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That's unfortunate, but good to know!

Here's a question - how do the CC Skeletons compared to the Skeleton warband for Underworlds (excluding the guy climbing out of his grave, for obvious reasons).

 Dysartes wrote:
Here's a question - how do the CC Skeletons compared to the Skeleton warband for Underworlds (excluding the guy climbing out of his grave, for obvious reasons).

I don't have the image on hand, but from what I've seen, they are pretty close.

Wow, scale creep. Unless that mace vampire is especially large compared to the rest of them, I don't think I want to get them, now. I was going to use them as a basis for a skirmish band for several rulesets, but I'm not a big fan of vampires who are as large, or larger, than Stormcast. What's the point of large, superhuman models like Blightlords, Stormcast, and Primaris marines if everything "normal" eventually ends up being re-released the same size as them?

 AegisGrimm wrote:
Wow, scale creep. Unless that mace vampire is especially large compared to the rest of them, I don't think I want to get them, now. I was going to use them as a basis for a skirmish band for several rulesets, but I'm not a big fan of vampires who are as large, or larger, than Stormcast. What's the point of large, superhuman models like Blightlords, Stormcast, and Primaris marines if everything "normal" eventually ends up being re-released the same size as them?

To make the 54mm "Initialis" marines even more impressive!

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
This pic shows the new vampire close to a head taller than a Primaris Marine. The model on the left is (I think) an Oathmark mini. I measured it and it was 28mm from foot to eyeball, rather than the 40mm the new vampire is. If the scales of 40k and AoS are the same, then this is making that Vampire a massive 9 foot tall.

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I don't know if he is really taller. First, base is higher. Second, you didn't push him all the way into the base. That's another 2 mm. Third, he is standing fully upright, unlike primaris. Yes, primaris sized vampire is kinda weird but seeing he is the huge bruiser type maybe he is just tallest guy around.

 Irbis wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
This pic shows the new vampire close to a head taller than a Primaris Marine. The model on the left is (I think) an Oathmark mini. I measured it and it was 28mm from foot to eyeball, rather than the 40mm the new vampire is. If the scales of 40k and AoS are the same, then this is making that Vampire a massive 9 foot tall.

Spoiler:

I don't know if he is really taller. First, base is higher. Second, you didn't push him all the way into the base. That's another 2 mm. Third, he is standing fully upright, unlike primaris. Yes, primaris sized vampire is kinda weird but seeing he is the huge bruiser type maybe he is just tallest guy around.

He seems to be roughly the same height as his three warbund buds.

 Irbis wrote:

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
This pic shows the new vampire close to a head taller than a Primaris Marine. The model on the left is (I think) an Oathmark mini. I measured it and it was 28mm from foot to eyeball, rather than the 40mm the new vampire is. If the scales of 40k and AoS are the same, then this is making that Vampire a massive 9 foot tall.

Spoiler:

I don't know if he is really taller. First, base is higher. Second, you didn't push him all the way into the base. That's another 2 mm. Third, he is standing fully upright, unlike primaris. Yes, primaris sized vampire is kinda weird but seeing he is the huge bruiser type maybe he is just tallest guy around.

All the vampires in the Crimson Court box are about the same size, although the one with wings is stooped.

If you want to see the scale creep, here's the new vampire next to an older GW one which is also apparently in the same 28mm scale.
These new vamps are certainly bred from 9 foot tall stock.

Well, you certainly wouldn't want to bump into him in a dark alley...

Is it scale creep, or simply a design decision that vampires are exceptionally tall? Other recent releases aren’t consistently bigger than minis from the last few years.



Having said that, the Cursed City adventurers are really big, but the skellies and zombies are not.

The bigger the scale the better the proportions will look.

I think it may just be the WoW factor, heroes and dungeon bosses in World of Warcraft tended to tower over mere mortals, maybe GW has decided to make characters stand out a little more for some reason.

warl0rdb0b wrote:
I think it may just be the WoW factor, heroes and dungeon bosses in World of Warcraft tended to tower over mere mortals, maybe GW has decided to make characters stand out a little more for some reason.

The kits for warcry seem to follow that logic within themselves, as the leader figure, and the second in command types are usually much bigger than all the other models.

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Is it scale creep, or simply a design decision that vampires are exceptionally tall? Other recent releases aren’t consistently bigger than minis from the last few years.



Having said that, the Cursed City adventurers are really big, but the skellies and zombies are not.

That is not a small difference.

Is this intentional?

Jumping on the Giant Resident Evil Lady meme train?

Seeing how big they are makes me want them more.

Too bad you can't get a hold of them anywhere.

 Eldarain wrote:
Jumping on the Giant Resident Evil Lady meme train?

"Johnson, they love that Tol Lady...hit that Strech slider NOW!"

Blech. That scale has me uninterested in the vampires. They just look like they are from a different game.

Hmm. That scale is not at all encouraging. I was going to pick these up for VC, but now I'm in two minds about it. They'll just look extreme next to regular skellies and such.
Which is a shame, because they are fantastic sculpts.

It certainly is noticeable.
But it’s only just a head of difference in that latest picture. Looking at the base difference etc..


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Not that I like the creep.
I want these models to fit both with my VC and in with any new releases and vs Underworlds things..

One of my local Facebook groups has someone who took photos of them all next to Primaris marines, and all but the flying one are just soooooo overscaled.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Seeing how big they are makes me want them more.

Too bad you can't get a hold of them anywhere.

Have you checked local stores? They're sold out online over here (both GW and other online retailers), but physical stores I've been to still have several of them on the shelf.


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 Snrub wrote:
Hmm. That scale is not at all encouraging. I was going to pick these up for VC, but now I'm in two minds about it. They'll just look extreme next to regular skellies and such.
Which is a shame, because they are fantastic sculpts.

One thing I like is they haven't just upscaled the entire model, they've kept the head and hands the same but upsized the body, so the proportions are a lot better than most of GW's models.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
One of my local Facebook groups has someone who took photos of them all next to Primaris marines, and all but the flying one are just soooooo overscaled.

They seem on par, though probably a bit bigger, than the characters from Cursed City. I want to see the Crimson Court compared to other warbands from this season. Or at least the Dire/Dread Pageant compared to the models from the Hedonite release, to see if they also have a noticeable height difference

My most local store, which does fairly big business with GW, had a total of 5 warbands. They were shocked.

Distribution has been all kinds of wacky in our part of Southern California.

I figure I'll get them eventually, and I just got the lizards to get started on anyways.

By some fluke or other, one of my local stores is a real massive seller of Underworlds. They generally receive and sell 75-90 of any warband.

This time they got six which were sold in minutes.

No explanation other than GW is in some real distribution gak as of late.

Two of the local shops(one of which is a GW that sells Underworlds pretty well) for me did not get more than two of the Vampire or Lizardmen sets. Was kind of a bummer, to be honest.

I called the local GW store yesterday and they had a few in stock, had them save me a set of the lizardmen and vampires. By the time I got there they only had 1 left on the shelf. I was considering buying that 2nd Vampire set but it sold while I was browsing paints. If you find em, get em quick

My shop still had two of the Lizardman team last night, but never had shelf copies of the vampires, only got a couple and they went t o pre-ordered people.

Did anybody get the AOS Warscroll for the Crimson Court?
Or did they not put it up before the warband went out of stock?

 skrulnik wrote:
Did anybody get the AOS Warscroll for the Crimson Court?
Or did they not put it up before the warband went out of stock?

It's not up, most likely because it is for Battletome: Soulblight Gravelords.