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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 20:25:53
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 23:45:04
Subject: Announcing the Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Im probably going to this
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5000+ pts. Eldar 2500pts
"The only thing that match's the Eldar's firepower, is their arrogance".
8th General at Alamo GT 2011.
Tied 2nd General Alamo GT 2012
Top General Lower Bracket Railhead 2011
Top General Railhead 2012
# of Local Tournaments Won: 4
28-9-1 In Tournaments As Eldar.
Maintained a 75% Win Ratio As Eldar in 5th Edition GT's.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/02 18:00:08
Subject: Re:Announcing the Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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Two weeks until the GT!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 02:22:19
Subject: Announcing the Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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So who is the winner here now that it is over? We need details!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 03:05:42
Subject: Announcing the Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX
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Slave on the Slave Snares
Texas
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Dash won
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 04:38:13
Subject: Re:Announcing the Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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Made a lot of new friends, at least one bitter enemy, took lots of pictures and will do batreps as I have time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 13:41:56
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
Seattle, WA
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Fantastic Job Dash!!
Those pictures are excellent.
Hope you have those Batreps up soon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 13:48:59
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Well done, Dash!
"At least one bitter enemy" is right! Wargamescon is sure to be interesting...
Had I known, I should have thrown my first game so as to avoid facing your DE with my Necrons! 48" effective range on Venoms is too brutal. Could have reserved, but I have never had good results with that, especially as Necrons...
Did I mention I was playing Necrons?  Only Robo-player there and I went 2-3. Represent!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 13:55:28
Subject: Re:Announcing the Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Dashofpepper wrote:Made a lot of new friends, at least one bitter enemy, took lots of pictures and will do batreps as I have time.
Congratulations...PUNK!
I guess we have to make you an honorary Texan now. We need the address on where to send your oil wells.
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-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 16:17:47
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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Wolf 11x wrote:Well done, Dash!
"At least one bitter enemy" is right! Wargamescon is sure to be interesting...
Had I known, I should have thrown my first game so as to avoid facing your DE with my Necrons! 48" effective range on Venoms is too brutal. Could have reserved, but I have never had good results with that, especially as Necrons...
Did I mention I was playing Necrons?  Only Robo-player there and I went 2-3. Represent!
Was nice to meet you and your dad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 16:25:16
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Great pics!
That big Daemon Prince (I think it's a Daemon Prince) reminds me a lot of Shao Khan!
If what I hear is true, congratulations!
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 16:27:38
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
USA
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hehe I thought Dash was going to use his triple mono necron list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 17:41:53
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Wolf 11x wrote:Well done, Dash!
"At least one bitter enemy" is right! Wargamescon is sure to be interesting...
Had I known, I should have thrown my first game so as to avoid facing your DE with my Necrons! 48" effective range on Venoms is too brutal. Could have reserved, but I have never had good results with that, especially as Necrons...
Did I mention I was playing Necrons?  Only Robo-player there and I went 2-3. Represent!
I thought Dash's army was all raiders?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 18:09:11
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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SonsofVulkan wrote:hehe I thought Dash was going to use his triple mono necron list.
Come on now, not even Dash believes in his own hyperbole.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 18:33:11
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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whitedragon wrote:Wolf 11x wrote:Well done, Dash!
"At least one bitter enemy" is right! Wargamescon is sure to be interesting...
Had I known, I should have thrown my first game so as to avoid facing your DE with my Necrons! 48" effective range on Venoms is too brutal. Could have reserved, but I have never had good results with that, especially as Necrons...
Did I mention I was playing Necrons?  Only Robo-player there and I went 2-3. Represent!
I thought Dash's army was all raiders?
If by all Raiders you mean ~8 Venoms and 3 Ravagers.  They are converted from Raiders though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 18:59:22
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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SonsofVulkan wrote:hehe I thought Dash was going to use his triple mono necron list.
They weren't done in time. The Monoliths are still unpainted, and the warriors only got half done. My wife does all the painting, and she was sick the week leading up to the GT - my DE weren't even done until Thursday night. In fact, they're still not done. I had a couple of stand-ins because she couldn't get them finished in time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 19:46:33
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Wolf 11x wrote:whitedragon wrote:Wolf 11x wrote:Well done, Dash!
"At least one bitter enemy" is right! Wargamescon is sure to be interesting...
Had I known, I should have thrown my first game so as to avoid facing your DE with my Necrons! 48" effective range on Venoms is too brutal. Could have reserved, but I have never had good results with that, especially as Necrons...
Did I mention I was playing Necrons?  Only Robo-player there and I went 2-3. Represent!
I thought Dash's army was all raiders?
If by all Raiders you mean ~8 Venoms and 3 Ravagers.  They are converted from Raiders though.
and by converted you mean just adding an extra gun and not being WYSIWYG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 19:54:00
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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To be fair, until recently they didn't have vehicle mounted SC's or a model. Technically, they still don't. So it's WYSIWYG as much as it can be
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 20:02:25
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Winged Kroot Vulture
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daKing wrote:and by converted you mean just adding an extra gun and not being WYSIWYG
Post count: 1
Fail flame fails. Also, quite a weak move to go make an alt-account to speak your mind.
Congrats Dash, can't wait to see/read some reports.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 20:11:27
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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The Chaos are nice. The Tyranids depicted are IMO rather lackluster. I presume it was a different Tyranid army that won painting awards.
I liked the purple and white DE as well. Very striking en masse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 20:27:37
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Hulksmash wrote:To be fair, until recently they didn't have vehicle mounted SC's or a model. Technically, they still don't. So it's WYSIWYG as much as it can be 
Well, rather odd for someone that has a strong stance on WYSIWIG, that's all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 20:28:25
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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What exactly is the WYSIWYG discrepancy here, exactly?
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 20:32:49
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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@MonsterRain
There isn't one. If no model exists and it's a reasonable model you can't not be WYSIWYG. It has 2 guns, is consistant across the army, and fully painted. There isn't a thing wrong with his list.
Naturally my opinion of course but I think it's fairly valid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 20:40:07
Subject: Re:Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Been Around the Block
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Bah, I knew I forgot something this past weekend.
I got too busy studying/drinking/working.
Guess I'll catch you next year, Dash if you come back to SA.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 20:41:18
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Well, technically they are raider hulls with dual dark lances on them. While there may not be a "vehicle mounted" version of the Splinter Cannon, there are plenty of plastic versions left over from the atrocious 3rd ed DE Warriors.
It just seems odd to me that someone who vehemently opposed playing Wave Serpents with Brightlances as Scatter Lasers would do something similar here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 21:12:48
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Thing is they aren't "Dark Lances" by the new WYSIWYG either. The silohuette for DL's has changed so I think it's fine across an army. Of course I'm a counts-as nut so maybe I'm the minority
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They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 21:34:34
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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whitedragon wrote:Well, technically they are raider hulls with dual dark lances on them. While there may not be a "vehicle mounted" version of the Splinter Cannon, there are plenty of plastic versions left over from the atrocious 3rd ed DE Warriors.
It just seems odd to me that someone who vehemently opposed playing Wave Serpents with Brightlances as Scatter Lasers would do something similar here.
A wave serpent with a bright lance on it counting as a scatter laser....can be confused for a wave serpent with a bright lance on it. A raider that has been cut down and reshaped into a venom with dual guns on the front...cannot be a raider, because no raiders have dual ANY guns. I've pre-ordered a full set of Venoms, and they'll arrive June 4th...and I'll pick them up when I get to those stores thereafter.
Until then though, the accepted route is to call the TO for the event you're attending, explain your conversion, possibly provide pictures, and get approval / disapproval for your conversions. Since I'm using new raiders as actual raiders, and converted old raiders as venoms, in a configuration not actually possible on a raider, there's no room for confusion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 21:55:15
Subject: Re:Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Converted raider!? really? what did you convert? You added two guns to the front, big whoop. And wrong guns at that. You didn't even try. Most DE players went out of their way to actually convert a venom from vypers or something similar. They are CLEARLY smaller than a raider in the book. Tyranid players went out of their way to convert tervigons. So don't sit there and try to say your raiders are converted.
Here are the things that bothered me about our game. The very first argument was you trying to tell me that of the 4 pieces of terrain on the board, the two hills did not count as cover. I thought that was a bit rich considering you have 9 venoms... So I didn't let you get away with that one.
Second, you were not always consistent with your dice rolls. You said anything that rolled outside your dice box would get re-rolled. That only happened once during our game but the final match I watched you do it repeatedly. Just very shady in my opinion that you would follow your own rule when it suited you.
Third, now this isn't exactly against the rules but also very dirty. I watched you measure movement for your side ways counts as venoms and then rotate them to gain inches. Normally I would just shake my head at such cheasy tactics just to get a win but couple that with your extra long venoms, you actually gain a lot of extra distance by doing this.
Fourth and the one that bothered me the most. You cheating me out of that charge. My base was clearly touching yours without being "under" your so called venom. Also in this instance if you had a correctly modified venom I could have charged around the other side but it was so close the judges did not want to make a solid ruling on it. So we diced off on a game changing move that should never have even been a question.
Out of the 5 people you played this past weekend, 4 of them gave you bad games. how does that make you feel? Do you feel better by cheating to win? I don't know how you won having such a crappy sportsmanship score. And giving your prize to the last place person does not redeem you. That is an act of kindness done only by winners.
I hope you come to wargamescon and try to have fun by not cheating your opponents. But I will tell you this, cheating will not be tolerated. Have fun little man.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 22:09:32
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Well, I for one am happy to see all the new faces here on Dakka!
Welcome, fellows! I would take a quick gander at the forum rules if I were you! It can only enrich your experience here.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/16 22:28:09
Subject: Alamo GT, May 14-15 in San Antonio, TX (Army Pictures Added!)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Greetings Caldera02. Welcome to Dakka!
Now on to your post. You are raising some issues you had with your game. Your post is relatively articulate, but smacks of rage and disdain. Can you tell us if others were also watching the game and could lend credence to your charges of cheating? As it is, it is going to be a he said versus he said shouting match that won't solve anything other than add more drama.
If possible, can you also give us a bit more background on yourself so we have a perspective of who we are listening and responding to?
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