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**kodos**

Gimgamgoo wrote:
At least Resin, Metal, 'Restic', Hard Plastric and MDF can be sprayed without issue.

which is strange as "Restic" is PVC with different hardness

I myself had not any problem with the AP coloured primers

Automatically Appended Next Post:
more/larger promo pics:

Spoiler:

going with the 2nd pic, this will also work for a fantasy setting as well,

**BobtheInquisitor**

I used Army Painter spray on all my Reaper Bobes CAV minis. The minis from the first KS became tacky. The minis from the second KS were all fine. I think they were made in Bones Black.

**Boss Salvage**

Those are some stellar paint jobs

I'm tempted to make a Nightstalkers army out of these, since I still don't have a 100% Mantic KOW army and because can

**axotl**

Everyone hating on PVC - but have you ever tried going to your hardware store and getting PVC primer? It's PVC "plastic cement" with less gluing power, but way more "smoothing" power. It really helps fix post-scraped PVC models - you don't have to "cut off" the lines, and can just scrape them as normal. Then, brush on and scrub a bit with your applicator and boom. I use an empty tamiya bottle that I pour the PVC primer into so I can use the small brush in the lid.

This trick is now my go to as I go through all the Battletech PVC models and fix their mold lines, mold slips/soft details. I keep meaning to make a video on it.

Obviously, PVC primer type solvents are a bit more dangerous than what we're used to (maybe), so be careful - but good god is it effective. PM me if you want pictures.

**Kalamadea**

I've tried the pipe primer/glue on expanded PVC sheets for terrain, never wanted it near a model though. I'm sure it's fine if you're careful, but it's not something I'd even want to experiment with. My method is probably gonna be viewed as just as out there, I keep a butane torch in my hobby toolbox for the new Battletech (and Legion, Bones etc) figs. A (very) quick pass with the torch gets rid of 90% of the mold lines without needing to scrape anything, the harder lines and mold slips get the standard scrape or filing and then deburred either with the torch or a wire brush.

**Talking Banana**

One thing I don't like: the only mystic portal shown has monster tendrils breaching through from the other side. It's just narratively limiting. It'd be nice if they at least had two versions, including one without the Cthulhu tendrils.

Other than that, not bad at all.

On PVC mold line removal, I get very good, clean results just by cutting away mold lines and using a wire brush to mop up. It does take a lot more time than I'd like to do well, though, so perhaps that's where the techniques detailed above win out. Still, if the prospect of using PVC primer and / or butane torches scares you, you can get good results without them.

**DaveC**

Another blog post this time for the scatter - KS Monday at 3PM

https://www.manticgames.com/news/terraincrate-three-ruins-and-scatter/

The Pledges
As with all our TerrainCrate Kickstarters the pledges will be really straight forward! This time around we are having 2 Crates. One jam packed full of the multipart trees and the other full to the brim of sci fi scatter terrain. We will also have some spectacular high quality playing mats in three sizes, plus templates for ease of gameplay!

**axotl**

Kalamadea wrote:
I've tried the pipe primer/glue on expanded PVC sheets for terrain, never wanted it near a model though. I'm sure it's fine if you're careful, but it's not something I'd even want to experiment with. My method is probably gonna be viewed as just as out there, I keep a butane torch in my hobby toolbox for the new Battletech (and Legion, Bones etc) figs. A (very) quick pass with the torch gets rid of 90% of the mold lines without needing to scrape anything, the harder lines and mold slips get the standard scrape or filing and then deburred either with the torch or a wire brush.

Interesting maybe my primer was much weaker - but it barely made an impact - it just softened it enough to either then scrape/cut super easily, or even mush the line into the surrounding plastic, or melt any shreds remaining from scraping it. But I literally intentionally get it all over the (battletech pvc at least) models with no damage.

**ced1106**

I just brush-on colored air-brush primers then wash -- especially since I often paint at night. AFAIK, The solvents in the spray cans are the problem, if there is one.

For mold lines, I use an engraving pen.

Early bird is two sets and a mat. I don't play much sf, so probably won't have much interest in the plants. Battlefield set looks good for not-GW games, and some can be used for post-apoc. Would be nice to have more zombie and post-apoc outdoor terrain, but I think Mantic's already released it for Walking Dead and Mars Attacks and other sets?

**Maccwar**

Kickstarter Campaign is now live and already funded

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/manticgames/terraincrate-3-bring-the-background-to-the-foreground

**IGtR=**

Perhaps unsurprisingly, it has now blasted through the first 2x stretch goals.

Interesting to see the negative comments. I think it is a bit strange to wish for HIPs, as the price would seem to my mind not worth it. PVC is a pain, but many of us used to use aquarium plants (those mold lines aren't easy) or scratch build!

Certainly a lot better than a ping pong ball and some cocktail sticks...

**lord_blackfang**

*shrug*

I just got a set of rando alien mushroom tree STLs for 12€ in a bundle with 18 other sets, including 4 full regiment kits, from Wargame Atlantic Digital.

**scarletsquig**

New update, all the tree pieces now come with pre-cut holes for magnets so they can be swapped around and stored with ease:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/manticgames/terraincrate-3-bring-the-background-to-the-foreground/posts/3671226

**mattl**

Pretty excited for this one. My time to play any games is limited now, but it would be nice to have terrain and a mat to just be able to stick on the kitchen table.

**Azazelx**

kodos wrote:
Gimgamgoo wrote:
At least Resin, Metal, 'Restic', Hard Plastric and MDF can be sprayed without issue.
which is strange as "Restic" is PVC with different hardness

There's lots of different types of PVC. My Zombicide models, D&D Boardgame models, Nolzur's models are all completely fine, but Bones models from several KS campaigns become tacky. I've given hundreds of $ of them away because sunk cost fallacy. Some does well, but some does not. :/

Unfortunately, I've had some tackiness issues with Terraincrate stuff aside from the warpage and bendiness issues, so I won't back another campaign of it (or buy PVC scenery from Mantic or any non-black models from Reaper)

**Morskul**

axotl wrote:
Everyone hating on PVC - but have you ever tried going to your hardware store and getting PVC primer? It's PVC "plastic cement" with less gluing power, but way more "smoothing" power. It really helps fix post-scraped PVC models - you don't have to "cut off" the lines, and can just scrape them as normal. Then, brush on and scrub a bit with your applicator and boom. I use an empty tamiya bottle that I pour the PVC primer into so I can use the small brush in the lid.

This trick is now my go to as I go through all the Battletech PVC models and fix their mold lines, mold slips/soft details. I keep meaning to make a video on it.

Obviously, PVC primer type solvents are a bit more dangerous than what we're used to (maybe), so be careful - but good god is it effective. PM me if you want pictures.

I'd love to see a video about this. I have a veritable mountain of Battlemechs awaiting cleanup and anything to make this less painful would be most welcome.

**ced1106**

Def interested in the PVC Primer mold removal! Post pics in the tutorial section and let us know. How well does it work for generic fantasy miniatures, zombies, etc.?

Found your (?) post on Reddit's Battletech subforum!

https://www.reddit.com/r/battletech/comments/xkfh94/modeling_tip_heads_up_plumber_pvc_primer/

I take it that the PVC Primer is this stuff? I like the idea of putting it in a Tamiya glue bottle with an applicator. Blah blah blah ventilation blah blah blah.

Spoiler:

**scarletsquig**

Quite a few new nuggets of info posted over the past few days.

Most interesting to me is the fact that there's 2kg of plastic in each crate, so very much price competitive with 3d printing (decent filament or resin will be £20-25/kg and it's £45-50 for a crate), and this comes with the advantage of no layer lines or putting time in to slice/ print/ clean etc.

I think this is how wargames companies stay relevant in a a world of 3d printing, make steel moulds for mass production, start making the price really low.

The videos show the pieces being really huge, I'm starting to see the potential for the trees in both sci-fi and things like post-apoc or fantasy.

It's basically deathworld terrain, could also be brilliant for necromunda as some weird mutant underhive fauna.

I think the xenos terrain goes nicely with the trees since it's all covered in vines, the scatter crate already got made, better, with the hard plastics from Mantic and I have loads of it.

Probably going to go for trees + 2x Xenos Terrain, it's all new stuff that isn't in my collection and I know it's sturdy material that I can magnetize and transport easily.

I usually opt for printing everything for terrain, but this is just more convenient.

**McDougall Designs**

scarletsquig wrote:
Quite a few new nuggets of info posted over the past few days.

Most interesting to me is the fact that there's 2kg of plastic in each crate, so very much price competitive with 3d printing (decent filament or resin will be £20-25/kg and it's £45-50 for a crate), and this comes with the advantage of no layer lines or putting time in to slice/ print/ clean etc.

I think this is how wargames companies stay relevant in a a world of 3d printing, make steel moulds for mass production, start making the price really low.

The videos show the pieces being really huge, I'm starting to see the potential for the trees in both sci-fi and things like post-apoc or fantasy.

It's basically deathworld terrain, could also be brilliant for necromunda as some weird mutant underhive fauna.

I think the xenos terrain goes nicely with the trees since it's all covered in vines, the scatter crate already got made, better, with the hard plastics from Mantic and I have loads of it.

Probably going to go for trees + 2x Xenos Terrain, it's all new stuff that isn't in my collection and I know it's sturdy material that I can magnetize and transport easily.

I usually opt for printing everything for terrain, but this is just more convenient.

Have they said what shipping costs will be. 2kg per crate is quite a lot of weight.

**kodos**

We currently estimate that the average shipping costs for the crates will be approximately:

· UK: £7-10 (depending upon the number of crates and add-ons you select)

· USA (shipping hub): £22 - £35 (depending upon the number of crates and add-ons you select)

· Europe (shipping hub): £15 - £25 (depending upon the number of crates and add-ons you select)

· Europe (Non EU countries) £18 – £28 (depending upon the number of crates and add-ons you select)

· Canada (shipping hub): £25 - £40 (depending upon the number of crates and add-ons you select)

· Australia/New Zealand (shipping hub): £25 - £40 (depending upon the number of crates and add-ons you select)

· Rest of World: £30 - £45 (depending upon the number of crates and add-ons you select)

**kodos**

We very much understand that times are hard for everyone at the moment, speaking to some fans that have had to cancel pledges due to higher bills, Christmas, other Kickstarters.

We already wanted to make the Crates the best value they could possibly be and believe we have achieved that but we understand that this could still be one indulgence too far at this time of year.

So we want to give you followers that may be on the fence about pledging some good news!

The Pledge Manager will open around January time and will stay open for 4 MONTHS! So if you are thinking, i love this Kickstarter but i just can't stretch the hobby budget this month, stick a quid in and get access to the pledge manager then, should your hobby budget be in a better place in the new year, you won't have missed out on this incredible opportunity!

**.Mikes.**

That's good news. There have been KSs in the past I've skipped because they're in December and money is already tight.

**axotl**

ced1106 wrote:
Def interested in the PVC Primer mold removal! Post pics in the tutorial section and let us know. How well does it work for generic fantasy miniatures, zombies, etc.?

Found your (?) post on Reddit's Battletech subforum! https://www.reddit.com/r/battletech/comments/xkfh94/modeling_tip_heads_up_plumber_pvc_primer/

I take it that the PVC Primer is this stuff? I like the idea of putting it in a Tamiya glue bottle with an applicator. Blah blah blah ventilation blah blah blah.

Spoiler:

Aight I'ma make a video man and start my for sure wildly successful youtube career!

But seriously regarding the PVC Primer: look for the clear stuff. The purple MIGHT be the same but with a lot of dye, but I like the clear stuff.

Instructions:
- Scrape that sucker like you would a GW kit. Sand it, cut it - whatever. Then, when you've got it roughed up a bit, or if the mold line wasn't much to begin with, paint the primer on. 99% of the time I just scrub the area with only the Tamiya brush itself or buff it with a super high grit sandpaper (otherwise you will get even more shredding). It will smooth down the area and evaporate - for a time, the PVC will be more rubbery and you can actually sometimes kind of score it or do whatever you want - but usually I leave it until it re-hardens.

I've even tested making "sprue goo" (which I prefer to use as filler with typical GW kits because then it perfectly blends gaps with sanding/scoring) using PVC pipe - so far not super impressed, and just use something like Apoxie Sculpt to resculpt/fill imperfections. But for super small stuff, normal grey thick PVC cement will bond and harden (it's just too hard to control as a sprue goo).

I'll share some of my prouder Battletech models that I've salvaged. I bought the whole collection and am slowly working my way through the boxes to make really stand out minis from some rough casts.

**ced1106**

> But seriously regarding the PVC Primer: look for the clear stuff.

Dang -- didn't even know there was a clear stuff. (: Dad's been buying purple for decades and I remember being forced -- er, "helping" him lay down PVC pipe for sprinkler systems (which the gardener would then break with his mower...).

Looking forward to the video, although before, during, and after pics of your collection would be fine, too!

**Maccwar**

Last few hours of the campaign.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/manticgames/terraincrate-3-bring-the-background-to-the-foreground/

If you are going to chip in to get access to the pledge manager when it opens next year then now is your last chance.

**kodos**

https://www.manticgames.com/news/what-wonders-lay-in-wait-for-the-warpath-universe-in-2023/

FireFight:

Firefight had an incredible year in 2022 and we want to follow that up in 2023 with even more Sci-Fi goodness! to start with we have an A-MAZ-ING release early on, with the Mazon Labs being introduced to the game in the new year!

‘On the surface Mazon Labs is an ethical and responsible medial research company that works at the bleeding edge of pharmaceutical endeavours. However, scratch beneath the board’s shareholder-pleasing smiles and there are whispers of a much murkier organisation. Experimentation in reanimation and civilians being used for Plague research are just some of the milder rumours circulating on the rebel networks. This set brings Mazon Labs to the FIrefight table, trusting that their trained medical and security teams can contain the subjects who willingly consented to being part of the program. This signed contract and waiver here proves it. Signed with red pen. Yes, that’s definitely not blood.’

Updates for Forge Fathers and Enforcers as we see some more metal models make their way to resin!
And we see some completely new kits hit the shelves too… Ranging ahead of the main force, on their own or in small groups, Valkyrs function as outriders, scouting ahead, gathering intel on enemy dispositions, and undertaking small lighting raids on outlying enemy positions at their own discretion.

Then of course there’s the rumbling sound of TANKS and VEHICLES that Ronnie hinted at during the Open Day. These will be crashing into the game later in the year, with a clean up of the rules and new scenarios aplenty! Watch this space for updates as we build upto the launch of ‘Tank Po… adult entertainment’

Spoiler:

Deadzone:

Deadzone players… It’s no time to Rebel! We are revisiting one of the most popular factions in 2023 and sprucing up their list and adding a sprinkling of fresh new models

PLUS!!! A new 2 Player Set is due to crash land onto your home planet early next year!

‘Located outside of the Enforcers’ cordon of the Death Arc, the Omega system was never prepared for the Plague’s invasion. The commerce world of Omega VII had inexperienced and rarely deployed private militaries, so after the contamination made landfall, their survival could only be measured in hours. A Deadzone was declared immediately – located near the GCPS’ galactic shipping lanes, the Omega system has the potential to become a dangerous beachhead for the Plague to spread through the rest of the GCPS. Fearing the rise of their ancient enemy, the Asterian Clade of the Five Daggers has deployed to occupy the planet. The Plague cannot be allowed to win this war. Omega VII must not fall…..’

Spoiler:

**BobtheInquisitor**

Fathercycles and Plague commissar have piqued my curiosity.

**kodos**

more stuff fore Deadzone/Firefight

additional 2 player starter set with Plague and Matsudan/Asterian

Spoiler:

https://www.manticgames.com/news/this-is-getting-out-of-hand-now-there-are-two-of-them-all-new/

ForeFathers get new Bikes (resin) and Thor and Doomstorm pattern Iron Ancestor, Thoragrim and Hammerfist Drop Team get their metal parts replaced with resin

Spoiler:

https://www.manticgames.com/news/get-your-motor-runnin-forge-father-pre-orders/

and last but not least, Mazon Labs coming to FireFight:

Spoiler:

https://www.manticgames.com/news/mazon-labs-enter-firefight/

PS: Kalyshi got a re-design to be less breakable in resin, pre-orders are up https://www.manticgames.com/games/firefight/firefight-asterians/asterian-kalyshi-2/

**kodos**

2023 Roadmap for FireFight

**lord_blackfang**

Hello, new vehicles? I'm hoping hard plastic by Archon.