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2019/10/03 12:58:40
Subject: The DakkaDakka Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread
I did get up at 8 o'clock this morning to watch AEW, defo agree it was overbooked!
They obviously wanted to set up the Jerico vs The Elite storyline but they did way too much of it in one night imo.
The Pac vs Hangman fight dragged a little for me and I prefer the Genie girl or Samurai girl over Riho.
Saying all that though, still enjoyed it and will be watching the show next week. With Lucha Brothers, Young Bucks, Santana+Ortiz, SCU (the list goes on!) the tag team stable is looking great and I'm really looking forward to those matches in the future.
Individual matches tend to have too much rolling around on the floor for me, tag team matches are more action packed!
2019/10/06 10:54:22
Subject: Re:The DakkaDakka Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread
Although a mate who watched it on there said some parts were cut, namely he didn't see the MJF vs Cutler match at all, nor Jack Evans/Angelico interrupting the Jay & Silent Bob interview. I'll continue to acquire it in my own special way if they're going to be dropping whole matches!
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
2019/10/06 16:42:52
Subject: Re:The DakkaDakka Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread
Ah I did not know that. Could've had a lie in I guess... it wasn't too bad though as the birds were singing and I had a nice breakfast Bit strange to have it on catch-up before it has even been on T.V.!
The loss of a match is not ideal, was it any good?
2019/10/06 17:28:49
Subject: Re:The DakkaDakka Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread
Kroem wrote: Ah I did not know that. Could've had a lie in I guess... it wasn't too bad though as the birds were singing and I had a nice breakfast Bit strange to have it on catch-up before it has even been on T.V.!
The loss of a match is not ideal, was it any good?
Well I'm an MJF fan, and I liked that he cut his own music immediately so he could come down the ramp insulting Cutler and the fans on the mic instead. The match itself was only a couple of minutes long (I saw some speculation it was ended early due to a legit injury to Cutler).
I'm still waiting for MJF to find his place in the roster - he almost won the Battle Royale that got Hangman Page the title shot, then made some big claims that he should get the shot instead, but that faded away as summer went on. He was given the 'honour' of insulting Bret Hart during the title belt unveiling. He came down to the ring with Cody for the Shawn Spears match and was making noises about being Cody's best friend, but was then nowhere to be seen during the various Jericho run ins during the week. It's weird, he seems to be on the periphery of some of the central storylines and then suddenly isn't involved at all and is only seen on Dynamite squashing a guy making his debut.
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“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
2019/10/07 10:19:49
Subject: Re:The DakkaDakka Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread
Just thought I'd pop back in to say I've been watching AEW: Dynamite every week and am absolutely loving it!
I even started watching AEW: Dark on youtube too...
I'm really enjoying the Hangman and Kenny storyline atm, and seeing the Cody vs MJF rivalry heating up!
2020/02/09 16:16:27
Subject: The DakkaDakka Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread
I for one am looking forward to Drew ‘actually a proper Wrestler’ McIntyre inevitably defeating Boring Brock The Part Timers Part Timer Plot Armour Can’t Even Work The Mic Three Moves And One Trick Lesnar at Wrestlemania.
I very much respect Brock when it comes to MMA. Who couldn’t? Dude has skills. But when it comes to Wrasslin’, I find him dead weight and so very, incredibly, crushingly dull.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, and at Royal Rumble? One got the distinct sense that Daniel Bryan’s heart just wasn’t in the plot, given how Bray Wyatt just ended up, sort of winning.
I mean, the match was far from as flaccid as Wyatt vs Orton, when ‘scary maggots’ were projected onto the ring because apparently spoopy. But man. The end just didn’t get over with me.
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I did see a clip of Edge returning for the Royal Rumble, that was pretty cool. Also went back to watch one of the matches from his scumbag days against Jeff Hardy, it reminded me just how fantastic Jeff Hardy was!
2020/02/10 12:15:46
Subject: The DakkaDakka Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread
Edge was a standout moment, but then of course he was!
Worst bit about the Royal Rumble was just how long Lesnar was allowed to 'one shot' for.
Sure, build the hype for when he get's a pod shot then lobbed out the ring neat as you please. But man. They blew it. If only it was a champion with actually charisma (remember, this is only a criticism of Brock's place within the WWE).
The Women's Rumble was amazing. So much fight. So much variety. I've said it before and I'll say it again, but it's the Women's Division keeping me subscribed. They absolutely nailed the feel with the Women's Revolution, and it's barely slowed down since. Sure there are a couple of damp squibs (Tamina....) but the vast majority absolutely kill it in the ring.
The other matches were solid, apart from the end of Wyatt/Bryan. It just.....sort of ended, and in no way did it feel like Wyatt had actually earned it.
I'm yet to see AEW, but have only heard positive things about it. And as all competition is good competition, WWE desperately need a bit of spit and polish on their line up. Time for donkeys like Lesnar to get less limelight. Go with more interesting heel turns. Stop, take stock, really look at why NXT and the Women's Division are getting Over with the crowd. By no means directly replicate, but adapt.
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I'm yet to see AEW, but have only heard positive things about it.
You should definitely check it out. The weekly shows are available on the ITV hub app and broadcast on ITV4 and the PPVs are on Fite (and probably also available elsewhere for free for less scrupulous persons ).
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2020/02/10 17:04:39
Subject: Re:The DakkaDakka Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread
There's a limit to how much wrestling a man can watch to be fair, I think choosing a brand and sticking with it is the most practical way of doing things when every brand has weekly, three hour programs.
2020/02/12 14:59:34
Subject: The DakkaDakka Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread
As of today, and the Saudi Super Showdown, your two heavyweight champions are:
Brock Lesnar (RAW, WWE Champion)
Goldberg (Smackdown, WWE Universal Champion)
Yes, that's right - two part-timers, both arguably past their primes, are the standard bearers.
One, presumably, so that he can feud with Roman Reigns, with the fans FINALLY getting behind him.
The other, hopefully, will lose to McIntyre at Wrestlemania.
Meanwhile, NXT puts out pretty solid shows, but still manages to look like the 'minor leagues' due to being handcuffed to the Full Sail Arena.
Which brings me to the best wrestling promotion going - yes, for me - in AEW.
Dynamite was just that this week - what a great show!
I'm excited for their Revolution PPV - about the only thing that continues to *not* click for AEW is their Women's Division - there's something missing there.
And - how can you not be excited for PAC v. Orange Cassidy?
"HE WILL TRY!"
Seriously though - AEW is by far my favorite wrestling promotion these days - and WWE's slate of programming if in danger of dropping off my schedule entirely.
(Let's go with FINN BALOR already!!!)
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2020/02/28 13:05:01
Subject: The DakkaDakka Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: I think the most inexplicable thing about NXT and WWE is that when someone goes over to WWE, it's because they're immensely popular.
Consider Kevin Owens and Sammi Zayn. Both excellent in NXT. Turn up in WWE? And they just didn't do them justice. At all.
Owens became a slightly rubbish heel. Sammi? Oh, yeah. You're like, this bloke's sidekick.
Poo. Poo to that!
Prime case in point: Bayley. WWE took a great pure babyface from NXT and totally bollocksed it so badly on the main roster, making her so goddamn stupid, that they destroyed her momentum and character and had to turn her heel. I cannot think of any better example to demonstrate that the WWE creative have no clue how to build babyface wrestlers than their handling of Bayley.
You can also point to Bayley's successor in the NXT women's division: Asuka. Breaking her undefeated streak with Charlotte at Wrestlemania? Eh, okay it's not that bad, it was at least against a good opponent and at Wrestlemania. Her first pinfall loss is against Carmella as a result of a distraction by Ellsworth? WTF are you doing WWE?!
Though main roster Owens did give us his friendship with Chris Jericho which was pretty great.
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2020/02/28 14:09:59
Subject: The DakkaDakka Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread
Find big namers close to in-ring retirement. They then get to pick either like, a tag team partner or two others for a three way tag team type thing, from the NXT roster.
Let them recruit not so much the NXT wrestlers - but their characters into the main roster.
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Alpharius wrote: I think I'm OK with NXT staying "NXT" - provided WWE treats it like a 'Big Boy Brand'.
That means giving it some slots for Wrestlemania, and keeping up the momentum they gave it during Survivor Series...
I'd prefer it not get put on Wrestlemania. It has Takeover which is better than Wrestlemania pretty much all the time anyway. Wrestlemania is way too long as it is, so either it gets even longer, or other matches get cut or shrunk. One of which will probably be the NXT match as Vince is not gonna give them the time they deserve/need to tell the stories they do.
The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
2020/03/01 02:26:26
Subject: The DakkaDakka Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread
I did love the Cody vs Wardlowe cage match and surprisingly stayed engaged throughout the 30 min ironman match between Omega and Pac, I thought 30 mins would feel like way too long.
The womens division is getting better I reckon, although there are still no real storylines to match the men's division.
The title match between Ryho and Nyla was pretty decent and Kris Stadlander is my favourite alien!
Looking forward to watching Revolution at some point.
2020/03/02 01:47:46
Subject: The DakkaDakka Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread
Yea Revolution was really good, I'll use spoiler tags just in case anyone hasn't seen it yet.
Spoiler:
Dustin vs Hager: Pretty decent, but I'm not a fan of MMA holds so I'm not sure if I want Hager to become a big 'in ring' presence.
Darby vs Spanish God: Great match, Sammy's big flip off the top and through the table was insane, and it's good to see these upcoming talents are just good at the normal match wrestling stuff.
The Young Bucks vs Hangman and Kenny: Incredible match, though the Bucks had it and the storylines throughout the match were great. I'm anticipating the champions collapsing into acrimony at some point but if they keep having matches that good I don't mind them dragging it out.
Nyla vs Stadlander: Oh what a dissappointment! I've seen both these ladies have much better matches, this one was flat, slow and had a lot of botched moves.
Cody vs MJF: In terms of pure wrestling this match was pretty standard, but the storytelling was great and what an upset at the end! Other highlights were the live band not being able to sing their own song, Brandi Rhodes' geeky little dance and the random blading on MJF when he had barely got hit!
Pac vs Cassidy: Wow what a revalation is right, I thought this guy was just some silly gimmick but he can really wrestle. Also I though Pac was one of those dudes who is all ego and takes themselves too seriously but he must have a bit of a sense of humour to do this match at least!
Jericho vs Moxley: Good match, not super high tempo but very physical and good storytelling. Obvioulsy a jobber like Moxley had to cheat to overcome a legend like Jericho by pretending he couldn't see, and what type of Champion is he going to make after he tried to poke out Santana's eye in pure spite? Hopefully the fans soon see that Jericho is AEW
Edit: Just caught up with the 2 dark matches.
Dark Order vs SCU: Really fun match and good to see SCU doing a bit of storyline to go with the great wrestling. I have to say, I really like the Dark Order when they wrestle but I'm just not 100% on board with the 'join the dark order' gimmick. Was quite surprised about SCU losing too!
Britt + Penelope (with Kip) vs Riho + Yuka: What a great match, Yuka has some really good moves and works well with Riho. I love Penelope and Kip whenever I see them, and nice to have some of the heat carrying over from their intergender match with Kenny and Riho. But the biggest surprise was how much I'm liking Britt as a heel, she and Yuka did a good job pushing that angle!
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