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2018/05/23 16:25:47
Subject: Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
I enjoy complaining regardless if it effects me or not, that's why I still play GW's games.
If I wanted to be complain free I'd jump ship to bolt action or some such thing.
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2018/05/23 16:27:54
Subject: Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
SeanDrake wrote: I think the amount of innocence GW is showing with these is kind of sweet.
I give it a month before some mothers in the US are burning copies of it and screaming for it to be band.
It has happened to everything from D&D to Harry Potter and including some previous GW releases.
GW previously avoided a lot of issues by saying there stuff was not intended for kids wh8ch obvious won't work this time.
GW wishes they had a profile large enough for mothers to care about burning or banning their books. Sadly, even if these kids raid a Slaaneshi rite and chainsword everyone to pieces, it still won't hit one tenth as high on the national outrage meter as a twerking gnome, and I'm pretty sure people just ignore the gnome now.
Carnikang wrote: Has anyone ever flipped through/read any of the 40k authors other works,?
Any BL authors or the specific authors writing the Adventures books?
Because, yes, I have read other stuff by Abnett, King, McNeill, Swallow, Thorpe and Farrer. And Mat Ward.
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JohnU wrote: I just feel like they missed an opportunity by not making them choose your own adventure books with the tagline "Forge the Narrative!"
GW out out three Fighting Fantasy style books a few years ago, but pulled them around the End Times. I've got Hive of the Dead and wish I had a chance to get the other two.
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Carnikang wrote: Has anyone ever flipped through/read any of the 40k authors other works,?
Any BL authors or the specific authors writing the Adventures books?
Because, yes, I have read other stuff by Abnett, King, McNeill, Swallow, Thorpe and Farrer. And Mat Ward.
The latter. He has 2 40k publications, and an absolute pile of others.
PourSpelur wrote: It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't.
PourSpelur wrote: It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't.
I love me some CYOA type books. Especially those with fighting and dice rolling involved.
I need more info on these GW styled Fighting Fantasy books.
I picked up one of the Destiny Quest books which feels like a Diablo/ MMORPG take on the genre. I'll have to pawn it off on BobtheInquisitor one of these days (who's Dungeon Saga book I've still got).
I've had a lot of success with Choose Your Own Adventure books getting reluctant readers to get more involved in the process. Anything that gives kids more agency in their education and personal improvement is a thumbs up in my classroom.
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If I was 12 and they'd had these books out I might 'a read them. Maybe even liked them. As an adult with kids it leaves me with a weird feeling. Trying to imagine the Grim Dark as an experience for children... The IoM has picked up the Nick name Catholic National Socialists in space for a reason.
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2018/05/23 18:11:44
Subject: Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
You know what, there is like a 0.1% probability of this being a GW troll.
They go, release the books, kids worldwide go get them and then it turns out that it's an 18+ horror story.
The tech heretic is found guilty of tech heresy and is put under severe torture and lobotomy until he is just a mindless servitor, when he happens to meet the filthy deserter in the penal region. They form a weird companionship as they are sent to a planet to slow a Necron flayed one attack, where they meet the pacifist girl, who after witnessing a robot kill her parents and then wear their skin suffers from sever ptsd such that see cannot bear to even look at a weapon.
The three then spend the rest of the book being chased by mechanical horrors through the sewers of the city until they all die horribly. The end.
That would be the greatest thing.
2018/05/23 18:37:43
Subject: Re:Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
highlord tamburlaine wrote: I love me some CYOA type books. Especially those with fighting and dice rolling involved.
I need more info on these GW styled Fighting Fantasy books.
I picked up one of the Destiny Quest books which feels like a Diablo/ MMORPG take on the genre. I'll have to pawn it off on BobtheInquisitor one of these days (who's Dungeon Saga book I've still got).
I've had a lot of success with Choose Your Own Adventure books getting reluctant readers to get more involved in the process. Anything that gives kids more agency in their education and personal improvement is a thumbs up in my classroom.
There's a 40k one on the app store called Herald of Oblivion, it's quite good.
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2018/05/23 18:44:12
Subject: Re:Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
Red Marine wrote: If I was 12 and they'd had these books out I might 'a read them. Maybe even liked them. As an adult with kids it leaves me with a weird feeling. Trying to imagine the Grim Dark as an experience for children... The IoM has picked up the Nick name Catholic National Socialists in space for a reason.
The Imperium of Man is really a place where this kind of thing will work well. Remember that what we know, as omniscient observers, isn't the same as what the average citizens of the Imperium will encounter or be told.
2018/05/23 19:00:08
Subject: Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
Aren73 wrote: You know what, there is like a 0.1% probability of this being a GW troll.
They go, release the books, kids worldwide go get them and then it turns out that it's an 18+ horror story.
The tech heretic is found guilty of tech heresy and is put under severe torture and lobotomy until he is just a mindless servitor, when he happens to meet the filthy deserter in the penal region. They form a weird companionship as they are sent to a planet to slow a Necron flayed one attack, where they meet the pacifist girl, who after witnessing a robot kill her parents and then wear their skin suffers from sever ptsd such that see cannot bear to even look at a weapon.
The three then spend the rest of the book being chased by mechanical horrors through the sewers of the city until they all die horribly. The end.
That would be the greatest thing.
And by "greatest thing" you mean "the most moronic edgelord nonsense I've heard in a long time", I presume? Hell, why not throw in rape and mutilation while you're at it, just to drive home what an absolute cad you are.
The only thing I find more distasteful about this affair than the existence of 40k children's books in the first place is the open anticipatory glee of people who can't wait to get to ruin them for other people, often while painting vivid fantasies of defiling the underaged protagonists physically or mentally. Make of that what you will.
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2018/05/23 20:34:13
Subject: Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
Aren73 wrote: You know what, there is like a 0.1% probability of this being a GW troll.
They go, release the books, kids worldwide go get them and then it turns out that it's an 18+ horror story.
The tech heretic is found guilty of tech heresy and is put under severe torture and lobotomy until he is just a mindless servitor, when he happens to meet the filthy deserter in the penal region. They form a weird companionship as they are sent to a planet to slow a Necron flayed one attack, where they meet the pacifist girl, who after witnessing a robot kill her parents and then wear their skin suffers from sever ptsd such that see cannot bear to even look at a weapon.
The three then spend the rest of the book being chased by mechanical horrors through the sewers of the city until they all die horribly. The end.
That would be the greatest thing.
And by "greatest thing" you mean "the most moronic edgelord nonsense I've heard in a long time", I presume? Hell, why not throw in rape and mutilation while you're at it, just to drive home what an absolute cad you are.
The only thing I find more distasteful about this affair than the existence of 40k children's books in the first place is the open anticipatory glee of people who can't wait to get to ruin them for other people, often while painting vivid fantasies of defiling the underaged protagonists physically or mentally. Make of that what you will.
Geez, I'm just saying that GW could have the sense of humour to make a joke of the idea of 40k children's books. The sort of "Well we could make children's books...but if we keep close to the lore this is what happens".
No one is saying something like that would be enjoyable to read, pleasant or nice or tasteful. It's the sheer fact of them printing it, or advertising it even, of GW making fun of their own over the top universe that is funny.
Let's make this clear, because it seems I actually have to spell it out, I'm not out for ruining anything for anyone, or making kids read gruesome stories that leave them scarred. I just find the idea of a kids toy company trying to write books for kids but running into a wall due to the nature of their non-child-friendly universe amusing.
Obviously they're just trying to expand their audience, get kids 8 and up reading their stories, assembling the easy to build Stormcast Eternals, making battlefields out of books and pillows and starting the hobby young. It's a great move, possibly more appropriate for a comic format, but overall it makes sense and frankly I think it's a fun enough hobby for such a young age, probably better for kids than spending the same amount of time playing, say, call of duty or something. I put together my first Necron warriors when I was 11, thinking this hobby is the best thing ever (though to be fair I did enjoy the grimdark setting at that age too, it didn't need to be sugar-coated to be appealing).
I really don't think you need to sensationalise people making fun of how inappropriate for young ages parts of the lore are.
2018/05/23 22:26:21
Subject: Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
And by "greatest thing" you mean "the most moronic edgelord nonsense I've heard in a long time", I presume? Hell, why not throw in rape and mutilation while you're at it, just to drive home what an absolute cad you are.
The only thing I find more distasteful about this affair than the existence of 40k children's books in the first place is the open anticipatory glee of people who can't wait to get to ruin them for other people, often while painting vivid fantasies of defiling the underaged protagonists physically or mentally. Make of that what you will.
Calm down, dude. It's a joke, sheesh. Do some yoga or something.
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2018/05/23 22:36:28
Subject: Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
Aren73 wrote: You know what, there is like a 0.1% probability of this being a GW troll.
They go, release the books, kids worldwide go get them and then it turns out that it's an 18+ horror story.
The tech heretic is found guilty of tech heresy and is put under severe torture and lobotomy until he is just a mindless servitor, when he happens to meet the filthy deserter in the penal region. They form a weird companionship as they are sent to a planet to slow a Necron flayed one attack, where they meet the pacifist girl, who after witnessing a robot kill her parents and then wear their skin suffers from sever ptsd such that see cannot bear to even look at a weapon.
The three then spend the rest of the book being chased by mechanical horrors through the sewers of the city until they all die horribly. The end.
That would be the greatest thing.
And by "greatest thing" you mean "the most moronic edgelord nonsense I've heard in a long time", I presume? Hell, why not throw in rape and mutilation while you're at it, just to drive home what an absolute cad you are.
The only thing I find more distasteful about this affair than the existence of 40k children's books in the first place is the open anticipatory glee of people who can't wait to get to ruin them for other people, often while painting vivid fantasies of defiling the underaged protagonists physically or mentally. Make of that what you will.
IMO rape would be better saved for a chaos or tyranid encounter. Doesn't fit the Necro M.O.
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2018/05/23 23:00:35
Subject: Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
Adepts Doritos - eh it's fine, he helped me learn a new word so all is good, we're all about the educational experience here on dakka.
As more of a genuine constructive criticism of the books - I think it might be a bit too formulaic, perhaps? It's very much "we have two main game systems, so let's make a book for each, with a generic story idea, to give an introduction to the world".
What if they made books about, for example, a Silver Tower type scenario, where Tzeentch is messing with the heroes they already have. He puts different challenges in their path and they have to outwit him in order to proceed and get the treasure. Firstly, I think that would make for a very fun book to read, secondly it can be about more than just fighting and combat but also logical puzzles, riddles and overcoming your fears. Power of friendship stuff. It has the added benefit that, because Tzeentch is maybe mad but likes to make things interesting, he would make the challenges appropriate for the characters. So they won't be facing down hordes of Chaos Warriors but rather riddles, puzzles and the occasional goblin/horror they have to overcome.
Right now it seems to be just two adverts for the most generic AoS and 40k there could be. Whereas to make it great they could have had a more wacky premise, like silver tower and base it on that.
Who knows though, maybe the authors are that amazing that despite the generic premise they will make these books outstanding and a pleasure to read for more than just their target audience.
2018/05/23 23:49:32
Subject: Re:Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
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2018/05/23 23:57:03
Subject: Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
As I have said a couple of times, based on the Star wars books written by the same two writers which are presumably the model for the warhammer books, they reminded me strongly of the Roald Dahl books, except of course that those books are much more terrifying. Nothing in 40k traumatised me nearly as much as The Witches and The BFG when I first read them.
2018/05/23 23:57:33
Subject: Re:Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
Galas wrote: Yeah... I think people is really being too worked up with the "how are they gonna adapt genocide?!" Maybe they just don't need to do it.
Most people are joking. All the rational people I've seen discussing this online or spoken to about it thinks it's a 'silly idea' and we're just having a laugh over it. We're well aware none of the actual horrible grimdark is going to be watered down.
It's going to be like the difference between GI Joe comics and GI Joe cartoons.
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2018/05/24 00:09:18
Subject: Re:Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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2018/05/24 00:13:15
Subject: Re:Warhammer Adventures - adventure stories for younger readers.
Commissar Benny wrote: Its has no visibility, which is why most of its community is older. A comic book isn't going to resolve that.
The glory days of retail stores are gone. Trying to stuff the online retail genie back in the bottle is an excercise in futility, and it's good that GW seem to be finally realising that and looking for other ways to expand their brand.
I couldn't disagree more. GW games needs a thriving local community in order to attract and retain new customer. This is not a t-shirt company where you can simply order one online and don't care about the physical store.
As much as Kirby was an incompetent, and how frustrating it was for most of us, curtailling the online store was a great move. Sure the online store were profitable for GW in the short term, but it was killing the company slowly
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