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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/10 16:28:45
Subject: GK leap Frogger list
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Speed Drybrushing
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This is going to be my second attempt at a Grey knight list, instead of worrying that i only have 30 models or less in 1500, i am going to try and maximize what i do have. So here is the list, and afterward i will explain my ideas for it.
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Grand Master
M.crafted/Digital
psycotroke
((might stick a incinerator back on this guy, not sure..it's only 5 points..worked well last game.)
Librarian
Lvl 3
Teleport Homer
Quicksilver,Might of Titan,Summoning
((was thinking of placeing the Ward staff here maybe -shrugs-))
Elite-
Purifiers 10
Halbred 7
incinerator 2
Knight of the Flame/Hammer
Purifiers 10
Falchoins 7
Psycannons 2
Knight of the Flame/hammer
Grey Knight Squad 10
Psycannon 2
Justicar/Hammer
Stormraven
Multi-Melta
Assualt Cannon
1414 points (lost on what to do with remaining 86)
So, my idea is to give Scoreing to the Purifiers If it is objective game. if not Probably counter attack. The GM and Incinerator Purifiers go into the raven and poof across the board. Librarian and Shooty Purifiers will use summoning across the table, Grey knight squad will stay in reserve or in farthest back corner of table in safety.. and wait for the librarian to pull them across the table. ((although that could really backfire with only two squads in range to be attacked )) Now again, total i only have 33 models on the table.. Not sure if maybe cheap up a few things and take a few 5 man SS squads in razorbacks.. Any ideas or thoughts out there? ((i know people are going to yell about incinerators in the 1st Purifier squad, i want it there for a reason if it doesn't work out i am going to go back with cannons.)
Edit- As i did not explaine with the Cannon Purifiers squad.. The librarian goes with them, He will cast quicksiver on them.. so on a charge if all works out(for everything with a falchoin) POOF 4 attacks 2 base +1 2 weapons +1 charge with power weapons could be damn nasty. Now if i understand Psykers being a lvl 3 means he can use 3 powers (never used a psyker army before and now have a 100% psyker army lol) So after quicksilver, i will cast Hammerhand, then Might of titans ((+2str total) so that is 40 str 6 power weapon attacks on the charge.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/04/10 16:41:57
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/10 21:06:57
Subject: GK leap Frogger list
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Looks good but why put the Hammers on the Knight of the Flame since he has the same profile of all the other Purifiers and hes the one thats going to die if you get perils on them. Also with the remainig points why not get Rhinos for the other 2 squads to go in and perhaps warp stabilization on them?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/10 21:27:45
Subject: GK leap Frogger list
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Dakka Veteran
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Arrathon wrote:This is going to be my second attempt at a Grey knight list, instead of worrying that i only have 30 models or less in 1500, i am going to try and maximize what i do have. So here is the list, and afterward i will explain my ideas for it.
HQ-
Grand Master
M.crafted/Digital
psycotroke
((might stick a incinerator back on this guy, not sure..it's only 5 points..worked well last game.)
Librarian
Lvl 3
Teleport Homer
Quicksilver,Might of Titan,Summoning
((was thinking of placeing the Ward staff here maybe -shrugs-))
Elite-
Purifiers 10
Halbred 7
incinerator 2
Knight of the Flame/Hammer
Purifiers 10
Falchoins 7
Psycannons 2
Knight of the Flame/hammer
Grey Knight Squad 10
Psycannon 2
Justicar/Hammer
Stormraven
Multi-Melta
Assualt Cannon
1414 points (lost on what to do with remaining 86)
So, my idea is to give Scoreing to the Purifiers If it is objective game. if not Probably counter attack. The GM and Incinerator Purifiers go into the raven and poof across the board. Librarian and Shooty Purifiers will use summoning across the table, Grey knight squad will stay in reserve or in farthest back corner of table in safety.. and wait for the librarian to pull them across the table. ((although that could really backfire with only two squads in range to be attacked )) Now again, total i only have 33 models on the table.. Not sure if maybe cheap up a few things and take a few 5 man SS squads in razorbacks.. Any ideas or thoughts out there? ((i know people are going to yell about incinerators in the 1st Purifier squad, i want it there for a reason if it doesn't work out i am going to go back with cannons.)
Edit- As i did not explaine with the Cannon Purifiers squad.. The librarian goes with them, He will cast quicksiver on them.. so on a charge if all works out(for everything with a falchoin) POOF 4 attacks 2 base +1 2 weapons +1 charge with power weapons could be damn nasty. Now if i understand Psykers being a lvl 3 means he can use 3 powers (never used a psyker army before and now have a 100% psyker army lol) So after quicksilver, i will cast Hammerhand, then Might of titans ((+2str total) so that is 40 str 6 power weapon attacks on the charge.
Illegal list I think...
1 Troop choice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/10 21:40:13
Subject: Re:GK leap Frogger list
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Speed Drybrushing
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damn...........your 100% right.... back to the drawing board
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Grand Master
M.crafted/Digital
psycotroke
incinerator
Librarian
Lvl 3
Teleport Homer
Quicksilver,Might of Titan,Summoning
((was thinking of placeing the Ward staff here maybe -shrugs-))
Elite-
Purifiers 10
Halbred 8
incinerator 2
Knight of the Flame
Purifiers 10
Falchoins 8
Psycannons 2
Knight of the Flame
Troop-
Grey Knight SS 5 x3
Justicar/hammer
Stormraven
Multi-Melta
Assualt Cannon
1498 Points
OK, i think i fixed my troop problem, while increasing model count. I managed to keep my main idea of the Lib and GM poofing across the table, ontop of that.. i might keep all 3 Strike squads in Reserve, since the libby has a homer. I could plop them all down near him.. I am very very sure the Stormraven will be target #1 well see what happens this Tuesday when i play. So what do you guys think now?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/11 07:30:42
Subject: Re:GK leap Frogger list
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Dakka Veteran
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Arrathon wrote:damn...........your 100% right.... back to the drawing board
HQ-
Grand Master
M.crafted/Digital
psycotroke
incinerator
Librarian
Lvl 3
Teleport Homer
Quicksilver,Might of Titan,Summoning
((was thinking of placeing the Ward staff here maybe -shrugs-))
Elite-
Purifiers 10
Halbred 8
incinerator 2
Knight of the Flame
Purifiers 10
Falchoins 8
Psycannons 2
Knight of the Flame
Troop-
Grey Knight SS 5 x3
Justicar/hammer
Stormraven
Multi-Melta
Assualt Cannon
1498 Points
OK, i think i fixed my troop problem, while increasing model count. I managed to keep my main idea of the Lib and GM poofing across the table, ontop of that.. i might keep all 3 Strike squads in Reserve, since the libby has a homer. I could plop them all down near him.. I am very very sure the Stormraven will be target #1 well see what happens this Tuesday when i play. So what do you guys think now?
One thing I might recommend, if you're really interested in getting that GM and Libby into your opponent's face and using the teleport homer, I'd suggest Mordrak with his Ghost Knights.
The unit is able to Deep Strike first turn automatically and doesn't scatter. Have the Librarian join them for the deep strike and the Instant Death shots to the Ghost Knights and the small arms fire at Mordrak to make more Ghost Knights. Assuming they survive (with the Invuls. they have a good chance) You'll get to deep strike everything that arrives T2 right in the mix with them.
This is only a suggestion of course. I just really feel that what you want to do with the GM and Libby would be more easily accomplished with the Mordrak drop (which is how I plan to play a very similar list to this one.)
Also, I agree with the Warding Stave on the Libby. I think it's worth the points.
So yeah, that's my two cents. Hope you find it useful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/11 17:41:19
Subject: Re:GK leap Frogger list
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Speed Drybrushing
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if i do that, i could scrap the Stormraven and throw in a Dreadknight( since i bought the model in haste..before test playing >.< ). MIght possibly work. having everything coming down on top of the Libby, means close quarters really quick. Also..while i am at it.. i was thinking last night.. and i think my numbers are off.. If i take Falchions on the Purifiers... They have 2 Att base +1 for Falchions +1 for 2 close combat weapons (stormbolter and falchion) and +1 on charge=5 on charge? OR is it just 2 base +1 Falchoins +1 charge= 4 on charge.
If i do go with your idea..Does Mordrak still get the Strategy ability that GK Grand masters get? (im counting on that to make Pur's scoring.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/12 15:09:38
Subject: GK leap Frogger list
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Dakka Veteran
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Yes, Mordrak has Grand Strategy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/12 17:40:34
Subject: Re:GK leap Frogger list
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Speed Drybrushing
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OK, did a bit of re working last night as the wife forced me to watch ol' Mr. Ward on dancing with the Stars (( GO STEELRS )) -clears throat- but anyhow..he is my new idea...
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Grand Master
M.Crafted/Digital
Psycotroke
Libby
Lvl 3
Teleport Homer
Quicksilver/Might of titan/Summoning ( comes with hammer hand..and says he is a lvl 2 psyc to begin with..not sure if i get to pick 1 more power as my default 2nd power))
Troops
Grey Knight SS. 10
Justicar/Hammer
Force Halberds 9
((these guys go with GM to deep strike in)
Grey Knight SS 5
Justicar/hammer
((held in reserve as my "oh gak" unit to back up whatever i need help in))
Purifiers 10
psycannon 2
halberd 7
hammer 1
((these will be given scout IF not a objective game, and outflank)
Purifiers 10
incinerators 2
Falchions 7
hammer 1
((these go with the libby, using Summoning they will Poof where needed most))
Grey knight intercepter 5
hammer/ Justicar /M.crafted
Halberds 4
((these fellers will be my change ups. ither blasting across the table with a possible scout/shunt combo, or be my tank hunters jumping around popping armor, not sure yet will see how the game goes.)
I really feel strong about this list. The Interceptor was a toss up. i could not deiced on them or a Stripped down DK w/ great sword. i figured same amount of wounds and the Interceptors can move 12' a turn. I know there is not alot of anti tank if any. But id like to se how the list turns out. I think with the 43 models i have on the table, and the abilities they have..if i play them well it could be a rough game for my opponent.
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