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Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





I gave charadon 1 a shot purely on a fluff and crusade basis and regretted it. The story within has been meh (haven’t quite finished it to be honest).

I skipped both vigilus and all of PA and felt just fine about it.

Once I saw the CSM content that’s being thrown into book of fire, I knew I was done with any and all future campaign books that contain matched play rules. The fact that that stuff—which is literally just a poorly reformatted reprint—isn’t a free PDF is unforgivable.

And I don’t even play CSM

If GW wants to add new models mid-cycle, just put out a free datasheet PDF or add it to the app for subscribers.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/07/16 13:34:05


 
   
Made in us
Sister Oh-So Repentia



Illinois

For my part, I think DLC is fine. I thought PA was a good way to pad out an edition with some genuinely useful stuff and fun ways to play the game. Still sad that Sisters and Necrons never got theirs, but hey, we were released early in 9th, it all shakes out.

But the minute you start scattering rules for a given faction across different books, I'm out. I won't buy them. I'll buy my codex, I'll buy my PA book a year later; as soon as you start asking me to buy 3+ books just to have all the rules to my army, I'm gone.

2k poorly optimized Necrons.
1k poorly assembled Sisters.

DR:90S++G+MB--I+Pw40k16#+D++A+/aWD-R++T(T)DM+
 
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





The Sisters PA was in Pariah- it was just the rules for Stern and Kyganil, so there wasn't much there, but you're correct- with the codex only a few months earlier, it had definitely been designed with 9th in mind, so other than the data sheet for Stern, not much was necessary.

And sure, while GW COULD put datasheets for new units online or add them to the app, expecting them to do this is less realistic than asking for a persistent edition. GW will only consider a persistent edition if profit is equal to edition churn, which means they have to be able to sell models AND books without resetting. PA proved this is possible.
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut






PenitentJake wrote:
Further, anyone knocking PA: it certainly wasn't perfect. But please remember that it was the delivery mechanism for:

And? GW can sell models without needing an entire series of books to do it.


 bullyboy wrote:
I will disagree with the Vigilus books though. There is enough usable content in there outside of the specialist detachments. I have played many of those missions in narrative and if you pick up a 40K Risk game, you have a decent Vigilus map to run a campaign using the books.

The main/obvious problem with Vigilus was that the narrative was absolute GARBAGE.

Forge the narrative people! Just don't think about whether it makes a lick of sense!
   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





I skipped Vigilus, but I have 5 or 6 of the PA books. I have the Book of Rust, and I will be getting the Book of Fire.

I am likely to play all 54 Charadon Missions at some point; the official GW campaign will be long over by the time it happens, but I don't have any doubt that it will happen.

   
 
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