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After reading the new GK codex i noticed that there was comment made about a box in the center of Titan that contains some dark secret only the Supreme Grand Master can know.

Does anyone know whats in the box, or have any Theorys as to what it might be.

P.S. If there has been threads about this before im sorry i didn't realise

It's the Mystery Box.

Anything could be inside. Maybe even another box!

Kanluwen wrote:It's the Mystery Box.

Anything could be inside. Maybe even another box!

lol you can imagine Kaldors face
"yes i can finaly know the secret... oh it's just another box... !"

I think that's the box with a single piece of paper that said " I am not true god. Sing: Emperor of Mankind".

Seriously, who knows. Maybe the most horrible secrets ( like Dark Angel truth ) are hidden there. And something that can make a stench on the Emperor's name.

There are just to much to guess here...

Maybe it's the all the Space Marine's Genitalia.

Wait...

I think it may either be:

A) The True and uncorrupted DNA of the Emperor

B) The identity of the one who scattered the Primarks throughout the stars and info how to kill him/it

WARNING: PERSONAL THEORY.

My person theory/belief is that the box contains an order to kill the big E. Why? I think that the Emperor knew about those worshiping him and knows that if he dies he will become a "chaos god" even though he does not want to. He will only accept this fate, yes even over being a skeleton, if it is the only option for humanities survival. So when we (humanity) come to the brink of being ended, the Supreme Grand Master pulls the plug and the the Emperor saves the day.

SonofTerra wrote:WARNING: PERSONAL THEORY.

My person theory/belief is that the box contains an order to kill the big E. Why? I think that the Emperor knew about those worshiping him and knows that if he dies he will become a "chaos god" even though he does not want to. He will only accept this fate, yes even over being a skeleton, if it is the only option for humanities survival. So when we (humanity) come to the brink of being ended, the Supreme Grand Master pulls the plug and the the Emperor saves the day.

Good thesis but if you've read starchild (i know not everyone agrees with it) when the Emperor finaly goes because of all the psykers who sacrificed themselves to give him power and keep him alive the Emperor will come back as a god and will continue the fight for mankind as a god

has anybody read the Michael Crichton Book "Sphere"?

But in all seriousness I bet Ward just thought he was being witty and putting a reference to Pandora's box in the codex- I mean... who else would have it except the grey knights. Too bad its already been opened and the only thing remaining in the box is "hope".

If you take the Pandora's box metaphore far enough, you could argue that whoever opened it released the chaos gods upon the world.

Basically Grey Knights are a bunch of dicks and keeping all the hope to themselves while the Imperial Guard gets its hands dirty and deals with the evil .

Wikipedia wrote:Pandora's box is an artifact in Greek mythology, taken from the myth of Pandora's creation around line 60 of Hesiod's Works and Days. The "box" was actually a large jar (πιθος pithos) given to Pandora (Πανδώρα) ("all-gifted"), which contained all the evils of the world. When Pandora opened the jar, the entire contents of the jar were released, but for one – hope.[1] Today, opening Pandora's box means to create evil that cannot be undone.

It's pretty much the same as the final vault in FFG's 'Deathwatch' RPG - i.e. a deep dark secret thing unknown even to the people who guard it that is only to be opened under particularly grim circumstances, and will probably never actually be revealed.


Of course, the difference between the two is that there is a very slim chance that FFG actually does intend for their particular macguffin to be revealed, while the box on Titan will remain forever the subject of guesses.

SonofTerra wrote:WARNING: PERSONAL THEORY.

My person theory/belief is that the box contains an order to kill the big E. Why? I think that the Emperor knew about those worshiping him and knows that if he dies he will become a "chaos god" even though he does not want to. He will only accept this fate, yes even over being a skeleton, if it is the only option for humanities survival. So when we (humanity) come to the brink of being ended, the Supreme Grand Master pulls the plug and the the Emperor saves the day.

HERESY!

akaean wrote:

Wikipedia wrote:Pandora's box is an artifact in Greek mythology, taken from the myth of Pandora's creation around line 60 of Hesiod's Works and Days. The "box" was actually a large jar (πιθος pithos) given to Pandora (Πανδώρα) ("all-gifted"), which contained all the evils of the world. When Pandora opened the jar, the entire contents of the jar were released, but for one – hope.[1] Today, opening Pandora's box means to create evil that cannot be undone.

So, Pandoras Box (Jar) contains all the evils of the world and when it was opened all the evils came out except hope... so hope is evil?

As a Newcastle United supporter I can confirm that hope is evil...

How big is the box?

If it's very small than it contains a letter from Malcador the Sigillite ordering the death of the Emperor to facilitate his rebirth.

If it's small 6"x6"x6" box than obviously it opens a dimensional gateway to the realm of the Cenobites from Hellraiser.

If it's 14"x14"x14" than it obviously holds Gwyneth Paltrow's head.

Haha, Hellraiser is awesome. I hope that somewhere there is a Cenobite themed chaos army.

I think it is something like the top from inception and when you look at it you realize your just in a dream and that YOU control everything that is happening.

Maybe it's a sample of the emperor's DNA, which is the source of their geneseed.

The box contains the following:

1) the complete background to the two lost legions
2) The "real" reason there cant' be female space marines
3) The real name of CS Goto

and Is made of the amount of wood a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.

General Omega wrote:Haha, Hellraiser is awesome. I hope that somewhere there is a Cenobite themed chaos army.

yearh its called dark eldar

and as for the box: a simple note that says: This world is entirely fictional.

There is a piece of string inside.

When pulled, it reveals a secret compartment that has an embarrassing picture of the big E inside.

It's got the angry marines inside it.

Maybe it has Mortarion's heart? How else would Draigo have, uh, carved a name into it?

It has Obamas real Birth certificate.

My personal opinion is that it has some way of detonating either the Earth, or maybe every single planet in the universe, afterall... it is called the "Terminus Decree". The name kinda says it all.

Maybe it uses the Astromacian (forget how it's spelled) to wipe out life, afterall the Emperor still does generate that.

geordie09 wrote:

akaean wrote:

Wikipedia wrote:Pandora's box is an artifact in Greek mythology, taken from the myth of Pandora's creation around line 60 of Hesiod's Works and Days. The "box" was actually a large jar (πιθος pithos) given to Pandora (Πανδώρα) ("all-gifted"), which contained all the evils of the world. When Pandora opened the jar, the entire contents of the jar were released, but for one – hope.[1] Today, opening Pandora's box means to create evil that cannot be undone.

So, Pandoras Box (Jar) contains all the evils of the world and when it was opened all the evils came out except hope... so hope is evil?

As a Newcastle United supporter I can confirm that hope is evil...

IIRC my greek mythology, Zeus' plan was that hope would be killed by all the evils released before it (because he basically wanted the human race to die at the time). Which is why it was at the bottom of the box. But Pandora was able to stop hope from escaping, thus saving hope for mankind.

rabidaskal wrote:

geordie09 wrote:

akaean wrote:

Wikipedia wrote:Pandora's box is an artifact in Greek mythology, taken from the myth of Pandora's creation around line 60 of Hesiod's Works and Days. The "box" was actually a large jar (πιθος pithos) given to Pandora (Πανδώρα) ("all-gifted"), which contained all the evils of the world. When Pandora opened the jar, the entire contents of the jar were released, but for one – hope.[1] Today, opening Pandora's box means to create evil that cannot be undone.

So, Pandoras Box (Jar) contains all the evils of the world and when it was opened all the evils came out except hope... so hope is evil?

As a Newcastle United supporter I can confirm that hope is evil...

IIRC my greek mythology, Zeus' plan was that hope would be killed by all the evils released before it (because he basically wanted the human race to die at the time). Which is why it was at the bottom of the box. But Pandora was able to stop hope from escaping, thus saving hope for mankind.

Zeus... what a lovely dude.

I beleive that whatever is in the box, needs to be hidden and kept there because it NEEDS to be hidden.

I doubt it will be anything to do with the starchild theory/humanity making a comeback at a given time.

Its more logical *i know ive broken a sacred rule that logic does not apply * that the contents of the box are damaging to the Imperium or would be if the contents fell into the wrong hands (eg a hidden copy of the book of magnus? im just playing with ideas other than killing the emporer etc)

On a tangent though, the book of magnus could explain some source for their improved power against demons? Dont have a full understanding of the book but i jsut came up with the idea

Dan

A cake...which is a lie...

The mystery box could contain anything, even a boat! You know how much I want one of those!

/Family Guy References!