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When you're such a fancy lad that you need a serf to wipe the blood off your sword for you, and a tiara to let everyone know who the birthday princess is...

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Another diorama model. Yay.

Also, seriously, pick a color for the crosses. Its downright eyegouging for them to have multiple colors while within millimeters of each other plus all the extra EDGE-highlighting.
The fact that zero actually match the usual chapter heraldry is just extra weirdness on top.

The lack of highlighting on the the baby head's nasal headpiece is a weird choice too.


Beyond that, its just a bit too busy. Ditch the giant scroll under the cape, the candles, the various massively thick red scrolls, the skull and a couple more random bobbins and he'd be good (with a marine helmet). Especially if he were solo and the DC comics inspired servitors went back to being on separate bases

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Voss wrote:
Another diorama model. Yay.

Also, seriously, pick a color for the crosses. Its downright eyegouging for them to have multiple colors while within millimeters of each other plus all the extra EDGE-highlighting.
The fact that zero actually match the usual chapter heraldry is just extra weirdness on top.

The lack of highlighting on the the baby head's nasal headpiece is a weird choice too.


Beyond that, its just a bit too busy. Ditch the giant scroll under the cape, the candles, the various massively thick red scrolls, the skull and a couple more random bobbins and he'd be good (with a marine helmet). Especially if he were solo and the DC comics inspired servitors went back to being on separate bases


Hey, his helmet is the best part of him!

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Lol, this model is pure class, yet still the dakkanauts will never be satisfied!
I can't start another marine army, but Damn this model is making that decision difficult.
   
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 bullyboy wrote:
... yet still the dakkanauts will never be satisfied!
Tons of praise for the mini in this thread, yet you post that?

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Well, some dakkanauts will never be satisfied. That better?

Jokes aside I like him, perhaps I would put the minions on a different base. Like with the DA Azreal.

A helmed option is always appreciated too. *cries in orks*
   
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I'd cut as much of the red scrolls off as possible and throw the diorama base in a box never to be seen again. But otherwise it's good.

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Hankovitch wrote:
When you're such a fancy lad that you need a serf to wipe the blood off your sword for you, and a tiara to let everyone know who the birthday princess is...


(alt+p)

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Why I have an sudden urge to paint new Black Templar in yellow?
   
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 Sotahullu wrote:
Why I have an sudden urge to paint new Black Templar in yellow?


Then paint some imperial fists black just to piss off some peeps.
   
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Those lamenting against the base and the over the top decoration, sometimes I wonder if you read any lore, specifically about major players in the imperium and whether you actually get it and the setting?

It is meant to be absolutely absurd and unpractical, it's meant to make zero sense, it's all about clout.

Honestly a great model and the most grimdark potential primaris miniature yet, I love it.

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 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Those lamenting against the base and the over the top decoration, sometimes I wonder if you read any lore, specifically about major players in the imperium and whether you actually get it and the setting?
I don't see what enormous diorama bases have to do with not "getting the setting".

Nice as Helbrecht is - and as far as direct translations of artwork he's damned impressive - some of us would like if our commander wasn't walking around with his sword constantly embedded in something (be it an Ork or the ground) with a Servitor constantly cleaning it.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
It is meant to be absolutely absurd and unpractical, it's meant to make zero sense, it's all about clout.
The miniatures are meant to be impractical?

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The artwork has and always has been a better representation of what it actually looks like in the setting, especially within battles. Any movement towards recreating that faithfully in a model is a bonus.

And yes, it is meant to be totally impractical, as that matches the lore. Again, it is not meant to make sense per say, as nothing within the imperium does so. Servitors/serfs scuttling around, getting in the way within the middle of a battle to clean a sword because that is the priority - keeping the sword pure - as opposed to allowing the commander to be as functional as possible.

Yep, the reason why the model makes sense is because the priorities within the imperium do not make sense.

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Personal choice and taste, there's nothing to 'get'.

I don't have a problem with over the top decoration or grimdark. Play-doh ribbons don't read grimdark to me.

and people who don't like dioramas have to decide if the price and effort required to remove them is worth it. GW is trending heavily towards display pieces...

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Priorities in the Imperium don't make sense, therefore there's always a freshly dead Ork on hand to serve as a sword rest.
Riiight. Cool.

Maybe just accept that not everyone likes diorama characters..?
   
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 Lord Damocles wrote:
Maybe just accept that not everyone likes diorama characters..?
No, didn't you hear? The miniatures are meant to be impractical and therefore difficult and inconvenient to use. Anything less would be proof positive that you just don't understand the setting. Because those two things are connected... somehow...


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This new Helbrecht is really good. Of course it could have been better regarding some details (servitors are too bulky, it's a bit too busy...) but I guess it coud unleash it's full potential with a "darker" paintjob (and the helmet). 'Eavy Metal style is often too...cartoonish ?
The ork is said to be optionnal so we can't really complain about that.

Now I can't wait to see the Sword Brethrens ! (And Grimaldus)
   
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Honestly, GW needs to start taking a cue from the primarch series from forgeworld, and integrate a practical gaming base inside the larger diorama base. I mean, I love the Helbrecht piece, but I agree with a lot of the contentions people have about it both practically and abstractly.
   
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Now I can't wait to see the Sword Brethrens ! (And Grimaldus)


Are new Sword Brethren already confirmed ... I heard of Grimaldus and a BT ancient. But Sword Brethren are still up in the air?

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They are on the leak, so basically certain at this stage.
   
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Vorian wrote:
They are on the leak, so basically certain at this stage.


alright ... thx

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 zedmeister wrote:
Well, the cheeky tossers have blanked out mark gibbons signature on the bottom right!

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Warhammer community cheek

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Well, now it's back. The angry mob of Mark Gibbons enthusiasts made them see the error in their ways.
   
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 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Those lamenting against the base and the over the top decoration, sometimes I wonder if you read any lore, specifically about major players in the imperium and whether you actually get it and the setting?

It is meant to be absolutely absurd and unpractical, it's meant to make zero sense, it's all about clout.

Honestly a great model and the most grimdark potential primaris miniature yet, I love it.


I'd take this more seriously if your profile pic wasn't miniatures devoid of any of the over the top decoration you're insisting is so central to 'getting' the lore and the setting. I think you understand just fine- both why some people don't like it and that most of the miniatures are actually devoid of that gak.

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There's a diffrence between something being impractical in-universe, and just being impractical as a game piece.

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 Dryaktylus wrote:
 zedmeister wrote:
Well, the cheeky tossers have blanked out mark gibbons signature on the bottom right!

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Warhammer community cheek

Spoiler:


Well, now it's back. The angry mob of Mark Gibbons enthusiasts made them see the error in their ways.



So...a troop of Gibbons enthusiasts?
   
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He's got a nasty case of Liefeld Cranial Syndrome there.
   
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Hankovitch wrote:
He's got a nasty case of Liefeld Cranial Syndrome there.


Damn, just realized you can't see anyone's feet on that artwork

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Well if your main concern is the practicality of a game piece there are plenty of plainer captain level models out there to use, just paint them in BT colors. Hell, why not just use a block of wood on a 60mm base? You can paint it any color you want!

And leave us, who appreciate the ornamented future gothic ridiculousness of the 41st millenium with some suitably ridiculously ornamented future gothic miniatures.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Those lamenting against the base and the over the top decoration, sometimes I wonder if you read any lore, specifically about major players in the imperium and whether you actually get it and the setting?
I don't see what enormous diorama bases have to do with not "getting the setting".

Nice as Helbrecht is - and as far as direct translations of artwork he's damned impressive - some of us would like if our commander wasn't walking around with his sword constantly embedded in something (be it an Ork or the ground) with a Servitor constantly cleaning it.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
It is meant to be absolutely absurd and unpractical, it's meant to make zero sense, it's all about clout.
The miniatures are meant to be impractical?



So you must have quite a few miniatures representing the same guy then? When he's shooting you grab the one with gun raised. Assault, get the sword out guy. Damn, I want to advance my captain...where's the miniature that's running?
Damn silliness. The miniature is a representation, who cares about practicality? Your vehicles shoot out their arses in this edition too.

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Everyone's threshold is different. Some lament tactical rocks, some don't want a silly pose, some don't want a diorama. IMHO a strong solution to this guy would have been something along the lines of FW's character series with display bases. Personally, I think the diorama is fine in concept but poor in execution and had it improved the okay art instead of making the design worse, I'd probably have no issues with it. But either way, suggesting needing model to represent each action is equivalent to not wanting one hyperspecific scene floating around the battlefield is not, I feel, argued in good faith.


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