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Space Marine Captain - Bike - Relic blade -Artificer Armor
Total: 180

Command Squad -Bikes -4 lightning claws -2 storm shields
Total: 295

Chaplain -Bike
Total: 135

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 melta guns -Attack Bike w/ MM
Total: 185

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 melta guns -Attack Bike w/ MM
Total: 185

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 melta guns -Attack Bike w/ MM
Total: 185

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 flamers -Attack Bike
Total: 165

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 flamers -Attack Bike
Total: 165

Predator -Las Sponsoons
Total: 120

Vindicator -Dozer Blade
Total: 120

Vindicator
Total: 115

What do you think now?

Well since the melta squads are gonna be closer that seems logical that you should put PF there.

The list looks solid, its fast and packs a punch. My only thing is that first, the Iornclad looks a little out of place. Idk what you're trying to do with him? One of my buddies did this with every list, and I always killed it the next turn. So you you want a to distract your opponent then its great for that otherwise I just don't know if it fits with the rest of the list. But thats just me.

Landspeeders seem to fit in perfectly, as well as the Vindicator. Idk if you've ever tried Scout bikes w/ Melta bombs (idk if they can get them anymore), but that was always my favorite trick when I played. Turbo boost, then assault a Leman Russ that hasn't moved yet or something. Anyways good luck.

Yeah with the dread i would swap it out for a vanguard vet squad with pw and a th. kills everything in cc, also get backpacks then they keep the fast theme.
yes give the pf to the meltagun sqds.
also take a bike sgd out an max out the others.
also i would trade in some of the ls missile launchers for assault cannons, an heavy bolters for some multimeltas.
also have you thought about a all lassacannon predator?

I'll change the ironclad with Vanguard vets since I need a cc unit anyway but the ironclad is decent at distracting. I've tried a normal assault squad but found they didn't have enough punch but a vanguard squad should. I'll try out the 5 man squads for a bit and see if their survivable enough or if I need to max out the squads. I think I'll keep the missile launchers on the speeders to keep some long range fire. If I fnd that the typhoons don't have enough fire power then I may add a las predator.

sounds like a good plan. pm me on how you do will you?

Sure still gotta work on tactics this army though

Yeah fair enough, i've just started my da bike army, no idea how to play it:L

PFs in a 5 man bike squad is really a waste. Vanguard squad is simply waaaay to expensive for what you get. 40pts/model that only has a +3 save is not good at all. If you feel the need to include a CC squad then go for the command squad on bikes instead.

While keeping as close to your original list I would go for something like this:

Space Marine Captain - Bike - Relic blade
Total: 165
Command Squad (Bikes, 4xPlasma, 2xStorm Shields, PF) = 320

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 melta guns -Attack Bike w/ MM
Total: 185

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 melta guns -Attack Bike w/ MM
Total: 185

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 melta guns -Attack Bike w/ MM
Total: 185

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 flamers -Attack Bike Total: 165

Bike Squad -Extra man -2 flamers -Attack Bike Total: 165

Landspeeder Squadron -Missle launcher - hvy bolter x 2
Total: 180

Landspeeder Squadron -Missle launcher - hvy bolter x 2
Total: 180

Predator = 60

Predator = 60

More bikes, same amout of long range fire, better CC and two predators that can act as cheapish mobile cover/LOS blocker that also carries a gun. Either for your Typhoons or for your advancing bikes

awesome list man BUT the land speeders? you need some i have one for you!

Yeah the Vanguard are overpriced so a command squad would be better for the points. Would probably drop the pf and take more storm shields but thats just me . I like the idea of taking two preds and using them as cover because land speeders are soft and there aernt that many men in my squads either. Sadly the predators wouldnt have much firepower but for 60 points each its not that bad. The pf in the bike squads probably wouldnt be a good idea for me anyway since Id probably think assaulting would be a good idea then . Overall i like the list tedurur.

naaa vindicatorss!!! rule. preds with autocannons suck. and there slow compared to the speeders, and speeders are skimmers so you can still shot at them. need some cc surport, couls put the cs withh all pw.

For the command squad id have see if I should have them for cc or range probably cc though. Probably give most of em lightning claw with ss if I have the points. Although the land speeders could be shot at they would get a cover save which would help for survivability by hiding behind the predators or vindicator. I will have to see if 2 predators or one vindicator is better.

The Vindicator is way out of place in this list, it doesn't synergize at all. You've got 30 Bikes that will be moving fast and getting in your opponents face almost immediately, and then you are planning to take this slow tank and shoot a Large Blast risking it scattering onto your own guys?

If you drop it you can fit in another Typhoon and a couple Meltaguns on the Command Squad.

Well I had a battle against mortem ludentis with this army he was using a mech blood angel army. I was impressed with this army overall but I don't think I need anymore speeders because they are very fragile. The vindicator did okay but wasn't too impressive but I'm gonna try using it tomorrow as well. I found the vindicator didn't fall too far behind although It did go after a squad that deepstriked behind my army. If I don't like it I think I'll try using dual preds instead. I don't know if I need 2 flamer squads but they'll be helpful against horde so I'll keep them for now.

Swap out the speeders for 2 vindicators and a all las predator!

Ha that is a good idea actually. After 2 battles with this army I've found that the speeders just dont cut it since they are very light and fragile. In both the battles the speeders fired for 2ish rounds then blew up without making back their points. I think a few more vindicators would really help . Sadly though I couldnt take that many vindicators and preds because that would be too many hvy. support slots .


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So I took out the speeders and added a vindicator, las pred added a bike chappy and gave captain relic armour. What do you think about the change?

3 tanks, 3 slots???

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i think your spot on. protect the HQ choice as he will be your strong point in cc.plenty of antitank and anti troop fire now! brilliant.

What about: command sqd 4 lightning claws, TH 295pts then you have the ability to kill most 40k charters in cc easily and any tank.
Also i did look at white scar hero and i think your captain(for the points is better).