Early rumours about Black Templar

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**Kroothawk**

Lord Castellan over at BoLS has seen indications for a BT release sooner than many think:

So what do we think the next codexes are going to be?
Necron of course, then Templar, obviously, but what else is coming down the pipes?
(...)
BT will be sooner. They already have models and artwork for the boxes and so forth. They will be before Sisters I can guarantee it.

eldargal wrote:Doubt it, at the moment its neck and neck between Tau and SoB for who follows Necrons, none of the rumourmongers have mentioned hearing the slightest thing about BT. Some have even hinted they may not get a 5th ed codex at all.

Depends on where they get their sources. Seeing the models and artwork at the factory is pretty solid.

Harry's comment:

Sculpts have been around for at least 18 months. (and well worth a bit of saliva )

I honestly don't know the order they will appear ...

.... but if it helps, the order that I heard about them was: Grey Knights, Sisters, Black Templar.

Whilst I expect them to appear in this order .... This was a couple of years ago so anything could have happened in the development stages before release order was set in stone.

(Lord Castellan is a braver man than I ... I certainly would not be risking my todger on the table with a guarantee of anything!)

(...)
Sorry ..... I can't remember exactly when I heard about Necrons. I remember hearing about them at roughly the same time as I heard about sisters ... I seem to remember finishing off collecting my metal sisters army and buying a Necron battalion box and a monolith at about the same time. ..... I didn't mention them because they seemed to be generally accepted as being up next?
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I just went and checked.
Last July is when I finally got it straight which was first DE or Grey Knights.
At that time ... after DE and GK I thought that Necrons and sisters were next ... but did not know which order.
I don't think that will have changed.
So I imagine these two will be next and Templars after that?
(If they are a full army release).

Edit:
This rumour poster puts the BT release later:

ghost21 wrote:From what I heard BT will be in the new starter box ala Black Reach, quickly followed by their dex, as I really don't collect marines I kinda usually skip those meetings.(...)
The order I heard was BT just after 6th.

Malakai wrote:Is there a rumour that BT are going to be in the 6th ed box?

Yup, with Daemons apparently (odd choice I thought).

Malakai wrote:How reliable is this rumour? I know that anything this far out is sketchy, but maybe on a scale of 1-10?

I'd give it a 7, but remember I don't usually pay attention to Marines. I'm a Chaos and Xeno guy, but I did hear there's a character who makes a certain Grey Knights character look tame...
Oh sisters codex ... shall we say nicest codex cover of the year?(...)

The "prototypes" that a few people saw were BT and Daemons. I only report what I see annd hear.

This starter set rumour fits 100% other rumours about 6th edition starter:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/352734.page
And it puts the Sororitas Codex into 2011 (after Necrons).
Fits what I heard about 2011 becoming a busy year.

**black templar**

Im waiting for new black templar stuff.

**Sasori**

I would prefer if Black Templars came after Tau, but I would not be surprised to see them after sisters.

Here's the release schedule I would like to see

Necrons>Sisters>Tau>BT

Hey, Good news for BT players though.

**CyRevenant**

If Black Templars are really on the way, my money will be on seeing them next Spring after Sister's/Necrons.

That would keep to the Marine/NotMarine/Marine pattern we've had since the start of 5th ed.

**lord_blackfang**

In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium there are only Space Marines.

**Lokirfellheart**

lord_blackfang wrote:In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium there are only Space Marines.

Yep. Although hopefully the black templars will be an overpowered SM codex I want to play.

**redeyed**

"slaps forehead" not moree marines :(

although the templars do need an update I think Necrons/Sisters/Tau need it much more!

**Slinky**

lord_blackfang wrote:In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium there are only Space Marines.

That's right - a full 25% of the upcoming rumoured codexes!

**ironhandstraken**

GW needs to look at things apart from power armour

but we all know that will never happen

**1hadhq**

Templars?

Isn't there also a 6th ed coming?

2011 could see +1 codex, right? 2012 has at best 2 codices if wh40k is a fall release as usual.
I don't doubt necrons and sisters should be done next. But BT soon? I'd like to have them ( and a anti-ward save ), if 6th ed is a bit off.

Spoiler:

So BA, DE, GK, necrons, sisters, (BT.).... feels wrong. Rather BA, DE, GK, Necrons, SoB, Tau, BT, (orks or elfs) DA, (orks or elfs), RSM,
I guess.
Why? Necrons and sister are outdated. Plus GW can link the fluff inside, sister encountered the necrons first. Tau are more of a safety-release followed by BT to control their fluff doesn't get overboard. Orks & Eldar may have a 5th ed codex, as do DA. RSM as a CSM replacement would bring a new POV to the 6th ed starter if they replace SM as the starterbox-content/first codex.

Still can't see a reason to do BT sooner than others.

BT and DA have plastic upgrades, no hybrid kits. Got Faqs.
Maybe I just fear what could be added, looking at the chibi-hawk and the dreaded knight....

**Eberious**

Ohhhh, gets self ready for some serious overtime at work.

I can agree that BT could continue for a while longer without a new dex, given we had a update not so long ago. But would be awesome to see my main stay army brought up to date and some shiny new models. If they come this year then I'm happy.

**kenshin620**

More marines, not a surprise there

. I will wonder though how they'll tweak them I suppose.

**btemple0**

If there is a new BT release with codex and all that, all I would really like to have in hands is a BT kit akin to the SW infantry pack.

**redeyed**

If Matt Ward does the codex then they will tweek them by more silly rules and having them do things totally out of character.

Perhapse Black Templars will have a bro-mance with orks!

seriously though, be nice to see them updated...just hope Necrons/Sisters come first

**lord_blackfang**

Slinky wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium there are only Space Marines.

That's right - a full 25% of the upcoming rumoured codexes!

Yeah, that can't be right. We need to squeeze in at least 2 more chapters before any stupid old Xenos that nobody plays, anyway.

**btemple0**

redeyed wrote:If Matt Ward does the codex then they will tweek them by more silly rules and having them do things totally out of character.

Perhapse Black Templars will have a bro-mance with orks!

seriously though, be nice to see them updated...just hope Necrons/Sisters come first

You mean their Chapter master Bro-fists with some psyker.

**CaptKaruthors**

As a Templar player this annoys me. The FAQ update is good enough for now, and I like my Furious Charging terminators and command squads. I don't want them to be made into something stupid. Hey GW, we get it that you have a hard on for marines, but for feth's sake other armies need updates sooner than Templars.

**kenshin620**

CaptKaruthors wrote:As a Templar player this annoys me. The FAQ update is good enough for now, and I like my Furious Charging terminators and command squads.

If the BA codex means anything I think we will have FC, Tank Hunters, Move through cover, fleeting terminators

**JoeyHeadwounds**

I have to wonder when they'll give Chaos a little more love...

**gorgon**

I know nothing about future releases, but it sure seems to me like SM vs. CSM in the 6th ed. boxed set would make sense. Gives them the opportunity to make a new CSM codex a tentpole release of 6th ed. And since we know SM will be in the boxed set...why not BT for a 3rd ed. retro touch?

**Ma55ter_fett**

Lokirfellheart wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium there are only Space Marines.

Yep. Although hopefully the black templars will be an overpowered SM codex I want to play.

Hear! Hear!

**Kroothawk**

1hadhq wrote:Still can't see a reason to do BT sooner than others.

Because new miniatures are done for at least 18 months?

**sexiest_hero**

GK sisters and BT. That would be only 2 xenos races for 5th edition. Let that sink in, 3 years and only 2 xenos. add in BT and sisters and you have 7 Imperium armies to 2 xenos ones.

**kenshin620**

sexiest_hero wrote:Let that sink in

I think some of us has been letting that sink in ever since they made more than one marine codex

**mjl7atlas**

Noooooooooo! Where is the Dark Angels love?

**1hadhq**

Kroothawk wrote:
1hadhq wrote:Still can't see a reason to do BT sooner than others.

Because new miniatures are done for at least 18 months?

Pics ?

Begs the question what they have in store and hold off. Rumormongers seem to know only of a few "new" minis of the next codex.

**ChiliPowderKeg**

the order that I heard about them was: Grey Knights, Sisters, Black Templar.

So does this mean that the next two releases are both Imperial, or are they the next imperial releases according to the "Imperial->NotImperial-> Imperial->NotImperial" release pattern.

**lord_blackfang**

ChiliPowderKeg wrote:"Imperial->NotImperial-> Imperial->NotImperial"

That's not the pattern. It's actually SM -> not-SM -> SM -> not-SM. If we're lucky.

**dienekes96**

The tears of the xenos players are delicious.

I hope the release schedule is as follows:
GK
BT
Sisters (just kidding...no one cares about Sisters)
DA
6th edition
CSM
SM
New Army - Imperial Fists
Splash release of Ork corpses for Ork players
6th edition Space Wolves
New Army - Emperor's Children

**Vermillion**

Can't see space marines out of a starter box set, nor them doing power armour vs. power armour starters. I mean come on, give people the impression that there's other power armour armies out there that can stand up to the invincable space marines?

SM and eldar starter would be interesting, starter sets so far have been SM/orks, SM/DE, SM/nids and SM/orks again. Just hope they don't rush the damn codex...