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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Well, like 9, and the rest are sprue swaps or can be combined at best.

Unless you add Landspeeders and Fliers. Plastic Storm Eagle/Fire Raptor would do well.

Thanks for correcting an obvious exaggeration. It made it funnier.

I'm honestly hoping for the next announcements to be the Deimos Predator and the Xiphon. Whats even funnier is that you claim it is an exaggeration.
Deimos Vindicator
Vindicator Laser Destroyer
Sabre Strike Tank
Damocles Command Rhino
Sicaran Omega
Sicaran Arcus
Sicaran Punisher
Arquitor Bombard
Arquitor Grav Flux
Arquitor Spicula
Terrax Drill
Legion Basilisk
Legion Medusa
Fellblade
Falchion
Glaive

Is 16 actually.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Well, like 9, and the rest are sprue swaps or can be combined at best.

Unless you add Landspeeders and Fliers. Plastic Storm Eagle/Fire Raptor would do well.

Thanks for correcting an obvious exaggeration. It made it funnier.

I'm honestly hoping for the next announcements to be the Deimos Predator and the Xiphon. Whats even funnier is that you claim it is an exaggeration.
Deimos Vindicator
Vindicator Laser Destroyer
Sabre Strike Tank
Damocles Command Rhino
Sicaran Omega
Sicaran Arcus
Sicaran Punisher
Arquitor Bombard
Arquitor Grav Flux
Arquitor Spicula
Terrax Drill
Legion Basilisk
Legion Medusa
Fellblade
Falchion
Glaive

Is 16 actually.

The Sicaran and Arquitor share a common hull and the sprues are already designed to accommodate the reverse drive positioning so we’re looking at a single half-sprue each for most of those.
The Damocles is literally just the big dish and a more elaborate top hatch so that’s also a single half sprue extra.
The Vindicator variants… the hull mods are more extensive but are common between the two so if they’re sensible that breaks down into a half sprue for the weapon mount and one each for the main gun.
The Sabre and Terrax would be full new kits though, as would the super-heavies so I don’t think they would be happening soon. Though it would be very cool if we got a squadron set of two Sabres in a box of three full sprues.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

The Sicaran and Arquitor share a common hull and the sprues are already designed to accommodate the reverse drive positioning so we’re looking at a single half-sprue each for most of those.
The Damocles is literally just the big dish and a more elaborate top hatch so that’s also a single half sprue extra.
The Vindicator variants… the hull mods are more extensive but are common between the two so if they’re sensible that breaks down into a half sprue for the weapon mount and one each for the main gun.
The Sabre and Terrax would be full new kits though, as would the super-heavies so I don’t think they would be happening soon. Though it would be very cool if we got a squadron set of two Sabres in a box of three full sprues.

Vindicator and Las Destroyer ought to be a single kit. Only difference is the gun in the mount. Maybe a single full sprue if they add the dozer blade. Add some hatch stuff and the pintle bolter and they could leave out the normal accessory sprue.
Agreed on the Damocles- extra sprue on top of the rhino.
Sicaran variants would either need a reprint of the topside sprue with the replacement turret, or just a half sprue for the new turret as an add-on for the sicaran kit, giving you 2 full turrets and a price bump.
Arquitor is not the same hull as the Sicaran, but would probably be 2 sprues and share the track sprue from the sicaran. Maybe half sprues for the weapon options
Terrax would be like the Drop pod- 5 segments, so 2 duplicated sprues with 2 panels, and a second unique sprue with the fifth panel and the nose and weapon bits. New kit, but also shared with more than just Astartes- Mechanicus and 40K would get a lot of use out of it as well.
Fellblade and Glaive are just straight turret swaps on top of a superheavy body, could even share a kit like the Kratos options, while Falchion is a more complicated upper hull.
Sabre would be a new kit yes, and I expect Javelins and Land Speeders before it.

RazorEdge wrote:
Found this on Faeit 212

No Assault or Breacher or otherweise Close Combat Infantry before Summer.
New Terminators of the Indomitus Pattern which can be used for 40k (option for Crux Terminatus on shoulder pads or without them). Seperate Sprue/Box for Close Combat Weapons
New Terminator Praetor with Indomitus Pattern Armour in Plastic, which comes with parts to show chaos influences and could maybe used as a Chaos Lord in 40k.
New "two Armies" Box Set in August with MkII Power Armour and a complete new close combat Dreadnought Pattern.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2023/02/horus-heresy-rumors-new-boxset-and.html

Take it with Salt...

A new Terminator kit that follows the prevailing HH2 design philosophy of base kit plus upgrade/alternate sprues would make sense. But I'm definitely filing this rumour under "I want to believe"

H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Though I must echo Not Online and drbored in wondering just when the rules for Daemons of the Ruinstorm will be released, since those will be needed to fulfill the model's intended use as an Esoterist.

Give 'em time. There's like 16 more tanks they've got to convert to plastic first!

I know that you're just joking, but Daemons of the Ruinstorm and Cults and Militia are rules. I don't see how the model release schedule affects those.

RazorEdge wrote:Found this on Faeit 212

No Assault or Breacher or otherweise Close Combat Infantry before Summer.
New Terminators of the Indomitus Pattern which can be used for 40k (option for Crux Terminatus on shoulder pads or without them). Seperate Sprue/Box for Close Combat Weapons
New Terminator Praetor with Indomitus Pattern Armour in Plastic, which comes with parts to show chaos influences and could maybe used as a Chaos Lord in 40k.
New "two Armies" Box Set in August with MkII Power Armour and a complete new close combat Dreadnought Pattern.

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2023/02/horus-heresy-rumors-new-boxset-and.html

Take it with Salt...

Yeah, a lot of salt. We've already seen the 40k Loyalist Scum vs Chaos box, and it uses the same old Deathwing Terminators that we've had since, 6th edition? (Help me out here DA players). And CSM already have upscaled Indomitus Pattern Terminators, and a perfectly fine Terminator Chaos Lord kit. I find this rumour kinda iffy.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Though I must echo Not Online and drbored in wondering just when the rules for Daemons of the Ruinstorm will be released, since those will be needed to fulfill the model's intended use as an Esoterist.

Give 'em time. There's like 16 more tanks they've got to convert to plastic first!

I know that you're just joking, but Daemons of the Ruinstorm and Cults and Militia are rules. I don't see how the model release schedule affects those.

The current Rumor/Copium floating around is that there's a "Liber Tratoris" book coming with Daemons, Traitor Assassins, and Militia. Similar Loyalty setups as Liber Imperium's Custodes, Sisters, Solar Aux (Loyal, Loyal Either)

 Mr_Rose wrote:

Another part is, I suspect, that the FW vehicle moulds are wearing out faster than the infantry ones, based on my experience with FW large kits vs infantry kits and the number of times I’ve found chunks of mould buried in undercuts.

From everything other people have shared over the years, the big FW kits seem to have a pretty high casting failure rate, each unsellable casting uses up a significant volume of resin, and the moulds need remaking all the time. As such their profit margins on something like the old Spartan probably weren't up to the standard they wished.

Wonder if we’re getting pre-orders next week. Feels about due.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Wonder if we’re getting pre-orders next week. Feels about due.

Seems likely. We've basically hit the end of 40k releases, and the next big round of AoS stuff isn't until 'spring.'

I guess there's the boxed set of old stuff and special characters, but that's a one and done whenever release.

Voss wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Wonder if we’re getting pre-orders next week. Feels about due.

Seems likely. We've basically hit the end of 40k releases, and the next big round of AoS stuff isn't until 'spring.'

I guess there's the boxed set of old stuff and special characters, but that's a one and done whenever release.

The only known stuff in the HH pipeline we haven't had fully revealed yet is the traitor probably-assassin, right?

Voss wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Wonder if we’re getting pre-orders next week. Feels about due.

Seems likely. We've basically hit the end of 40k releases

We still have a good chunk of Guard stuff(new plastic Commissar, Kasrkin, Cadian Castellan, Rough Riders, and Combat Patrol) to release, plus Kill Teams to get solo releases.

Sky Hunters and Sallies/Word Bearers upgrades.

I can live with that.



Also loads of guff for Kill Team and War Cry other less wise people might get excited over

JETbiiiikess! Two boxes, please!

Did they had the plan to release only two per box or what's the reason they just painted two models?

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Did they had the plan to release only two per box or what's the reason they just painted two models?

They can't afford three

YES! Void war bases, finally. Been waiting for these.
And they're even better than I expected with loose bits for filling out the base. Best 40k release in at least a year.

It will make building out bases for my leviathan dreads much easier, and add some variety to the necromunda bases.

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Still not really sold on the jetbikes. Not sure why they copy-pasted over the third model they originally had in picture.

Oof, must be one of the most expensive preorder weeks for me since ages!

Hmm. Seems this chap is likely to be Thursday’s new model reveal. Whatever he is, he’s the last unconfirmed from the New Years Tease.

Some sort of Sisters of Silence character?

Corrupted Assassin.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Hmm. Seems this chap is likely to be Thursday’s new model reveal. Whatever he is, he’s the last unconfirmed from the New Years Tease.

No snikrot or farsight yet either.

It'll be interesting to see some comparisons to the FW jet bikes. I really liked how they seemed huge in comparison to the riders, the new ones look less so since the Marines are larger and the bike seems slightly smaller.

Dudeface wrote:
No snikrot or farsight yet either.

He was talking about the HH preview video.

I'm expecting the reason that assassin is last is that they'll pair it with at least SOME information on the Daemons of the Ruinstorm rules... or something.

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Did they had the plan to release only two per box or what's the reason they just painted two models?

There exist a third Model with a Chainsword.

RazorEdge wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Did they had the plan to release only two per box or what's the reason they just painted two models?

There exist a third Model with a Chainsword.

If it's alternative pose to the pistol guy aka leader wouldn't make sense to show it there too. 2 squad leaders and 1 regular grunt?

Is there even alternative pose for regular guys or is it just one pose you get for regular grunts? Aka apart from bike's gun and paint job is there any way to separate grunt #1 and grunt #2?

tneva82 wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Did they had the plan to release only two per box or what's the reason they just painted two models?

There exist a third Model with a Chainsword.

If it's alternative pose to the pistol guy aka leader wouldn't make sense to show it there too. 2 squad leaders and 1 regular grunt?

Is there even alternative pose for regular guys or is it just one pose you get for regular grunts? Aka apart from bike's gun and paint job is there any way to separate grunt #1 and grunt #2?

All the models can take volkite and flame pistols, so that doesn't really mark him as a leader.

Ok wasn't aware of that.

In that case particularly lazy photoshop job since the chainsword model has been seen so we know all the things needed to show 3 separate models ARE painted

Not even excuse that there might be only 2 actual bikes painted because combining separate photos to one photo is basic job and something GW commonly does anyway.

There is a third model painted, so the safest assumption is that the designer couldn't find where he'd saved the third asset and had to make deadline...

Or at least there's alternative arms painted After all GW is known to not even assemble models fully so they can swap parts. Why paint multiple models when you can paint one body and alternative arms?

But yeah for some reason or another they didn't bother to have 3 different models in the photo. No biggie. We know they are coming in squads of 3 for 50 euro's. Surprpsingly cheap. If I had use for them might get box or two.