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Lethal Lhamean






Venice, Florida

Greetings,

I think this was the...5th? matchup Lorek and I have faced off with, and our second under the new DE dex (for Lorek's sake I hope some day to be able to say we're having some fights under a new Tau dex).
In any case, this is an interesting writeup because of a couple of things.

1. We actually had this battle back in January and I'm just writing it up now.
2. I took no notes.
3. As I discovered later, I was actually playing this battle while coming down hard with a cold (I just thought I was tired, though Lorek actually seemed concerned and kept asking me if we should take a rain check on the game - so I may have been worse off than I recall)

In any case, as a result my recollection of the battle is probably a bit spotty. Still - I took these photos and I'm going to use them, darnit.

The Armies

Ah... yeah, as I said, I was really sick, um...

My list was definitely almost assuredly sorta;

A Haemon w. Liquifier and Scissorhand (I really think I was only running the one)
3 Wych Raiders - Hekatrix, Agonisers, squad size of 7 apparently.
3 Dakka Venoms w. Blaster Troops.
3 Ravagers
A unit of Reaver JetBikes, probably with some upgrades - certainly had a Blaster and I think I stuck one of the bladevane upgrades in there, maybe even had a sarge upgrade - the points look small for my side.
Looks like I had a mini sniper Trueborn unit as well (3 Trueborn - 2 Dark Lances)

And, um, the fish heads, He wasn't running his usual Piranha party...

A Commander and Crisis Suit Squad
2 additonal Crisis Suit Squads
2 Units of Broadsides
Hammerhead
a big mob of Kroot
And 3 Firewarriors with Devilfish. Maybe some additional infantry - I dunno, I can never tell Tau units apart.

Yeah, a tactica of learning and education this batrep is not likely to be - on the plus side Lorek's paintjobs are awesome and should distract you all.

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My Trueborn mini snipers are set up in a tall ruin with a commanding line of fire down into what will soon become the killing fields.

The RJBs wait patiently behind a corpse of trees to unleash their brilliant skills of "shoot me first, ignore the valuable stuff!"

Between Venoms and terrain pretty much everything has a save in case the Tau seize.


Hi, we're a speed bump!

Tau bravery, at its finest.

I had won side selection and set up with a basic assault/gunline idea in my head. One Ravager on each flank, another in the middle with the snipers to give me lances at any point on the board I needed shot up. The Wyches were bunched near the center and the Venoms arrayed to either side. The RJBs lurked at the midpoint as well, their goal to bum rush forward while screaming 'shoot us' at the top of their lungs.

Lorek's setup...well, threw me slightly. It might have been the cold and/or exhaustion but I do remember sitting there and eyeing it for a while convinced he was messing with me - he'd just done a conventional Tau setup and with a reasonably conventional looking Tau list. Bwuh? (for those unaware, Lorek usually plays a very...aggressive Tau, and often advances across the board in reckless/brilliant/drug induced maneuvers). This time out he was going very classic gunline, with some speed bumps set up to mess with me assaulting his shooters. The only "conventional Lorek" move was he was being a little pushy with his Devilfish in the center, and mushed them up to the line.

Turn 1

Tau fail to steal the initiative and the DE are off! First off comes a blitzkrieg from the RJBs as they turboboost across the board, their bladevanes slashing at some Tau hiding in a ruin.


I also do...this...
I'm pretty sure the concept in my head was that I was going to dual assault the scouts and the Kroot, swing almost fully into the scouts to murder them, and try to sweep the Kroot via leadership fail which would then leave the Broadsides wide open for shooting.
The catch is...it's not like Lorek was exactly deploying on the line. I'm actually pretty sure even with a 6" run I wouldn't have made it, so...good job, Thor! We'll be revisiting these Wyches later...please admire the paintjobs now, I'm not sure they'll be around in any other pictures

This shows the layout of my units after movement. I know my lance fire actually did a pretty decent job vs. those Devilfish, and I'm also pretty certain I stunned/shook both Hammerheads.
I think I sort of shuffled around with those Wyches who'd disembarked, I think I ended up rolling something pathetic like '3' on my run roll.

Lay of the land at end of my turn.

In any case, in the Tau's turn - they shoot - a lot.

He definitely blows the RJBs to high heaven, still, whatever was shooting at them wasn't shooting at Raiders/Ravagers. And with Tau, the RJBs are still a potent threat if they opt to assault and tie them up.
I like this pair of shots;

Lorek's Tau blast apart something (I'm guessing a Ravager due to lack of passengers)

However, there's still lots more a'comin' Quantity is a quality all its own.

Another skimmer bites the dust.


The Kroot shuffle forward to continue speed bumping Lorek's right flank. Looks like the suits also claimed the empty Wych Raider, which is most assuredly the crater in the foreground. Lots of suits out here, lots of firepower.


Here's some Crisis Suits dealing with the RJBs

And here's other Crisis Suits dealing with the Wyches I disembarked.

Yeah, by the power of the die on its back, clearly the Hammerhead was stunned by the now dead Ravager.


Turn 2
Is it only Turn 2?


Some fresh Wyches being sent in to do some assaulting that the first group failed at due to...incompetence...on...*their* part. Yes!

Trueborn snipers line up a shot at the Devilfish, time to deal with those suckers...

Turn 2 was obviouslly a good turn of shooting for me - 3 dead Devilfish.

Let's see how deadly your targeting systems, missile pods, and gatling guns are to our thongs, whips, and pointed sticks!


I clearly had decided I wanted to deal with this firebase on the Tau left flank. As I recall, the right flank ended up being left unmolested for a while as I just sort of swung right and left the Broadsides and suits over there out of position.

Now, somewhere in here things really were getting silly for me. I distinctly recall Lorek taking a phone call and when he got back I'd actually fallen asleep ( clearly he just took a really long phone call)
I also got really spotty with my picture taking, but I'll try to keep up the narrative as best I can.


This is the remains of my Wych squad that dual assaulted the Suits and Pathfinders. They handled the assault pretty handily (as I recall - a little too handily, I think i wiped them in one turn. This is what's left of the squad after Lorek expressed his displeasure with them via massed fire.,

Here are the Kroot making a move for a diminished Warrior squad that had lost their transport.

The Broadside goes down to DE firepower, and some Wyches make their move to assault the Broadsides.

Crisis suits, Broadsides, and Drones are not fond of splinter cannons.

I apparently have no shot of the Wyches making it into assault with the Broadsides - they did and locked down/killed the unit. The speedbump of Tau infantry was shredded by Venoms at some point in the engagement.

My recollection here is very bad, I remember this pocket of suits being the heart and soul of what was left of his army, and I was just hurling Venoms and raiders towards them, all weapons blazing...

...they were cut down.


These last shots are just showing the final Tau holdouts, the Broadsides ate some lances and went down, I seem to recall that immobilized Venom in front of that building hurling s.cannon fire at the tiny squad inside for a loooong time. I think it was a little slap fest that went on for most of the game, though the Venom eventually won it.

That Venom might have even been assaulted by the Kroot - I don't recall ever getting around to killing them, though Lorek might have tipped his king prior to that. I think I lucked out with a good second turn where I toasted the Devilfish and murdered one of the Crisis Suit squads in h2h. I was also lucky I had enough skimmers and Wyches to pad me through that atrocious first round.

Lorek I think played very well, he was just caught with a slightly spread out formation that cost him when I shifted away from one of his flanks which seriously hampered the firepower he could bring to bear on me. I think I've used that trick successfully on him 2-3 times now, and I am not looking forward to the day he figures it out as I think it saved me each of those 2-3 times

In any case, Dark Eldar victory, fun game, and medication for the next two days afterwards.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/05/24 03:10:28


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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle






Jacksonville, NC

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Thanks for the report! Great looking terrain and armies.

   
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Wonderful report. love the pics.
   
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where am I? *looks around* Well i'm...errr...I...I...don't know!

That was brilliant just for the amusement, I especially liked the thongs, whips and pointy sticks comment. Nice one dude, hope you're over your cold now. Although if you're asthmatic like me it takes months to get over a cold




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Tough luck for the Tau. Lorek, I feel like you need more markerlights.

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Sentient OverBear






Clearwater, FL

Thor has a pretty good account of the game! The real kicker for me was the Wych assault on the Broadside unit on the left (my left; the three Broadsides). He got a good run roll to put them in charge range, and the first time through they actually won the combat and drove the Wyches off. Then I asked the really stupid question: "Hey, Thor, don't they have a Pain Token?"

Feel No Pain Saves == Lost combat for the Tau == Wiped Broadsides.

At this point in the game, there were so few things left that wiping that Wych squad gave me a fighting chance, and not wiping it pretty much doomed me.

This was my first game against the new Dark Eldar, and I made some big mistakes (other than, you know, playing against Thor; even zonked out, he knows what he's doing!). I kept going after Venoms that had Warrior squads in them instead of the Raiders that had the Wych squads in them, which was bad target priority at that point. I was using the three Devilfish in the middle as a screen to keep my Command Suit and his buddies out of assault, which worked pretty well for the first three or four turns.

Thor was also still getting a feel for his army, and we were both surprised by how well twin Splinter Cannons work on the Crisis Suits (basically MEQs for this purpose). I am also usually more aggressive, but I held back because:
1. It was Kill Points
2. He was in my face before I could move; I really didn't have anywhere to go. And unlike a horde army, I couldn't really Tanks Shock my way to freedom.

It was a good game and lots of fun. And all those comments Thor puts in the BatReps? He says those during the game, too!

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Lethal Lhamean






Venice, Florida

@Zid, Reecius, So-Gnar, Imperial Monkey - Thanks for the kind words. I'm the sloppy painting, but Lorek pulls me up by association. I got over the cold in about two days as I recall, though the day after this game was pretty miserable.

@Lorek - i totally forgot about the pain token thing, but you're right, that did happen and you saved my bacon. Yeah, that was a major turning point because I remember being bummed that I hadn't stopped the Broadsides, and then I had.

I think you kept going after the Venoms because they dropped out a lot of dice, and were chewing up your Suits pretty aggressively. It was definitely hampering your old tactic of making me shoot lances at them and absorbing the hits with Shield Drones.

I'm also pretty sure I'm conservative and polite during games


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Florida

I really enjoyed your commentary. It was very fun and quite informative.

Iorek's army is real beautiful and I love the precision painting he has done with his Tau. I saw it in person and was very impressed.

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a nice ramble that

as you hoped, Loreks crisp paintjob distracted me nicely

@Lorek TL-burst cannons on suits? do they work out for you?
   
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Sentient OverBear






Clearwater, FL

SevenSins wrote:@Lorek TL-burst cannons on suits? do they work out for you?


They do work, for several reasons:
1. My Firewarriors don't put out much firepower, and I tend to keep them hidden in the Devilfish, so I need some sort of anti-infantry shooting.
2. This loadout keeps the suits cheap, puts out reliable S5 shooting, and doesn't look like nearly as much of a threat as my other suits. I also run a Flamer on the third hard point, which is nice for dealing with anyone who deepstrikes too close (Descent of Angels armies, I'm looking at you!)

I do need more suits and less "crap" in this list, but it's what I have painted and I'm not willing to put any more work into this army right now (took me almost three years to finish this much).

For more on my thoughts on Crisis Suit loadouts, read the article that I wrote:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Tau_Crisis_Suit_Loadouts


@Thor: You're polite, but the trash talking is pretty damn funny.

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Lethal Lhamean






Venice, Florida

thehod wrote:I really enjoyed your commentary. It was very fun and quite informative.

Glad you dug the report. I've also got to figure out a time to manage a game against you again sometime. I mean, I know you'll "play it like that" but you were still an awesome opponent and I have to defend my DE honor after that loss Really, I just need to figure out when the next Bolter Beach is and lock down that weekend ahead of time to assure I can attend. It always seems to sneak up on me.

Lorek wrote:I do need more suits and less "crap" in this list, but it's what I have painted and I'm not willing to put any more work into this army right now (took me almost three years to finish this much).

Weren't you actually painting up some more Suits last time I saw you? Or am I smoking something?

Also, why didn't you run your Piranhas? It's probably just the DE in me, but I think those things are pretty effective and nasty, and they're usually the part of your list I sweat the most. I don't like my opponents having fast shooty things - that's my schtick.

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Dashofpepper wrote:Thor665 is actually a Dark Eldar god, manifested into electronic bytes and presented here on dakkadakka to bring pain and destruction to all lesser races. Read his tactica, read his forums posts, and when he deigns to critique or advise you directly, bookmark it and pay attention.
 
   
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Dankhold Troggoth






Shadeglass Maze

Wow, Lorek your army is really beautiful! Maybe they'll get a shiny new codex to go along with it next year

I agree that Thor seems to know what he's doing pretty well even when sick-ish. Slowly making my way through his tactics guides since I'm picking up DE (of a WWP list variety).

Ketara's helping guide me through, and pointed me to your guides, so it's nice to see you know what you're doing

   
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Florida

Thor665 wrote:
thehod wrote:I really enjoyed your commentary. It was very fun and quite informative.

Glad you dug the report. I've also got to figure out a time to manage a game against you again sometime. I mean, I know you'll "play it like that" but you were still an awesome opponent and I have to defend my DE honor after that loss Really, I just need to figure out when the next Bolter Beach is and lock down that weekend ahead of time to assure I can attend. It always seems to sneak up on me.

Lorek wrote:I do need more suits and less "crap" in this list, but it's what I have painted and I'm not willing to put any more work into this army right now (took me almost three years to finish this much).

Weren't you actually painting up some more Suits last time I saw you? Or am I smoking something?

Also, why didn't you run your Piranhas? It's probably just the DE in me, but I think those things are pretty effective and nasty, and they're usually the part of your list I sweat the most. I don't like my opponents having fast shooty things - that's my schtick.


July 14th, 15th, 16th. I do live in the Orlando area and if you want to arrange a Saturday to game, I am up for it (I just require lodging for the night). I still am in the process of painting my DE and now with the new Vypers, I am selling my old vypers to get in the new ones. I havent played DE since 2 years ago. This year at Bolter Beach I will be playing.

Edit. I did not play you at all, I believe you mistaken me for someone else, I got to bolter beach late friday. It must have been Aaron and his friend Mason, they are some good guys to play and really play hard but good natured.

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Deus Incognitus

Good batrep if not a bit hazy. Loved the paint job on Lorek's Tau.

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Lethal Lhamean






Venice, Florida

@Hod - Must have talked myself into it being you last time - I'll have to hunt down Aaron and Mason as well I'm totally saving up to buy a spread of Venoms as well, I play those suckers so much and I've been putting off converting them - now my laziness has paid off, huzzah!

I was actually in Orlando for a few months early this year working on a film and even had my army with me with the intent of trying to work in a game at one of the local shops - but generally by the weekend I always ended up spending all my time sleeping and trying not to physically move out of my hotel room - so I ended up lugging two army cases around for nothing.

@RiTides - You're firing up DE too? Feel free to hit me up for any advice you may need - though I'll admit Ketara is a very solid resource. About the only thing I'll note is I've upgraded my opinion of Baron S from what is currently reflected in the Tactica, but it's a very specific pairing with Beastmasters that I approve of.

@Lorek - from now on I'm only playing armies my DE will look better than.

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Dashofpepper wrote:Thor665 is actually a Dark Eldar god, manifested into electronic bytes and presented here on dakkadakka to bring pain and destruction to all lesser races. Read his tactica, read his forums posts, and when he deigns to critique or advise you directly, bookmark it and pay attention.
 
   
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Sentient OverBear






Clearwater, FL

Then I'll bring my partially-painted Traitor Guard next time!

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Deus Incognitus

Didn't mean to say Thor's army looks bad in comparson. Really I'm sure the pictures do your army a great injustice Thor.

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Dublin, Ireland

Great terrain, great armies, great pics.
Well done overall, very enjoyable.

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By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.

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Logan, Utah

Loved the pics on the battle report. The tau are painted well but so are your Dark Eldar. I love battle reports like this yes hazy but a lesson is learned. Thank you!

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Lethal Lhamean






Venice, Florida

You're my favorite guy just for liking my paintjobs

Thor665's Dark Eldar Tactica - A comprehensive guide to all things DE (Totally finished...till I update bits and pieces!)
Thor665's battle reports DE vs. assorted armies.
Splintermind: The Dark Eldar Podcast It's a podcast, about Dark Eldar.
Dashofpepper wrote:Thor665 is actually a Dark Eldar god, manifested into electronic bytes and presented here on dakkadakka to bring pain and destruction to all lesser races. Read his tactica, read his forums posts, and when he deigns to critique or advise you directly, bookmark it and pay attention.
 
   
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Florida

To be honest, it was hard seeing most of your army thru pics.

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