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The thing is. Is not like Tanks are cheaper to do for GW than infantry kits so... why are they spamming us with vehicles and tanks? The jetbikes I get. Those are cool.

But why another slighly different variety of the same looking tank?

 Galas wrote:
The thing is. Is not like Tanks are cheaper to do for GW than infantry kits so... why are they spamming us with vehicles and tanks? The jetbikes I get. Those are cool.

But why another slighly different variety of the same looking tank?

Part of it is probably that they were very smart with the sprue layouts so the variants aren’t actually as expensive as they might first seem.
Another part is, I suspect, that the FW vehicle moulds are wearing out faster than the infantry ones, based on my experience with FW large kits vs infantry kits and the number of times I’ve found chunks of mould buried in undercuts.
The third part is, as with every modelling decision in GW, sculptor enthusiasm or the lack thereof. Seriously, if someone near Nottingham reading this thread really wants MkVI assault infantry with Heresy era equipment, go down to Bugmans, see if any of the sculptors are there, and persuade them that assault marines are the next best thing and a real opportunity for them to show off. Or something.

I will say that currently the majority of Forgeworld's offerings right now are still 30k tanks, since AoS is empty of models now.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is indeed a way for Forgeworld to clear out space for TOW, by getting GW to shift a lot of those big bulky kits to plastic so they can retire the resin.

Once that's done, Forgeworld will truly just be for specific characters and boutique models and the other boxed games, and not a whole heck of a lot else... other than the odd Manta or Titan sale.

 Galas wrote:
The thing is. Is not like Tanks are cheaper to do for GW than infantry kits so... why are they spamming us with vehicles and tanks? The jetbikes I get. Those are cool.

But why another slighly different variety of the same looking tank?

1 upgrade sprue cheaper to do than full kit.

 Galas wrote:
The thing is. Is not like Tanks are cheaper to do for GW than infantry kits so... why are they spamming us with vehicles and tanks? The jetbikes I get. Those are cool.

But why another slighly different variety of the same looking tank?

Tanks probably are cheaper to do.

How much machining time it takes to make something is dependent on the cutters which you can use. Flat surfaces can use bigger end mills or slot mills with fewer passes. A cylinder of constant cross section can use a big ball cutter and do the cut in a few passes removing big chunks of material. A detailed cylinder of varying cross section (e.g. an arm or a leg) will require a smaller cutter and many passes only removing a small amount of material each time.

It maybe also takes longer to code infantry models, not sure, and probably longer to take the model from complete CAD to broken down into bits with gates and runners.

It wouldn't surprise me if a large tank sprue can be designed, broken down and machined faster than a small infantry sprue.

Not saying that's the reason GW haven't done infantry though.

Cost and stock management are likely to be factors, and it's probable that a lot of the vehicle kits were designed at the same time to check all the shared components worked together

Something else will be how new HH products fit into the production/release schedule around other games. Recently we've had large numbers of products made for Imperial Guard, World Eaters, and Slaves to Darkness. This summer we're looking at a massive Seraphon range update followed by 40k 10E, GW's biggest release since 2020.

Models like the Typhon tank are fairly specialist and likely to sell far fewer units than generic infantry that are key to several legions. It's easier to squeeze in a production batch of something like that alongside new IG / WE models, compared to a core infantry kit like assault marines that many HH players will want multiple boxes of.

If I had to bet I'd say the most likely time for a new HH infantry kit will be April/May, in between the peaks of 40k/AOS releases.

 xttz wrote:

If I had to bet I'd say the most likely time for a new HH infantry kit will be April/May, in between the peaks of 40k/AOS releases.

There shouldn't be many unrevealed big releases from now until Seraphon/10th in May/June.
After World Eaters 40k is finished with all factions and is probably only getting single Character models for each AoO Books plus some boxsets. Dark Angels could be bigger with the Lion but we don't know for now how much they are getting so I would only expect the Lion, Azrael and the rumored Lions Guard for now
AoS will probably only get single hero models for the five Battletomes until Seraphon with maybe a vs-box for two of them.
Kill Team and Warcry should both only get 1 more set after the LVO ones until June so new new Kill Team cycle will also not have started before 10th

So there should be quite some space for HH in the coming months
Weither they actually use that space for HH or if there is still have something else we don't know about is another question

Alpha Legion & Raven Guard MTO coming next week:

Ignore

 xttz wrote:

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Cost and stock management are likely to be factors, and it's probable that a lot of the vehicle kits were designed at the same time to check all the shared components worked together

Something else will be how new HH products fit into the production/release schedule around other games. Recently we've had large numbers of products made for Imperial Guard, World Eaters, and Slaves to Darkness. This summer we're looking at a massive Seraphon range update followed by 40k 10E, GW's biggest release since 2020.

Models like the Typhon tank are fairly specialist and likely to sell far fewer units than generic infantry that are key to several legions. It's easier to squeeze in a production batch of something like that alongside new IG / WE models, compared to a core infantry kit like assault marines that many HH players will want multiple boxes of.

If I had to bet I'd say the most likely time for a new HH infantry kit will be April/May, in between the peaks of 40k/AOS releases.

I'm not saying there isn't reasonable logic in your post, but you've literally added "GW made tanks first because they sell less than infantry would" to the list of excuses and I think that's beautiful.

Nice, been hoping for those Alpha Legion Cataphractii pads. Shame they didn't also release the Alpha Legion MkII pads alongside.

Confirmed “coming from FW” before anyone asks!

...what're we looking at, Doc?

Generic HH Librarian, Traitor Librarian, special character?

 Dysartes wrote:
...what're we looking at, Doc?

Generic HH Librarian, Traitor Librarian, special character?

Traitor Esoterist Consul

General Purpose Dirty Diabolist type. Usable by Loyalist and Naughty Boys alike.

Nice looking mini.

Shame he’s so evil.

 Nevelon wrote:
Nice looking mini.

Shame he’s so evil.

He can be used by either side, according to the article. And as Psykers go, the model is pretty agnostic in terms of its leanings.

That tabard on green armour - about as close to pure evil as I've seen in a while, people just don't do this.

JWBS wrote:
That tabard on green armour - about as close to pure evil as I've seen in a while, people just don't do this.

Dark Angels?

Ughhh of course hes resin. Interesting that it’s the backpack that has the librarian hood. Wonder how easy it’ll be to snag that and the helmet from a fw bit seller?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Nice looking mini.

Shame he’s so evil.

He can be used by either side, according to the article. And as Psykers go, the model is pretty agnostic in terms of its leanings.

I mean the staff does give it away a bit, doesn't it?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Nice looking mini.

Shame he’s so evil.

He can be used by either side, according to the article. And as Psykers go, the model is pretty agnostic in terms of its leanings.

I know you can’t tap into the hellish powers of the warp without some skulls and an 8-pointed star. Kudos for those who can and stay loyal.

Just not for me personally. YMMV

 Shadox wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Nice looking mini.

Shame he’s so evil.

He can be used by either side, according to the article. And as Psykers go, the model is pretty agnostic in terms of its leanings.

I mean the staff does give it away a bit, doesn't it?

Kind of. I think it actually plays nicely into the general lack of understanding enforced upon the Legions. You know the Eight Pointed Star helps focus your powers - but not why, because why has been kept from you. And it’s not overly pronounced which I think helps it look practical over ritualistic. Not sure ritualistic is quite the right word, but hopefully you can get the gist of my waffle.

I think you could get away with him as a loyalist librarian but not replacing the staff top would be a bit of a reach.

He's nice, but to be honest I was hoping that they'd make generic command characters in plastic. And he works for some legions better than others, he's a bit dour for the cray cray that Emperors Children Esoterists probably were by the time there was much Mark VI armour floating around...

The article says Loyalists can take Esoterist Consuls, but this specific sculpt is explicitly the Traitor variety

That skull wouldn't fit in his head, just saying.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
That skull wouldn't fit in his head, just saying.

Someone has to take ol' Ferrus for walkies from time to time.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
That skull wouldn't fit in his head, just saying.

I was puzzled, as I read that as “wouldn’t fit in his hand”. Then I remembered how to read.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
That skull wouldn't fit in his head, just saying.

Good thing he's already got one in there then