Can you lash a unit out of coherency?

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**Chuck Norris**

As above, I'm just wondering as since you are bound to keep units in coherency, since the rules for lash do not say you have to keep the enemy unit in coherency, why not lash heavy weapon squads out of coherency so that they have to move back and can't fire their heavy weapons?

Thoughts?

**Kommissar Kel**

No, the unit must follow the movement rules.

also this exact question is on the CSM FAQ:here is the FAQ main page

And the exact question:

Q. Can you use Lash of Submission to move models
around within a unit and re-arrange them? Can models
be moved out of unit coherency? Can a unit be moved
out of combat? If a unit is moved into dangerous
terrain, do they have to test? If jump infantry are
moved, are they assumed to be using their packs or
walking? Can a unit be shoved right off the table, or
into impassable terrain?
A. The move created by this power is executed exactly
like a normal move, except that it’s not slowed by
difficult terrain. It follows that, for example:
• the 2D6" distance rolled is the unit’s maximum
move, as normal, and models in the unit can move up to
that distance or less.
• models cannot be moved out of coherency.
• units cannot be moved out of combat.
• dangerous terrain tests must be taken as
normal.
• jump infantry may choose to move either with
their packs or on foot (moving player’s choice).
• units cannot enter impassable terrain, leave the
table or be moved closer than 1" to enemy models.

**nosferatu1001**

1) It states it is a move. It doesnt need to tell you you cannot move them out of coherency, it has to tell you you CAN as the basic movement rules already prohibit this

2) The FAQ. Aways a good place to check first

**Chuck Norris**

Ok, fun idea while it lasted *stumbles away and cries*