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So here's the link

http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=1108053031

Basically it's saying this is their pilot store in China. Opens July 9th at 10am near XinTianDi. Address is Number 245 MaDang Road, 2nd floor. My guess is it's a mall (the pic is a giveaway there, but I haven't been to XinTianDi for a while).

There seems to be a lot of interest in the responses under the pic. Not sure how many I know (there is a reasonably large Chinese player base) but I hope it means a lot of other players coming out of the woodwork.

So any expats or Chinese nationals reading this I hope you can make it down. I will get there about 1.30 after I finish work. Will be bringing some members of my gaming group and my armies so we can hopefully get some games arranged.

Cool, now I know where to go for my next China job.

You want to go back to Red China Kyoto?

Fantastic!
I'll be there around noon as well. Looks like it's time to ship over my armies.

Unless I'm mistaken, tt's inside the new Xintiandi Mall, just behind the walking street of Xintiandi proper. Not a lot of customer traffic in there yet, but definitely good in terms of location.

Curious to meet the staff.

Wonder what the prices will be like?

I have a feeling that it will be better off going to Zarks for stuff still. But at least they have a presence now so perhaps there will be some in store tournies and stuff. Would love for that kind of thing to be a common occurence.


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Oh and Ratboy just curious if I know you. Our gaming group is always at Zarks, maybe you have heard of us. A lot of foreign competitive gamers in the group.

stuff GW shanghai, GW Hong Kong is whats needed =p

I wonder how much it would cost to have stuff shipped from China. I bet their price point is going to be silly low. Maybe the Aussies can get their GW stuff cheap again.

Why would it be low? We already have a bunch of independent retailers who sell for prices higher than GW.

Shanghai is the future New York....makes sense. I would love to read up on Chinese culture and how it will interact with GW selling there---but I'm too lazy.

Coming to a Dakka near you;

他们提出自己的该死的价格了！

The only reason they're opening a store in Shanghai is to save on there own shipping for forgeworld parts.

Cool. I'll hopefully be in Shanghai for a short stint in August (unless tickets from Sanya to Hongkong is cheaper).

It's going to be nice to be hearing "What army do you play? Have you seen the new grey knights? Do you have glue? Razorsaw? Nametags?" but in chinese instead of swedish

Didnt know Chinese people in China plays table top games. The store probably caters to more foreigners.

Why wouldnt they?

Not part of the culture.

That doesn't mean there isn't a bit of awareness.

You only need see those videos of the students with their 40K cosplay to know that Chinese can bite on it as much as anyone else.

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out of interest, any of you ever go to GW hong kong back in 204/5?

SonsofVulkan wrote:Didnt know Chinese people in China plays table top games. The store probably caters to more foreigners.

When I was there (2007-9) it was just taking off, the players were a mix of ex-pats, Chinese returned from studying overseas (where they got into it) and Chinese who got into 40k from Dawn of War.

At first we were about half foreigners but the Chinese players soon eclipsed us in numbers. Chinese can be just as fanatical about 40k as anyone else (and if you've seen the cosplay videos you know they might be more).

Sounds interesting, I remember a few years back I saw some youtube videos with I think chinese (or tawainese) news covering warhammer

I can see tabletop games kicking off once they see what it's about. The modeling aspect of the hobby, strategy, plus the already established appeal for fantasy and sci fi - all these things will resonate pretty heavy with ages 13 - 30.

I imagine a lot of people getting into it just for the painting.

A lot of Shanghai kids are spoiled rotten, so price shouldn't be much of an issue, especially if it's the type that frequent Xintiandi and Times Square Mall.

Lukus83 - I've only been to Zark once. I'm living in Luwan district and the commute was such a pain that I haven't gone back. I played for awhile at Atelier in Hong Kong in 2007-08. I'll definitely be at the opening... trying to find my old GW staff polo shirt.

It looks like those people, are going to be shanghaied.

...I'm so sorry for that.

For Chinese residents.

In US dollars (converted) what are you paying for GW product? Fairly standard products...
1: Codex
2: Tactical Marine squad
3: Land Raider

Need to see if will be cheaper to get minis from china than Australia

Sorry have only collected nids and GK's so far. A Dread I can get for 320 yuan (49.5 dollars) and a razorback for 240 yuan (37.1 dollars). Looking at the British prices (since that's where I'm from and like to compare to) I can see we pay only a little over RRP. I'm impressed. But I do also receive a discount since I'm a regular local buyer. I guess if you do a large order you could also get a discount.

Not sure what prices will be like for shipped stuff though, and of course the GW could be cheaper or expensive. Will find out and let you know after saturday.

Sorry if this is threadomancy (its on the second page?)

I'm curious if GW has to compromise on what products it sells and displays?

I ask this because I remember when World of Warcraft got a slow "official" start in China because it pictured undead and demons and it went against the sort of stuff their culture department(or something to that effect, it was some sort of censorship committee) wanted displayed to their youth. Blizzard actually had to change some of their undead character options (like exposed bones at the elbows and knees, the awesome face with no jaw, etc etc.) I also think that some of the blood and gore was reduced as well in the game. Some might argue that GW has toned down the more brutal nature of the Warhammer IP over the years to be more appealling to the masses, but I still believe its more gruesome/dark then WoW, which needs to appeal to an even larger audience.

So my question to any Chinese GWers/others in the know, is GW subject to the same rules, or did those rules get abandoned or only apply to video games?

Yeah the front covers of both the Fantasy and 40K Daemons books mightn't go down so well over there.

As far as I'm aware there were no restrictions. All of the stock is imported from the U.K so they go with whatever's on the cover over there.

And the Grand Opening was yesterday. Got to meet Ratboy and a few other new faces as well as a lot of locals. The location is actually really good. There's a large expat community flowing through this area and when they get off the subway to go into the mall you have to walk right past GW. Unfortunately I don't currently possess a camera so no pics but I was impressed. Nothing too grand, just a regular gaming store but with a bit more gaming space than we are used to over here.

So my question to any Chinese GWers/others in the know, is GW subject to the same rules, or did those rules get abandoned or only apply to video games?

GW is definitely subject to these rules, even more so than Blizzard since the army books are, well, books. All published works need to go through a review committee under the General Administration of Press and Publication department, which sits directly under the authority of the CCP Central Propaganda Department, which is under the CCP Politburo Standing Committee. The entire publishing industry in China is essentially state run. If GW wants to import their materials, they could be stuck with a lengthy bureaucratic review period.

Or, they might have to rely on imports via friends suitcases.

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Lukas, did you happen to get the phone number of the store?


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Oh, and all army books carried in the store will be in English for the next year or so.

Formosa wrote:out of interest, any of you ever go to GW hong kong back in 204/5?

About 12 years back Games Workshop had a number of stores in Hong Kong, I want to say 3-4...
Then they started to close them, but held on for years with only one on the island..
It became Fun Adleter and they are still open today

Formosa wrote:
out of interest, any of you ever go to GW hong kong back in 204/5?

I was in HK when GW was open here, it's where I bought most of my stuff. Didn't really play much in store though since I had a gaming group with friends at home. Still remember when they had things like buy 2 get 1 free grand opening sales! Fun Atlier is now my local store, I think it's also the only place with a decent selection of GW product in HK now. I guess that even though we have 7 million people in the city it's only enough to support one store.

Unfortunately I didn't get the store number...but a year or so ago Chris gave me his card. Will PM you his personal number. Should be at the store again some time next week. Will let you know when dates are arranged.