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102nd Expeditionary Fleet

Ho-hum..

Malcador and Valdor Tank Variants (Pages 48, 49, 50 & 90)
For all of these unit profiles, under the heading Unit Type replace "Vehicle (Super-heavy)" with the Unit Type “Vehicle (Tank)”. Note that the Fast type is still in effect where applicable.


Been out of the loop for quite some time now, but this feels like a nerf. I guess they were too good.

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 BrookM wrote:
Ho-hum..

Malcador and Valdor Tank Variants (Pages 48, 49, 50 & 90)
For all of these unit profiles, under the heading Unit Type replace "Vehicle (Super-heavy)" with the Unit Type “Vehicle (Tank)”. Note that the Fast type is still in effect where applicable.


Been out of the loop for quite some time now, but this feels like a nerf. I guess they were too good.



Well, it is indeed, and if it applies also for their 40K rules in the next FaQ or so,
it sure sucks big time for my (already phased out and with poor rules) renegades...

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Almost literally in the Phantom Zone.

AP3 axe-rakes! Woot!

Shame HH died locally a fair while ago...

Still happy to see that change made!

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The problem is that the statement “I should get my fair share” had an implicit “too” at the end: “I should get my fair share, too, just like everyone else.” But your dad’s response treated your statement as though you meant “only I should get my fair share”, which clearly was not your intention. As a result, his statement that “everyone should get their fair share,” while true, only served to ignore the problem you were trying to point out.

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Oh there's an edition where the Malcador is playable instead of utter trash! FIX THIS OMG NERF ASAP.

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They fixed Ashen Circle!

Now only are they 5 points cheaper per model but their Axe-Rakes are now AP3 (they were AP6)! Also, they can be joined by Moriats and Chaplains (with Jetpacks)!!!

Frag and Phosphex Rapiers were nerfed pretty hard. They were Heavy 4, 3" blast, now they are Heavy 1, 5" Blast.
   
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 Red_Five wrote:
They fixed Ashen Circle!

Now only are they 5 points cheaper per model but their Axe-Rakes are now AP3 (they were AP6)! Also, they can be joined by Moriats and Chaplains (with Jetpacks)!!!

Frag and Phosphex Rapiers were nerfed pretty hard. They were Heavy 4, 3" blast, now they are Heavy 1, 5" Blast.

As someone that was running a list heavy on those and Vorbak...that almost seems broken. That's how it feels at least.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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 Mymearan wrote:
 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
SeanDrake wrote:


Honestly the only consistently poor FW stuff is the paint jobs and the space wolf range.


I really wouldn’t go so far as the say FW is “poor”. It’s more that they’re not really any better than GW but charge higher prices. I do really like their Necromunda releases.

On the other hand, if FW ever decided to produce MkIII armour in Primaris scale, I’d be all over it.


I think when people say “FW” they mean the Forge World resin releases, not the Specialist Games plastic stuff which is consistently excellent.


Yes, I mean that too. When I say FW’s Necromunda releases I’m talking about things like the bounty hunters and the head and weapon packs.


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tneva82 wrote:


Primaris marines don't USE MKIII armour so makes no sense for them to have it. Why would forge worlds produce upscaled MKIII armour? As it is new suits of MKIII armours aren't built in 40k age anyway let alone upscaled one. And in 30k times primaris marines don't exist so no point in having upscaled armour marines couldn't use.


No, there are no Primaris marines in the 31st millennium. What there are though are space marines that are consistently described as giants in the background and a model range that utterly fails to reflect that.

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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 Red_Five wrote:
They fixed Ashen Circle!

Now only are they 5 points cheaper per model but their Axe-Rakes are now AP3 (they were AP6)! Also, they can be joined by Moriats and Chaplains (with Jetpacks)!!!

Frag and Phosphex Rapiers were nerfed pretty hard. They were Heavy 4, 3" blast, now they are Heavy 1, 5" Blast.

As someone that was running a list heavy on those and Vorbak...that almost seems broken. That's how it feels at least.


I think it puts them on more of an even footing with other melee units in other armies (like the Invictarus Suzerain).
   
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 Red_Five wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 Red_Five wrote:
They fixed Ashen Circle!

Now only are they 5 points cheaper per model but their Axe-Rakes are now AP3 (they were AP6)! Also, they can be joined by Moriats and Chaplains (with Jetpacks)!!!

Frag and Phosphex Rapiers were nerfed pretty hard. They were Heavy 4, 3" blast, now they are Heavy 1, 5" Blast.

As someone that was running a list heavy on those and Vorbak...that almost seems broken. That's how it feels at least.


I think it puts them on more of an even footing with other melee units in other armies (like the Invictarus Suzerain).

Hmm, perhaps. I know for sure I might wanna play 30k again at some point with that same list, so I'm not complaining as long as it ain't considered broken.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
 Mymearan wrote:
 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
SeanDrake wrote:


Honestly the only consistently poor FW stuff is the paint jobs and the space wolf range.


I really wouldn’t go so far as the say FW is “poor”. It’s more that they’re not really any better than GW but charge higher prices. I do really like their Necromunda releases.

On the other hand, if FW ever decided to produce MkIII armour in Primaris scale, I’d be all over it.


I think when people say “FW” they mean the Forge World resin releases, not the Specialist Games plastic stuff which is consistently excellent.


Yes, I mean that too. When I say FW’s Necromunda releases I’m talking about things like the bounty hunters and the head and weapon packs.


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tneva82 wrote:


Primaris marines don't USE MKIII armour so makes no sense for them to have it. Why would forge worlds produce upscaled MKIII armour? As it is new suits of MKIII armours aren't built in 40k age anyway let alone upscaled one. And in 30k times primaris marines don't exist so no point in having upscaled armour marines couldn't use.


No, there are no Primaris marines in the 31st millennium. What there are though are space marines that are consistently described as giants in the background and a model range that utterly fails to reflect that.


The size of the models was fine when everything was still in house and scaled properly. Then plastic Heresy models happened and everything Forgeworld produces now looks scrawny in comparison. I bought Kharn and some Red Butchers recently and was amazed at how tiny they are compared to my Calth minis.
   
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Oh I'm pretty happy I can now attach apothecary units to my slayers without gimping myself, that's going to make getting them across the board easier.

I have a reason to make a command squad now they can join primarchs.

   
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102nd Expeditionary Fleet

They have come for you..




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Edit: Ninja'd.

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 Peregrine wrote:
Oh there's an edition where the Malcador is playable instead of utter trash! FIX THIS OMG NERF ASAP.



WAAAIITT, They just nerfed the Malcador and it's varaints again?

Why?

I am confused?!? That thing is literally unseen, beyond a diorama here.

   
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Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.

That chainaxe-glaive thingy the Terminator has is awesome.

   
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Those NLs would benefit massively from better paint jobs.

   
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 sockwithaticket wrote:
Those NLs would benefit massively from better paint jobs.


These look quite good. Far better than the Space Wolf paints.
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 sockwithaticket wrote:
Those NLs would benefit massively from better paint jobs.


These look quite good. Far better than the Space Wolf paints.


The armour's decent enough (bit bright for my taste), but a lot of the detail work is distinctly average or tonally out of step. The red in particular could stand to be improved and taken back toward the more purple end of the spectrum.

   
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What are the little card things on that dreadnought?
   
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The only thing I don't like is that the corpse on the dreadnought just looks like its randomly stuck there. I think because its big and bulky and quite random - a chain of heads fits, but a single body just sorta chained there looks wrong. I think it would look better atop a shoulder impaled on spikes or with several bodies chained to its body.

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 Overread wrote:
The only thing I don't like is that the corpse on the dreadnought just looks like its randomly stuck there. I think because its big and bulky and quite random - a chain of heads fits, but a single body just sorta chained there looks wrong. I think it would look better atop a shoulder impaled on spikes or with several bodies chained to its body.


I don't mind the corpse so much. It would look much better if it weren't so clean though, this is a piece of flesh chained up to a hulking war-machine.
   
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 Overread wrote:
The only thing I don't like is that the corpse on the dreadnought just looks like its randomly stuck there. I think because its big and bulky and quite random - a chain of heads fits, but a single body just sorta chained there looks wrong. I think it would look better atop a shoulder impaled on spikes or with several bodies chained to its body.


Yeah, I see what you mean. As for the reason for its presence? Previous pilot, with the Dread being liberated from another Legion?

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I was going to say it was a spare pilot (not quite dead yet)which is why he's not rotting

 
   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Overread wrote:
The only thing I don't like is that the corpse on the dreadnought just looks like its randomly stuck there. I think because its big and bulky and quite random - a chain of heads fits, but a single body just sorta chained there looks wrong. I think it would look better atop a shoulder impaled on spikes or with several bodies chained to its body.


Yeah, I see what you mean. As for the reason for its presence? Previous pilot, with the Dread being liberated from another Legion?


There's an image plate at the back of Book VI describing this very thing. The Leviathan was originally Ultramarines which the Nightlords helped themselves to. The previous occupant was, ahem, evicted under protest...


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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I was going to say it was a spare pilot (not quite dead yet)which is why he's not rotting


Absolutely needs some blood spatter and a general macabre mess across the front of it.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That chainaxe-glaive thingy the Terminator has is awesome.


Right?

Kinda reminds me of a Bloodborne weapon in looks.
   
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 sockwithaticket wrote:
Those NLs would benefit massively from better paint jobs.


They seem to be moving away from the previous very dark blue color for the Night Lords, which is unfortunate as it make the lightning pointless because of the lack of contrast with the lighter blue. Even the dice are darker than these models...

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 zedmeister wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
 Overread wrote:
The only thing I don't like is that the corpse on the dreadnought just looks like its randomly stuck there. I think because its big and bulky and quite random - a chain of heads fits, but a single body just sorta chained there looks wrong. I think it would look better atop a shoulder impaled on spikes or with several bodies chained to its body.


Yeah, I see what you mean. As for the reason for its presence? Previous pilot, with the Dread being liberated from another Legion?


There's an image plate at the back of Book VI describing this very thing. The Leviathan was originally Ultramarines which the Nightlords helped themselves to. The previous occupant was, ahem, evicted under protest...


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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I was going to say it was a spare pilot (not quite dead yet)which is why he's not rotting


Absolutely needs some blood spatter and a general macabre mess across the front of it.

That's mildly terrifying. I like that angle.

Still needs more blood like someone said though.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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MajorWesJanson wrote:
 sockwithaticket wrote:
Those NLs would benefit massively from better paint jobs.


These look quite good. Far better than the Space Wolf paints.


that's not saying much.

FW and their painters either are hamstrung by upper mgmt or just suck. I'll always look @ the unpainted model before I make a decision whether to buy it.
   
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Paint jobs are ok, but either way, I really like the models (corpse just needs corpsifying..)
   
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I just can't see past the random tash on the severed head on that praetor..what the hell is that all about.

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