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 Norchack wrote:

Does anyone know if newer teams not covered in the initial release of Blitz Bowl will receive rules for use in Blitz Bowl?

Not having Blitz Bowl rules is the only thing keeping me from buying factions like Undead and Slannn.

I will say this is a huge bummer. Blitz Bowl is a super fun and quick game, and I think it would be awesome for GW to put out some supplemental rules for the new teams. I even wrote GW customer service requesting, but I think they approached the game as a one and done kind of thing.

 Easy E wrote:

Zetan wrote:

 Original Timmy wrote:

 ekwatts wrote:

Zetan wrote:
GW has never even made a Slann model that wasn't large and sitting on a platform.

Nope, GW had a small range of metal Slann figures that more closely resembled generic fantasy lizard/frog men. The big fat platform-sitters came after an extended absence from the catalog and fluff.

Yep they were even on display at WHF this year alongside a couple of old Zoats.

Huh, that's neat, I was unaware. I still think it's unlikely they'll go in that direction with anything new (since all the fluff says that most of them are extinct and the ones that aren't are all fat now) but I'd love to be wrong.

When you are nearly extinct, the best thing to do is to create Blood Bowl teams! It is a sure way to bounce back in no time. Just ask the Elves!

Haha, exactly.

It's an interesting question, I suppose, and more likely than the weird suggestions people keep making about the possibility of AoS elements creeping into Blood Bowl (again: not happening).

Blood Bowl has a timeline, and it is distinct from Warhammer Fantasy as it's effectively an "alternate" reality. Through 1st and 2nd edition, Blood Bowl was a gigantic, worldpsanning franchise within the alternate Warhammer world. The fluff for the Slann race was mostly fully-formed by the time they popped up as a playable team in the 2nd Edition Star Players expansion book, former space travellers that had become so degenerate that they would engage in Blood Bowl, but they never received specific Blood Bowl miniatures and, in Warhammer, ended up as the fat space frog wizards we now know less than a decade later.

The "current" Blood Bowl background is based off the mid 90s 3rd edition box set, in which the NAF collapses and Blood Bowl becomes a much smaller-scale affair. Those of us old enough to remember this period of GW history will remember how some of the newer versions of their boxed side games during this period were brought much further into the established "Warhammer" universe. Talisman, as an example, become overtly "Warhammer-ised". So I believe the collapse of the NAF storyline to be an attempt by GW to more closely incorporate BB into WHFB, and you can see this in many of the models: while some of the 2nd edition models looked like a mashup of fantasy tropes/races and sporting gear, the 3rd edition models looked more overtly like fantasy models with the weaponry snipped away.

The 3rd edition rulebook eventually evolved into the LRB model that gave rise to the 6th edition ruleset that was used as the basis for the 2016 box set. In spite of that, I've noticed that the more anarchic, experimental feel of 2nd edition has been creeping back in via the fluff and the models. Zoats? Fat Skaven? Gobbler Grimlich? So I guess the return of the Space Slann team comes down to whether or not the Blood Bowl design team feel like inserting a tiny bit of fluff explaining that not all of them turned into fat floating frog wizards... There is, at the very least, a precedent for the team, and explaining it in the fluff is an easier bet than trying to shoehorn Judge Dredd in.

Who knows?

Truth is, they could come back. Between that and a trolls-n-snotlings team and maybe a polystyrene astrogranite pitch and I'll never complain again.

and maybe a polystyrene astrogranite

My god, I had totally forgotten about that.

Man would I ever love for the other teams to get Blitz Bowl rules.

That's also the one thing keeping me from really buying in to the fantasy football stuff. I need something fast and easy to play.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Man would I ever love for the other teams to get Blitz Bowl rules.

That's also the one thing keeping me from really buying in to the fantasy football stuff. I need something fast and easy to play.

What's weird, to me, is that they gave the Dark Elves Blitz Bowl rules with White Dwarf...and then they stopped doing that?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Man would I ever love for the other teams to get Blitz Bowl rules.

That's also the one thing keeping me from really buying in to the fantasy football stuff. I need something fast and easy to play.

What's weird, to me, is that they gave the Dark Elves Blitz Bowl rules with White Dwarf...and then they stopped doing that?

Yeah, when I saw that I thought it was going to be a semi-regular thing, but was disappointed how quickly they scrapped it. I don't think it would cost GW a ton of money to include the rules of the newer teams in the next BB compendium or put out a card pack. Maybe they could even make a "non BN" edition and sell a few more copies of a product they have already invested in.

Does stats and costs differ much from regular Blood Bowl? Is it difficult to make them yourself?

 Sabotage! wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Man would I ever love for the other teams to get Blitz Bowl rules.

That's also the one thing keeping me from really buying in to the fantasy football stuff. I need something fast and easy to play.

What's weird, to me, is that they gave the Dark Elves Blitz Bowl rules with White Dwarf...and then they stopped doing that?

Yeah, when I saw that I thought it was going to be a semi-regular thing, but was disappointed how quickly they scrapped it. I don't think it would cost GW a ton of money to include the rules of the newer teams in the next BB compendium or put out a card pack. Maybe they could even make a "non BN" edition and sell a few more copies of a product they have already invested in.

There's a rumor that they're doing something "big" right?

Maybe a part of that is setting up a compendium with Blitz Bowl "simplified" rules for everyone and advanced rules?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Man would I ever love for the other teams to get Blitz Bowl rules.

That's also the one thing keeping me from really buying in to the fantasy football stuff. I need something fast and easy to play.

What's weird, to me, is that they gave the Dark Elves Blitz Bowl rules with White Dwarf...and then they stopped doing that?

Yeah, when I saw that I thought it was going to be a semi-regular thing, but was disappointed how quickly they scrapped it. I don't think it would cost GW a ton of money to include the rules of the newer teams in the next BB compendium or put out a card pack. Maybe they could even make a "non BN" edition and sell a few more copies of a product they have already invested in.

There's a rumor that they're doing something "big" right?

Maybe a part of that is setting up a compendium with Blitz Bowl "simplified" rules for everyone and advanced rules?

Something like that would be fantastic. Blitz ball is a blast and probably my favorite one off game GW ever did. Having Blitz Bowl rules in a compendium would go a long way to make a shorter officially supported version of the game. I definitely wouldn't mind if they did an official rule set for sevens either, but I think Blitz Bowl is more likely.

 Thargrim wrote:
Probably within the next two months, other than that no clue. They will be previewed on twitch at some point, so when they get their preview then we know their release is very soon.

But i want them NOW!

 DivineVisitor wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
Probably within the next two months, other than that no clue. They will be previewed on twitch at some point, so when they get their preview then we know their release is very soon.

But i want them NOW!

Same here.

A GW worker at Gen Con hinted end of August but it doesn't appear like it is happening...

really tempted by Blitz Bowl, but the team issue for expanding is rough.

For those of you who have bought Blood Bowl teams to split into Blitz Bowl.. how hard has it been to find someone to split with?

Hey, at least you guys get Blitz Bowl, they won't even sell it to us over on this side of the pond.

Lizardmen are up for pre order next weekend along with all their accessories plus some new generic red dice. I'll probably pick them up. Not coming at a good time for me though, having spent so much the last couple months.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/29/coming-soon-grym-watchers-abominable-intelligence-sporty-saurus-and-an-action-figure/

I like that the rules are available separately now.

Finally ! I was just wondering when these guys were gonna get released.

Now let's hope the files can get used to make an underworlds or warcry warband (or that GW works up the nerve to do a range refresh for the lizzies)

Anyone know if the Kroxigor will be metal? Or finecast?

I'd wait for the inevitable re design, unless your desperate for that particular model

Carlovonsexron wrote:
I'd wait for the inevitable re design, unless your desperate for that particular model

No word on it yet but all the warhammer Community stated was:

"There’s no reason for your Lizardmen to be saur losers – for one week only, you’ll be able to get hold of the classic Kroxigor on a Made to Order basis. If you want to add some brute strength to your team then you need this player."

https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/BB_Lizardmen-Oct3-KroxigorMTO30thcfgs.png

This mean no new Kroxigor?

No, it doesn't. You're reading far too much into that sentence. They've actually repeatedly said the opposite - that there'll be models for everything, in time.

All it means is that, as there's no new Kroxigor [I[now[/I], here's the old one if you want it. After all, the old metal Dark Elves, assassin, Chaos, Wood Elves and Halflings have all been up for Made To Order. By your argument, that would mean that there'd be no new Lizwardmen team, and yet ...

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
No, it doesn't. You're reading far too much into that sentence. They've actually repeatedly said the opposite - that there'll be models for everything, in time.

All it means is that, as there's no new Kroxigor [I[now[/I], here's the old one if you want it. After all, the old metal Dark Elves, assassin, Chaos, Wood Elves and Halflings have all been up for Made To Order. By your argument, that would mean that there'd be no new Lizwardmen team, and yet ...

What argument? It's a question. I don't understand your part about no new Lizardmen team. They previewed them and I saw them at Gen Con.

 Popsghostly wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
No, it doesn't. You're reading far too much into that sentence. They've actually repeatedly said the opposite - that there'll be models for everything, in time.

All it means is that, as there's no new Kroxigor [I[now[/I], here's the old one if you want it. After all, the old metal Dark Elves, assassin, Chaos, Wood Elves and Halflings have all been up for Made To Order. By your argument, that would mean that there'd be no new Lizwardmen team, and yet ...

What argument? It's a question. I don't understand your part about no new Lizardmen team. They previewed them and I saw them at Gen Con.

The word "argument" in this case means something more like "statement", "reasoning", or "logic".

He's just saying that they have done similar before .offering an old.version of a product before (sometimes a long time before) it gets a new re-design.

I wouldn't expect a.kroxigor this year, but maybe next. I think they need.to see how well it sells.before deciding if it will be resin or plastic. (I think it'll end up being plastic, as I suspect Lizardmen a strongly awaited team, having appeal for both bloodbowl players and people like myself who are just desperate for updated lizardmen models to convert)

I guess they will announce it in the bloodandglory seminar, but Is there any theory about the next team?

There was rumor about ogres, but I wasn't buying into that rumor. There are only so many teams left. I'd assume Necromantic or Chorfs would be next tbh. I'd figure another undead team since we only have one so far (and we have 3 elf teams so I hope they give those a little break for a while).

zamerion wrote:
I guess they will announce it in the bloodandglory seminar, but Is there any theory about the next team?

When is the blood and glory seminar?

Carlovonsexron wrote:

zamerion wrote:
I guess they will announce it in the bloodandglory seminar, but Is there any theory about the next team?

When is the blood and glory seminar?

1,2,3 november




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 Thargrim wrote:
There was rumor about ogres, but I wasn't buying into that rumor. There are only so many teams left. I'd assume Necromantic or Chorfs would be next tbh. I'd figure another undead team since we only have one so far (and we have 3 elf teams so I hope they give those a little break for a while).

Vampire team its and original team? or was it added later?

zamerion wrote:
Vampire team its and original team? or was it added later?

Later. Original teams left are High Elves and Chaos Dwarfs at this point.

After that, you had Norse and Amazons followed by Ogres and then Necromantic and Vampire teams. Norse could be combined into a Kislev team perhaps and then you have Bretonnians which only recently made its first appearance in the Video Game...

Hopefully they don't go full Chaos marauder with the Norse and they retain more of a classic look. I'd expect them sooner rather than later. Doubt we'll ever see Kislev as they're purely from the Cyanide game (and Slann are never coming back as a team though we may get something similarly leap-orientated).

We're never getting Khorne or Bretonnian as they're currently envisaged; the lead designer doesn't like their rules (given they're fan made) or background. Personally I'd like Brets to get a rework and an offical release if only for GW to have some knight models again. So long as they don't attempt the ill fated 'Human Noble' team from the 2016 app as that was just awful.

Teams that are left:

Amazons
Chaos Dwarf
Khemri
Norse
Necromantic
Ogre
Vampire

In terms of which of those that will receive a plastic team box, I'd say "all of them" apart from Necromantic, which I imagine will likely be expanded on with forgeworld resin players. MAYBE. But who knows, they might get a box all of their own!

In terms of which is more likely to be next, I really don't know. If I were the design team I'd be most excited on working on the Chaos Dwarf, Amazon or Vampire teams, but that's me.

Amazons wouldn't be too hard for them, I mean they are pretty much Eschers sans the guns and poison vials! (or should I say Eschers are pretty much them?)