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Mordrak's rule states, "if he deploys via deep strike, mordrak and ANY UNIT HE ACCOMPANIES will automatically arrive in your first turn and will not scatter." emphasis added. In order to deploy this way must the unit he accompanies already have the deep strike special rule or can he deep strike with any unit he is attached to?

A unit can only Deep Strike if it has the Deep Strike rule,

Mordrak's rule isn't granting the ability to Deep Strike, it's granting the ability to arrive automatically in the first turn if the unit Deep Strikes.

Deuce11 wrote:Mordrak's rule states, "if he deploys via deep strike, mordrak and ANY UNIT HE ACCOMPANIES will automatically arrive in your first turn and will not scatter." emphasis added. In order to deploy this way must the unit he accompanies already have the deep strike special rule or can he deep strike with any unit he is attached to?

Remember that Mordrak isn't an IC, and the only unit he can be part of (Ghost Knights) can deep strike.

LIbrarians or another GKGM (or any other termi armoured IC) could jjjoin him as well.

nosferatu1001 wrote:LIbrarians or another GKGM (or any other termi armoured IC) could jjjoin him as well.

Well a Deep Striking IC could join "THEM". As in if he takes Ghost Knights. If he's fielded without his upgrade unit, then he's a "unit that will always only consist of a single model" since Mordrak is not an IC himself. At least at the time of deployment. One he hits the field and starts taking wounds and gains a body guard, IC's could join them, but by then it's too late to use First to the Fray.

"At least at the time of deployment." is not always, as well as "if you didn't buy ghostknights" is not always. If you only buy a single model of a unit which could have more models, an IC can join it.

Kryhavok - nope. Mordrak and his ghost knights are a unit that consists of 1+ models. You can join an IC to him no matter how many Ghosts have been bought.

Really? Because it looks like on his Armoury page, if you're not buying ghost knights, then his unit composition is: 1 (Unique). Not 1+.

If you do buy Ghost Knights then you have a squad with a unit composition of 1-5 + Mordrak who acts an an upgrade character for that unit.

kryhavok wrote:Really? Because it looks like on his Armoury page, if you're not buying ghost knights, then his unit composition is: 1 (Unique). Not 1+.

If you do buy Ghost Knights then you have a squad with a unit composition of 1-5 + Mordrak who acts an an upgrade character for that unit.

1+ means it can be one or more. There just needs to be the option of more than 1. Even if he is alone he could have had more, thus he is not always a single model.

Melchiour wrote:

kryhavok wrote:Really? Because it looks like on his Armoury page, if you're not buying ghost knights, then his unit composition is: 1 (Unique). Not 1+.

If you do buy Ghost Knights then you have a squad with a unit composition of 1-5 + Mordrak who acts an an upgrade character for that unit.

1+ means it can be one or more. There just needs to be the option of more than 1. Even if he is alone he could have had more, thus he is not always a single model.

That's the thing, his unit composition is not 1+. With out Ghost knights, it's 1 (Unique). Even in his definition of the Ghostly Body Guard special rule, he acts as an upgrade character for that unit up until the Ghost Knights are slain, at which point he reverts to being a "single-model unit in his own right" So with out any Ghost knights (purchased or summoned) he is a single-model unit.

kryhavok wrote:

Melchiour wrote:

kryhavok wrote:Really? Because it looks like on his Armoury page, if you're not buying ghost knights, then his unit composition is: 1 (Unique). Not 1+.

If you do buy Ghost Knights then you have a squad with a unit composition of 1-5 + Mordrak who acts an an upgrade character for that unit.

1+ means it can be one or more. There just needs to be the option of more than 1. Even if he is alone he could have had more, thus he is not always a single model.

That's the thing, his unit composition is not 1+. With out Ghost knights, it's 1 (Unique). Even in his definition of the Ghostly Body Guard special rule, he acts as an upgrade character for that unit up until the Ghost Knights are slain, at which point he reverts to being a "single-model unit in his own right" So with out any Ghost knights (purchased or summoned) he is a single-model unit.

The rules say that an IC cannot join a unit that ALWAYS consists of a single model. Here is the question. Can Mordrak EVER be a unit of more than 1 model. The answer is yes. So he is not always a single model. Since he does not ALWAYS consist of a single model, other IC's can join him.

Melchiour wrote:The rules say that an IC cannot join a unit that ALWAYS consists of a single model. Here is the question. Can Mordrak EVER be a unit of more than 1 model. The answer is yes. So he is not always a single model. Since he does not ALWAYS consist of a single model, other IC's can join him.

Grand Master Mordrak always consists of a single model. If you take a unit of Ghost Knights, then he becomes an upgrade character of that unit.

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