it on the table, as it isn't immediately off the table.)

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Thanks in advance! Couple of questions:

1 - When using Backdraft can you also use Accuracy corrector to get 2 hits + a Critical when shooting from you Aux Arc?

2 - When using Backdraft and Special Ops training can you use Accuracy Corrector on both your primary arc attack and secondary arc attack and his ability?

3 - Does Outmaneuver work with your Aux Arc Also?
   
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 Maddok_Death wrote:
Thanks in advance! Couple of questions:

1 - When using Backdraft can you also use Accuracy corrector to get 2 hits + a Critical when shooting from you Aux Arc?

2 - When using Backdraft and Special Ops training can you use Accuracy Corrector on both your primary arc attack and secondary arc attack and his ability?

3 - Does Outmaneuver work with your Aux Arc Also?


#1. Adding a dice counts as modifying your dice, so no. Backdraft is the only TIE/SF that doesn't want Accuracy Corrector. The effects are simultaneous so you decide their order. You can add the Crit before the Accuracy Corrector effect happens, but then the crit goes away with the other results. You cannot add the crit afterward because Accuracy Corrector doesn't allow further dice modification.
#2. Better with other TIE/SF but yes, you can use accuracy corrector on both attacks.
#3. Outside their arc is outside their arc.

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1) I'd say no because you add the crit result before canceling the results to get 2 hits. Also AC says the dice may not be modified again. Adding a result is considered modification.

2) I'd say that any /sf with AC can use it in both arcs.

3) Yes. The back arc is still an arc, so just like tactician works in the mobile arc of a lancer, outmaneuver works in both arcs
   
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Can someone who has a brain tell me when the Lt. Kestal (TIE/ag) ability kicks in? From the wording of the card alone it does not specify. Is it during 'attacker modifies dice'? which it seems it should be, but if it is then doesn't her ability actually do nothing most of the time?

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I would assume during the "attackers Mod" stage

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Step 5i on the flow chart? Makes sense. I wish they included cancelling dice on the chart rather than have it all over the show (crackshot/accuracy corrector/Wampa).

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Question about the targeting sync:

If a ship uses the tl of a different ship with target sync to fire homing missiles, can the firing ship spend the targeting sync tl to reroll?

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ingtaer wrote:
Can someone who has a brain tell me when the Lt. Kestal (TIE/ag) ability kicks in? From the wording of the card alone it does not specify. Is it during 'attacker modifies dice'? which it seems it should be, but if it is then doesn't her ability actually do nothing most of the time?


It's during the "attacker modifies defense dice" step as it is clearly a case of the attacker modifying defense dice. But it's far from a "do nothing" ability. By canceling those focus and blank results you prevent your opponent from turning them into evades. Yeah, you don't get to cancel their evade after they wasted a focus token to create it, but it's still gone. And it's especially powerful against autothrusters, something very important on a turret ship.


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Apostasus wrote:
Question about the targeting sync:

If a ship uses the tl of a different ship with target sync to fire homing missiles, can the firing ship spend the targeting sync tl to reroll?

My instincts say no, but I've been wrong before


Incorrect. The firing ship CAN spend the target lock to re-roll dice. From the FAQ:

Q: What are examples of game effects that instruct a player
to spend a target lock?
A: The cost for a secondary weapon such as Proton Torpedoes, using pilot
abilities like Lieutenant Colzet, or spending a target lock during the "Modify Attack Dice" step to reroll attack dice are all examples of spending a target lock. Removing a target lock or assigning a blue target lock token to
another ship are not examples of spending a target lock.

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One nagging question:

Scum Nym means I can detonate bombs at Range 1 of me and not get damage right? Right?

Another really weird question but it gave me an idea for bumpmasters. Snap Shot. Since the ship is a turret, can you use that EPT 360 degrees?

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Thats how we read Nym as well.

For Snapshot its a secondary weapon so it is useable in arc only. Compare the wording to any of the turrets which all stipulate 'even outside of arc'.

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 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Scum Nym means I can detonate bombs at Range 1 of me and not get damage right? Right?


Correct. You may ignore friendly bombs, period, no limit on which parts you ignore. Unless you want to take damage for some odd reason you ignore the damage entirely. This makes Genius + dial-reveal bombs a good combo.

Another really weird question but it gave me an idea for bumpmasters. Snap Shot. Since the ship is a turret, can you use that EPT 360 degrees?


No. Unless explicitly given permission to do so weapons can not fire outside of a ship's primary (forward) arc. A ship with a turret primary weapon has that explicit permission, but only for its primary weapon. While snap shot takes up an EPT slot instead of one of the more common weapon slots it is still a weapon, and follows all the normal rules for them.

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It would have been rather strong. But thanks for the head's up on Nym.

I guess I'll see if I'm the only one who thought it was somewhat worth it or not.

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Bit of a silly one but with the new Vaksai title you can have multiple mods, so can you stack G-chips ?

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 Turnip Jedi wrote:
Bit of a silly one but with the new Vaksai title you can have multiple mods, so can you stack G-chips ?


No. The title explicitly says "three different modification upgrades".

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Boo, curse my lazy reading (lack of0 skills

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Had this pop up a few weeks ago and never did find out the answer.

I had a Nym, with Genius and bomblet generator, at 1 hull, with stunned pilot crit. I was in a precarious position since I could end up being blocked by either of his 2 scurrgs if I had bumped either one would I have to deal the 1 damage before doing a Genius drop or do I get the decide the order in which they happen?

I think its the second option.
   
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Miradorm wrote:
Had this pop up a few weeks ago and never did find out the answer.

I had a Nym, with Genius and bomblet generator, at 1 hull, with stunned pilot crit. I was in a precarious position since I could end up being blocked by either of his 2 scurrgs if I had bumped either one would I have to deal the 1 damage before doing a Genius drop or do I get the decide the order in which they happen?

I think its the second option.


It's the second. Both trigger after completing your maneuver, so as the controlling player of both effects you get to choose which order they happen in.

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Just wondering, can Rexler Brath (defender) spend a focus to flip up a damage card dealt by the harpooned! Conditions?

Rexler ability: "after you perform an attack that deals at least one damage card..."

Harpooned: "When you are hit by an attack if there is at least 1 uncanceled critical result ... discard this card and receive 1 facedown Damage card."

Kinda a corner case, but it could be fun...
   
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I'm erring tentatively on No, I think its the condition trigger dealing the card rather than Rexlars attack

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