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I don't usually like robed marines (whether on top of or under the armor), but the over all look of this one is pretty good.

Falls apart on detail though- the thickness of robes around the raised arm, the gun strapped to the outside of the robes, the floating-on-fabric shoulder pads.

The hodge-podge of traditions is fairly interesting. Runes and books and skulls and vials/canisters and whatever that slice of.. meat?(crystal?) is at the center of the staff. This guy is grabbing anything that might possibly work.

Voss wrote:


The hodge-podge of traditions is fairly interesting. Runes and books and skulls and vials/canisters and whatever that slice of.. meat?(crystal?) is at the center of the staff. This guy is grabbing anything that might possibly work.

We usually have Astartes Psykers, and Heretic Sorcerors - this dude is probably the first model of an Astartes Wizard.

This guy should be plastic.

 Snord wrote:
This guy should be plastic.

It should so prepare for another tank

On a side note, had been hoping this week would be the mystery Almost Certainly Chaos Model from the tease vid.

Maybe next week

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
On a side note, had been hoping this week would be the mystery Almost Certainly Chaos Model from the tease vid.

Maybe next week

It's an assassin, they'll not strike on the day you expect them.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

JWBS wrote:
That tabard on green armour - about as close to pure evil as I've seen in a while, people just don't do this.

Dark Angels?

Red and green can just look really bad together sometimes. That's the old orthodox opinion anyway, one that I happen to agree with.

It's an nice model...
there's just one issue, this being the traitor version and all that, yeah, well technically the big thing for the traitor version is summoning daemons. Daemons for which we require the rules.
Which we don't have so far, because the free PDF's for Ruinstorm nor militia and cults hasn't dropped yet.
So yay, it's a nice modell, shame that the explicit reason to field this dude isn't yet released

I like the overall look, but the execution of the model is a little sub par. The robe sleeve is completely solid -- the darkness is painted on.

In fact, it looks like there's almost no use of the benefits of the resin medium *at all*. I mean, at least if they're going to subject us to their sub-par version of the medium, can they please use the few advantages it has?

They continue to demonstrate why Forgeworld resin is disliked.

I really like it overall - bring on the beakie consuls - but disappointed it's not plastic as I'd hoped that generic consuls would swing in that direction.

*resets the clock on plastic melee infantry*

SM Libby conversion material eh?

Not bad

In and of itself it's a nice model, although I do share Voss' misgivings about some of the details. While the thick fabric around the raised arm is unsightly, I think painting more of it as black negative space will help it look less like a huge chunk of resin and more like actual cloth. Hopefully the shoulder pads are unattached or at least easily removed as well.

Mocked this up. Not going to win any awards, but it gives an idea of how the robes could look if painted right.

Great conversion potential here.


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 Snrub wrote:
In and of itself it's a nice model, although I do share Voss' misgivings about some of the details. While the thick fabric around the raised arm is unsightly, I think painting more of it as black negative space will help it look less like a huge chunk of resin and more like actual cloth. Hopefully the shoulder pads are unattached or at least easily removed as well.

Mocked this up. Not going to win any awards, but it gives an idea of how the robes could look if painted right.

I think less needs painting block black and more a transition to black to give the illusion of the depth of the sleeve. You could also Dremel or carve it out to make it look more realistic.

On second look, whats he doing with his hand? Looks like a triumphant teenager...

Heh..

I really like that mini.

And I'm not normally a fan of unhelemted Marines.

Carving out then sculpting will be the only way to fix that surely, can't be done with paint or they would have done it. It's quite a strange flaw imo I wonder how this happened, it's glaring and offputting, although I didn't notice it at first, I skim read a negative comment then had another look with a critical eye and it immediately jumps out when you know there's something awry without knowing the specifics. Maybe it's a training sculpt or something. Looks very good to me apart from the sleeve, a lot better than most of the one off minis that don't turn out great but which then subsequently get released (like as some sort of limited availability product, guaranteeing sales to the section of the audience who are always susceptible to that technique).

That sleeve is where all the materials from the Dorn holes wound up.

Not a bad model, but also not super inspiring.

Also, keep in mind that for many Traitor armies he's basically useless until we get the Daemons of the Ruinstorm rules.

JWBS wrote:
Carving out then sculpting will be the only way to fix that surely, can't be done with paint or they would have done it. It's quite a strange flaw imo I wonder how this happened, it's glaring and offputting, although I didn't notice it at first, I skim read a negative comment then had another look with a critical eye and it immediately jumps out when you know there's something awry without knowing the specifics.

I agree - I didn’t really notice it either at first, but now it seems very obvious. Yet this is something that resin models are specifically good at avoiding - you can normally achieve more depth with hollow spaces. I wonder if it was originally going to be plastic?

I'll be honest, I didn't notice it until someone pointed it out.

Quite like the model. It would make a good base for a Librarian. I wonder how hard it would be to move that psychic hood onto a jump pack. Though I must echo Not Online and drbored in wondering just when the rules for Daemons of the Ruinstorm will be released, since those will be needed to fulfill the model's intended use as an Esoterist.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Though I must echo Not Online and drbored in wondering just when the rules for Daemons of the Ruinstorm will be released, since those will be needed to fulfill the model's intended use as an Esoterist.

Give 'em time. There's like 16 more tanks they've got to convert to plastic first!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Though I must echo Not Online and drbored in wondering just when the rules for Daemons of the Ruinstorm will be released, since those will be needed to fulfill the model's intended use as an Esoterist.

Give 'em time. There's like 16 more tanks they've got to convert to plastic first!

Well, like 9, and the rest are sprue swaps or can be combined at best.

Unless you add Landspeeders and Fliers. Plastic Storm Eagle/Fire Raptor would do well.

Found this on Faeit 212

No Assault or Breacher or otherweise Close Combat Infantry before Summer.
New Terminators of the Indomitus Pattern which can be used for 40k (option for Crux Terminatus on shoulder pads or without them). Seperate Sprue/Box for Close Combat Weapons
New Terminator Praetor with Indomitus Pattern Armour in Plastic, which comes with parts to show chaos influences and could maybe used as a Chaos Lord in 40k.
New "two Armies" Box Set in August with MkII Power Armour and a complete new close combat Dreadnought Pattern.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2023/02/horus-heresy-rumors-new-boxset-and.html

Take it with Salt...

RazorEdge wrote:
Found this on Faeit 212

No Assault or Breacher or otherweise Close Combat Infantry before Summer.
New Terminators of the Indomitus Pattern which can be used for 40k (option for Crux Terminatus on shoulder pads or without them). Seperate Sprue/Box for Close Combat Weapons
New Terminator Praetor with Indomitus Pattern Armour in Plastic, which comes with parts to show chaos influences and could maybe used as a Chaos Lord in 40k.
New "two Armies" Box Set in August with MkII Power Armour and a complete new close combat Dreadnought Pattern.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2023/02/horus-heresy-rumors-new-boxset-and.html

Take it with Salt...

That sounds made-up. The bolded part especially - a chaos lord in 40k ought to be on the upper end of chaosification, while a dual loyalist-traitor kit with some chaosy parts is probably on the lowest possible end. A new Dreadnought pattern is somewhat like the free space in rumour bingo - it's one obvious avenue of expansion that they can take that has appeal for most legions, and currently only 2 of the 3 'classic' RT-era dreads have been updated, so it's a pretty safe guess. New army box in August also messes with the probable course of 40k 10th edition - the edition itself will probably release in June, so one can probably infer that the next couple of months will spotlight Space Marines of some sort and the other army in the starter box, which is supposed to be Tyranids. So we have something improbable, a safe guess and something even more improbable...

New Indomitus Termies for HH2.0? Seeing as Indomitus termies got legended in 2.0, I'm calling BS on that one. There has been rumours about new terminators for 40K though, which sounds much more believable.

 tauist wrote:
New Indomitus Termies for HH2.0? Seeing as Indomitus termies got legended in 2.0, I'm calling BS on that one. There has been rumours about new terminators for 40K though, which sounds much more believable.

Indomitus Terminators is the one thing HH positively does not need at all, weird rumour.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Well, like 9, and the rest are sprue swaps or can be combined at best.

Unless you add Landspeeders and Fliers. Plastic Storm Eagle/Fire Raptor would do well.

Thanks for correcting an obvious exaggeration. It made it funnier.

JWBS wrote:
Carving out then sculpting will be the only way to fix that surely, can't be done with paint or they would have done it. It's quite a strange flaw imo I wonder how this happened, it's glaring and offputting, although I didn't notice it at first, I skim read a negative comment then had another look with a critical eye and it immediately jumps out when you know there's something awry without knowing the specifics. Maybe it's a training sculpt or something. Looks very good to me apart from the sleeve, a lot better than most of the one off minis that don't turn out great but which then subsequently get released (like as some sort of limited availability product, guaranteeing sales to the section of the audience who are always susceptible to that technique).

It looks to me as if the arm extending out was meant to have a capping bit for the sleeve.